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Nov 18 - Day off due lack of opportunity to excercise

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Nov19 - BPFSL still 222mm/8.74" after PE and a day off
- Around 6 minutes warm up in the shower then JP90 30 sec stretching routine as per usual.
- No extender time due to time constraints
- 3 pumping sets of 8 min to 4.5" (probably would have had another day off except that Teodeles enthusiasm to start pumping inspired me to make the required effort - thanks T!).

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Nov20 - BPEL 213mm/8.38" after workout and edging
- Managed to get in a decent amount of work today and was really surprised to see the above BPEL after 30 minutes edging.
- Workout today as follows
- 12 minutes rice sock warm up followed by JP90 stretching routine with 30 sec stretches (includes helicopters and circle stretches)
- 2 hrs 45min extending at approx 900 to 1000g in 1 set of 60 min followed by 1 set of 45 min and a final set of 60 min. Used additional heat from two rice socks for approx 70% of duration (3 sets of 60 min planned, ran out of time again unfortunately and had to abandon second set due to strap slippage / discomfort).
- 3 pumping sets of 8 min to 4.5" interspersed with extending sets
- BPFSL measured at 224mm / 8.82" post workout (up 2 mm)

Total extender hours: 24h 20min

Looks like I may have finally started to see some length gains even if my girth seems fairly well static or slightly reduced tonight at: MEG = 135mm / 5.31" BEG = 131mm / 5.16" HEG (Upper shaft) = 133 mm /5.24"

All girth and BPEL measurements were taken with a soft cockring on, at the conclusion of 30 minutes edging and about 6 hours after stretching, extended use and pumping was completed. For this reason it may not be 100% comparable with July 4 results which was maximal erection but not after extended edging if I recall well.

Anyway, it's encouraging to finally see some apparent length increase (if it ends up being repeatable at a future measurement date).................

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Nov21 - BPEL still 213mm/8.38" after today's workout and edging
Workout today as follows:
- 12 minutes rice sock warm up followed by JP90 stretching routine with 30 sec stretches (includes helicopters and circle stretches)
- 3 hrs extending at approx 1000g in 3 sets of 60 min. Used additional heat from two rice socks for approx 80% of duration.
- 3 pumping sets of 8 min to 4.5" interspersed with extending sets.
- 30 min edging.
- BPFSL measured at 224mm / 8.82" post workout

Total extender hours: 27h 20min

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Nov22 - Reduced training due travel today
Workout today as follows:
- 12 minutes rice sock warm up followed by JP90 stretching routine with 30 sec stretches (includes helicopters and circle stretches)
- 1 pumping set of 8 min to 4.5"
- 20 min edging.
- BPFSL measured at 224mm / 8.82" post workout

Total extender hours: 27h 20min (no change)

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Nov23 to 25 - No training
- Two sessions of vigorous and sustained sexual activity with my wife each day as "maintenance" activity

Total extender hours: 27h 20min (no change)

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Nov26 - JP90 stretches / Vac ADS only
Workout today as follows:
- 12 mins submerged in hot water as warm up followed by JP90 stretching routine with 30 sec stretches (includes helicopters and circle stretches)
- 1.5 hrs Vac ADS (leg strap) in 3 sets of 30 min.
- Pump and extender not available today.
- One session of vigorous and sustained sexual activity with my wife
- BPFSL measured at 224mm / 8.82" post exercise activity

Total extender hours: 27h 20min (no change)

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Nov27 - JP90 stretches / Vac ADS / pump
Workout today as follows:
- 12 mins submerged in hot water as warm up followed by JP90 stretching routine with 35 sec stretches (includes 20 sec helicopters and 20 x circle stretches per set)
- 3 hrs 30 mins Vac ADS (leg strap) in 3 sessions of 1 hr 10 min.
- 3 x pumping sets of 8 min to 4.5"
- 20 min of edging
- BPFSL measured at 224mm / 8.82" & BPEL 213mm / 8.38" post exercise activity

Total extender hours: 27h 20min (no change)
Total Vac ADS hours: 5h 0min

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Nov28 - BPFSL 226mm/8.89" BPEL 215mm/8.46" after today's workout & edging
Workout today as follows:
- 12 minutes rice sock warm up followed by JP90 stretching routine with 35 sec stretches (includes 20 sec helicopters and 20 circle stretches in each direction per stretch)
- 1 hr extending at approx 1000g Using strap extender.
- 1 hr Vac ADS (leg strap)
- 1 hr 15 min Vac extender at 1200g.
Evening
- 12 mins submerged in hot water as warm up followed by JP90 stretching routine with 35 sec stretches (includes 20 sec helicopters and 20 x circle stretches per set)
- 1 hr 10 min Vac extender at 1200g.
- 3 pumping sets of 8 min to 4.5" with min 5 minute breaks between sets.
- 20 min edging
- BPFSL measured at 226mm / 8.89", BPEL 215mm / 8.46" post workout & edging

Total extender hours: 30hr 45min
Total Vac ADS hours: 6hrs 0min

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Nov29 - Workout today was as follows:
- 1 hour edging
- 12 minutes rice sock warm up followed by JP90 stretching routine with 35 sec stretches (includes 20 sec helicopters and 20 circle stretches in each direction per stretch)
- 2 hrs Vac extender at approx 1200g.
- 8 min air pumping to 4.5".
- 2 hrs Vac extender at approx 1200g.
- 8 min air pumping to 4.5".
- 45 min Vac ADS.
Evening
- 12 mins submerged in hot water as warm up followed by JP90 stretching routine with 35 sec stretches (includes 20 sec helicopters and 20 x circle stretches per set)
- 2 hrs Vac extender at 1200g.
- 1 pumping set of 8 min to 4.5".

- BPFSL measured at 226mm / 8.89", BPEL 215mm / 8.46" post workout & edging

Total extender hours: 36hrs 45min
Total Vac ADS hours: 6hrs 45min

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Nov30 - Workout today was as follows:
- 40 min edging
- 12 minutes rice sock warm up followed by JP90 stretching routine with 35 sec stretches (includes 20 sec helicopters and 20 circle stretches in each direction per stretch)
- 3 hrs Vac extender at approx 1200g.
- 8 min air pumping to 4.5".
- 3 hrs 20 min Vac extender at approx 1200g.

Suspended workout due to discovery of small water blister on urethra end (approx 3mm diameter) presumably due to increasing session time too quickly. Blister has "deflated" without bursting about 6 hours later so will monitor over the next two planned days off. Might consider using Micropore tape in future to try and minimise chance of a further blister and also reduce duration back to 2hrs 30min per session. Any other suggestions gratefully considered.

Total extender hours: 43hrs 5min
Total Vac ADS hours: 6hrs 45min

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I like how you do millimeters. I remember someone else doing that, can't remember who. It helped him stay motivated. He was a big gainer, if I recall.

Just wondering a couple things, Max:
1. Are you using the previously described cock ring method when measuring, these days?
2. Which vac extender are you using? Do you find it comfortable, particularly at the base? If you've had to mod it, could you briefly go over what mods you've employed?

Kudos to you for being able to extend post-pump. I was thinking about doing so with the phallosan, but I don't think I can fit my head in the bell if I do that.

Sorry about the blister, btw. How much vac are you using with the extender? Shouldn't have to be much more than just a light one, with that 1200g tension. For me, I just use the phallosan bell along with a cheap extender, and do maybe maybe 3-4 pumps of the clip-on vacuum, and I'm able to stay in 1.5h. Only reason I stop is due to pain at the base (they need to make these more comfortable somehow).

You might try pumping after completing your 6h of extension, unless this sandwiched approach is something you're particularly interested in experimenting with. It just seems to me that the intense vacuum of the pump may be priming your head for a blister after you strap into the extender. Somehow, I don't think this issue would have occurred independent of the pumping, but I could be wrong. Again, I'm not actually sure how much vac you're using for your extender. Alternatively, just keep the extension sessions to 2h. You can still sandwich in pumps. It would go something like 2h vac extend, 10m pump, 2h extend, 10m pump, 2h extend. Or you could even make the pumps 5m to give you less pump time, if that's what you desire. Worth a shot, imo, and you'd get the same amount of time done. Just done in a different way.

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I like how you do millimeters. I remember someone else doing that, can't remember who. It helped him stay motivated. He was a big gainer, if I recall.

"Thanks for for the detailed reply HH. The millimetres measurement thing is more a function of Australia being a predominately metric using country however I do agree that the high resolution of using mm and then converting to decimalised inches helps with motivation if gaining."

Just wondering a couple things, Max:
1. Are you using the previously described cock ring method when measuring, these days?

"For the BPFSL measurements, no and generally not for these BPEL measurements taken soon after workouts which I sort of think of as unofficial and potentially temporary until proven otherwise by a "proper" standardised measurement which would include girth and most likely use a soft cock ring. The interesting part for me as I more or less decided to target the length goal first is the link between flaccid stretched gains which are quite easy to measure quickly after a workout and the BPEL gains which seem to naturally follow as already observed elsewhere in the forums. It's early days for me with the length gains so still not sure if they will be retained after a couple of days off."

2. Which vac extender are you using? Do you find it comfortable, particularly at the base? If you've had to mod it, could you briefly go over what mods you've employed?

"My "Vac Extender" is a ghetto hybrid of an EBay generic Vac ADS and an Ebay rod extender (similar to SG with strap and base ring or similar design) which is serviceable if not optimal in use. i have basically just quickly fabricated an alternative to the strap support piece that fits the generic extender rods and allows the vac cap to hook on at the wire attachment on the end. It is made of a piece of light wooden joinery timber and is specifically sized to allow for my current length and the cap size I am using now (adds a bit of extra bulk however the rod extender is not exactly stealthy when stretching your flaccid at 220mm in any case)."

"The vac cap and sleeve seems fine and it has the typical included pump to snug the glans up in the cap. I am using the medium cap and sleeve after a bit of experimentation as it is the best fit for my flaccid glans. I did do one session of at least an hour using the largest cap and sleeve after a pumping set and it worked fine however I had some concern about increased possibility of blisters or edema so decided to put this aside until I sure that these don't become a limiting issue."

Kudos to you for being able to extend post-pump. I was thinking about doing so with the phallosan, but I don't think I can fit my head in the bell if I do that.

"This is a bit of a challenge however I can generally go back in the medium cap after 5 to 10 minutes without to much difficulty although I may have to massage some blood out of the glans to make it easier to get the cap fitted without too much air."

Sorry about the blister, btw. How much vac are you using with the extender?

"Without a gauge on the supplied pump the bare minimum vac required to snug up the glans. That said, it is difficult to achieve this min vac so sometimes I will lift the valve end just a fraction to release a little vac if it feels too high. "

Shouldn't have to be much more than just a light one, with that 1200g tension.

"Agreed as as the higher tension definitely increases the vac significantly while the tension is one and this combination of all factors you mentioned is doubtless why I have experienced this blister. With that in mind it is obvious (now) that I have progressed the program a bit too fast and I will need to take the glans conditioning to vac more into account going forward. I have purchased some Micropore tape and might also start using that as some extra blister insurance based on what I have read on the forums subsequently."

For me, I just use the phallosan bell along with a cheap extender, and do maybe maybe 3-4 pumps of the clip-on vacuum, and I'm able to stay in 1.5h.

"I hope that that if I drop the duration back to 2h I will be able to continue with the basic program I am using at present as it seems to be helpful for length gains currently however I am mindful that I don't want to be continuously facing blister issues so will have to wait and see."

Only reason I stop is due to pain at the base (they need to make these more comfortable somehow).

"i have started to find the base uncomfortable for longer sessions and have been thinking about how to address this but not come up with a compelling idea just yet. I do find that changing the extender angle fro straight down to straight up or sitting with it straight out can provide some relief and allow me to finish a planned session duration that I might otherwise have cut short."

You might try pumping after completing your 6h of extension, unless this sandwiched approach is something you're particularly interested in experimenting with.

"I have done this on at least one occasion and based on the new blister issue, might be the best way to go. I was doing the pumping sets in between the extending sets more as a time efficiency thing in concept however it really does not make much difference overall to the duration of the activities. It should certainly help to reduce the stress on the glans during the extender work so will try this going forward or skip some or all of the pumping if extending is still compromised."

It just seems to me that the intense vacuum of the pump may be priming your head for a blister after you strap into the extender. Somehow, I don't think this issue would have occurred independent of the pumping, but I could be wrong. Again, I'm not actually sure how much vac you're using for your extender. Alternatively, just keep the extension sessions to 2h. You can still sandwich in pumps. It would go something like 2h vac extend, 10m pump, 2h extend, 10m pump, 2h extend. Or you could even make the pumps 5m to give you less pump time, if that's what you desire. Worth a shot, imo, and you'd get the same amount of time done. Just done in a different way.

Some of my replies are now included inside the quote box above with speech marks at start and end of each comment to make them easier to spot (still working out how best to work in the forum replies).

I think that you are correct in that the pumping has likely aggravated this blister issue and modifying the approach may well readily overcome it. I feel like the extender work is the main length increase contributed so may well reduce the priority of the pumping for now and see if I can keep the length moving as the main near term focus.

Very grateful for your reply and suggestions as it helps to work through this sort of problem in a rational way with an exchange of ideas (and your own personal experience of course).

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Dec1 - Rest day, BPEL maintained
- Complete rest to help with healing of small water blister on urethra end (approx 3mm diameter) which appears to be healing well.
- Quick check of current length 36 hours after last excercise revealed BPFSL at 224mm / 8.82" (no warm up or JP90 stretches prior) and BPEL at 215mm / 8.46".
- Another rest day planned for today (Dec 2) and will resume workouts tomorrow (Dec 3). I may use extender with strap rather than vac cap tomorrow depending on my confidence in the healing of the urethra end blister.

Total extender hours: 43hrs 5min
Total Vac ADS hours: 6hrs 45min

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Dec2 - Rest day (almost)
- Small water blister on urethra end (approx 3mm diameter) is healing well.
- 30 min edging
- Warm up in shower followed by my current JP90 stretching routine.

Total extender hours: 43hrs 5min
Total Vac ADS hours: 6hrs 45min