PE Squared Progress Log - Water Bottle Goals

[WaterBottleGoals Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WaterBottleGoals]

Tomorrow is the day. I already ~know my MEG is around 4.5", but I haven't measured my BEG so that should be cool.

Also, I'm getting something that looks like stretch marks half an inch below my frenulum? Not sure if they're stretch marks, but it's minor enough to where I'm not worried either way.

Will keep an eye out after my rest day to see if they're still there. Could be due to the relatively rapid girth growth I've had recently or could just be from the vac extender I've been using.

PE Log
* Bumped up my ULIs to 20 seconds per rep. Stopped feeling it as much so adding a little more tension.
* Want to start bottling soon, but will keep going as is for now to see how much expansion I see without bottling/low pressure pumping & then add it in for even more gains.
* I can see why girth is so much more fun than length. I gained over an inch in length (maybe even more) and it looks... nice. But gaining even .25" in girth got me feeling like WOW that's so much bigger.

10/11 - 2 PF. 50 STS, 20 rotates, 50 downwards STS. 4x15s ULI. 2x10 sec squeeze. 50 STS, 20 rotates, 50 downwards STS. 4x15s ULI. 2x10 sec squeeze.
10/12 - 2 PF. 50 STS. 20 rotates, 50 downwards STS. 50 STS, 10 rotates, 50 downwards STS
10/13 - 2 PF. 50 STS, 20 rotates, 50 downwards STS. 4x20s ULI. 2x10 sec squeeze. 50 STS, 20 rotates, 50 downwards STS. 4x20s ULI. 2x10 sec squeeze. Edge
10/14 - rest

Year 1 ADS Time: 778 hours
Total ADS Time: 830 hours
Total pumping/bottling time: 81 hours

[WaterBottleGoals Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WaterBottleGoals]

Measurement Day!

Another month down! Definitely felt like the guy was measurement shy & felt smaller than usual, but maybe it's because usually I measure it because I see how big it is after a workout and these are my real no workout measurements.

BPEL: 6.25" (Previously 6.25")
MEG: 4.5" (Previously 4.375")
BEG: 4.625" (Previously 4.5")
BPFSL: 6.375" (Previously 6.25")

Girth increased! Most of it is due to the corpus spongiosum (bottom of penis chamber) increase, but I'll take it. Would love to see gains that make my entire penis grow in circumference though and not just the bottom.

BPFSL also increased so I'm hoping it's a sign of length gains to come. Not too worried about length gains, but if they come I won't be against it.

Year 1 ADS Time: 778 hours
Total ADS Time: 830 hours
Total pumping/bottling time: 81 hours

Current Workout

• 3 days on, 1 day off
• PF for 2x1 hour sessions every day + manual stretches after each session. 50 Side to Side, 20 helicopters, 50 downwards side to side
• Girth work every other day after each PF session. 4x20s ULI. 2x10s squeeze.

I do feel that maybe I should add some light pumping and see how things go. I also want to do some more PreEjac work, but I always find that harder to prioritize/enjoy compared to PE.

Will add bottling every other day on girth day & see how it goes. In an ideal world I could get .125" in girth every month which would get me to my goal in... 4-6 months depending on how fast gains really come. Hmmmmm.

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Well done, you are to be complimented for your dedication to your goals, and to yourself.

Keep up the good work !

[WaterBottleGoals Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WaterBottleGoals]

Well done, you are to be complimented for your dedication to your goals, and to yourself.

Keep up the good work !

Thank you!

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A Mind Dump on Mechanisms of Growth & Pumping, Clamping, & Stretching

Half baked, but something I've been thinking about as I started pumping once again and am trying out hanging/a BTS ADS position.

For anything to grow, there's a limiting factor. As an example if you're using a stretching device, the amount of stretch you feel in each position is going to be different & some positions will offer no stretch at all.

Now, you may not always have to feel a stretch to have results from an ADS (simply having the penis heal in a slightly extended state might help), but let's say that you've been wearing it for 100s of hours upwards and have seen no growth.

Your ligaments that face upwards might be fully stretched out and your tunica might be more pliable/slowly growing, but if your downwards facing ligaments are super tight (and you feel a very strong stretch when you face the device downwards) then maybe you won't see much gains until you wear it facing down and get over that limiting factor.

I say this because today I tried behind the cheeks hanging/ADS and felt a SUPER strong stretch in the ligament at the top of my penis. And I remember back when I was starting out, I felt the same super strong stretch when I stretched it out forward and I got good results.

The same thing might apply to pumping/clamping. If you're barely seeing any expansion from pumping or clamping you might still get results (for example Bob in this post had super fast gains after seeing no gains for a while) but a lot of the extreme girth gainers mentioned in their logs how much expansion they saw from either pumping, clamping, or some other method.

Now... is this scientific? No. This is just me thinking out loud & hopefully this might help someone eventually.

But it seems to be that maybe for girth gains, if you're not seeing almost any expansion during or after exercises, the limiting factor might be tunica, so then doing tunica stretching exercises to expand the tunica might be smarter?

With all the arguments and ideas about methods of growth (smooth muscle limits, tunica limits, ligament limits, stretching at high tensions, stretching at low tensions, pumping for time, short pumping at high pressures, etc) it seems that all of those CAN WORK as long as they're targeting your "weak link" to growth.

This assumes that diet is on point, you're getting enough sleep, etc, but this might partially explain why some people grow so fast (they luck into the right methods for their limiting factors) and others take forever to grow.

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PE Log
* Added downwards hanging as a test.

10/11 - 2 PF. .5 bottling. 50 STS, 20 rotates. Negative PIs/super tired, so stopped here.
10/12 - 1 PF. 50 STS. 20 rotates
10/13 - 3 PF. ..5 5lb hang. 50 STS, 20 rotates, 50 downwards STS. 4x20s ULI. 2x10 sec squeeze. 20 rotates.
10/14 - rest

Year 1 ADS Time: 778 hours
Total ADS Time: 836 hours
Total pumping/bottling time: 81.5 hours

[Need2blonger Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Need2blonger]

Wow one of the most dedicated and detailed logs I’ve read. Been at it about a month this time around and have been trying to soak up what others are doing. Well done sir and good luck moving forward.

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Wow one of the most dedicated and detailed logs I’ve read. Been at it about a month this time around and have been trying to soak up what others are doing. Well done sir and good luck moving forward.

Thank you! That's one of the reasons I'm doing it. When I started I read through logs of previous high gainers like Burrito, PurpleRain, & others to give motivation & figure out what worked & didn't and hope you & others will benefit from mine also!

PE Log
* Still doing hanging. The ligament is definitely getting more stretched out & it no longer feels as awkward/tense when I do it.
* Tried wearing a penis sheath after pumping/after getting hard. Feels & looks pretty good, but I can't do it for too long because it creates a vacuum at the top which leads to edema like a vac extender. At that point I might as well use a vacuum extender for an extra hour or two rather than wearing the sheath.

10/15 - 1 PF. .5 bottling. .5 downward hang. 4x20s ULI, 2x10 squeeze
10/16 - 3 PF. 50 STS. 20 rotates, 20 rotates
10/17 - 3 PF. ..5 5lb hang. .5 pump. 20 rotates. 6x20s ULI
10/18 - rest

Year 1 ADS Time: 778 hours
Total ADS Time: 843 hours
Total hanging time: 2 hours
Total pumping/bottling time: 82.5 hours

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PE Log - Everybody get aboard the gains train!!!
* Not locking any gains in just yet, but my unit looked especially big these couple days just after a couple stretches and I measured it and it was almost hitting 6.5"! Not an official measurement, but it's not at the end the day or workout so I'm expecting some solid gains soon.

* Girth has been looking much better too. Especially with a new pumping discovery I made.

* I always wondered how guys got so much expansion from pumping when I would do 30 minute or even 1 hour sessions and barely see any. I was using too low of pressure! I tried pumping around 3-4hg on 10/23 and had MASSIVE hang on exit & it felt much bigger when I was doing ULIs after. I tried it again at 4-5mg on 10/25 and got an even bigger hang and incredible look. I didn't measure, but definitely felt like at least .25 or maybe even .5" in temporary girth gains.
I know these are temporary for now, but with all the ULIs I'm doing I'm hoping to see the number go up the next couple months. Plus now I know that I can pump up to 8-12 before sex for that little extra boost if I wanted to have a bit more fun.

Happy progress all around!

10/23 - 2 PF. .5 pumping. .5 downward hang. 50 STS, 20 rotates, 6x20s ULIs. Some red dots on shaft from pumping, but minor and nothing to worry about.
10/24 - 3 PF. 50 STS. 20 rotates, 20 rotates. Measured 6.5" halfway through the day because it looked especially big.
10/25 - 2 PF. .5 pumping. .5 downward hang. 50 STS, 20 rotates, 6x20s ULIs. Looking HUGE out of the pump & length still around 6.5" all day today.
10/26 - Rest

Year 1 ADS Time: 778 hours
Total ADS Time: 850 hours
Total hanging time: 3 hours
Total pumping/bottling time: 83.5 hours

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PE Log
* No major changes. Good progress so far.

10/27 - 3 PF. .5 pumping. .5 downward hang. 20 rotates. 6x20s ULIs
10/28 - 3 PF. 50 STS. 20 rotates
10/29 - 2 PF. .5 pumping. 6x20 ULIs
10/30 - Rest

Year 1 ADS Time: 778 hours
Total ADS Time: 858 hours
Total hanging time: 3.5 hours
Total pumping/bottling time: 84.5 hours

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PE Log - One step forward 2 steps back.
* Got super sick so taking time off. I could still do PE while sick, but my body is already struggling to recover. Don't see a point in adding another stressor on it.

10/31 - 2 PF. .5 pumping. .5 downward hang. 6x20s ULIs
11/1 - 2 PF
11/2 - 11/7 - rest

Year 1 ADS Time: 778 hours
Total ADS Time: 862 hours
Total hanging time: 4 hours
Total pumping/bottling time: 85 hours

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Seeing Gains!

Haven't posted in a while. Was sick for 1.5 months so didn't do PE & visiting family for a couple months so PE is limited.

BUT there's good news.

For the past month or so I've been clamping/using a cockring every other day for 10-15 minutes. While I haven't officially measured, my girth has definitely increased!

Base girth is noticeable bigger & slowly crawling up the shaft. CS expansion is much more noticeable. And best of all I'm loving this routine!

1-5 minute warmup with hot water.
Get hard.
~5 minutes with a cock ring on.
~5 minutes add clamp.
~5 minutes with cock ring still erect.
Then shower and do whatever for 10-15 minutes.

I'm surprised at how quickly such a simple routine led to changes. I'll keep doing this for the next month or so and measure when I get home.

I'd love to do more clamping, but if I'm getting solid results with this little work, why not milk them as much as possible!

5 inch girth this year? I sure hope so!

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Quick update on my routine:

I kept doing the 15 minute clamping sessions as described above basically every other day, with two or three 2 day breaks in between when I felt I needed more rest.

Since I started doing that right around Mid December, I'm approaching the 3 month mark of this exercise.

I haven't done an official measurement yet, but it definitely looks bigger width-wise, and depth wise it's also much bigger than it used to be. I've measured a couple times with the cockring and I hit 4.85" (or maybe even closer to 5") at the base right above the ring.

Considering that my biggest previously was 4.5", even if the CR gives me .25" of expansion, that's still at least .1" if not more of growth. Exciting!

I recently got back home though and changed up the routine a bit.

Updated Routine:

• Added an ADS 3 days on, 1 day off. Need to get used to the vacuum cup again, but goal is to do 2-3 hours per day 3 days on, 1 day off like I used to before. I've only been doing this for a week or so, but I feel like it helps with both length & girth when used in conjuction with the clamping routine.
• Increased my clamping routine. Now what I do is:
  • Warm up with hot water inside a pump cylinder (but not pumped)
  • 15 mins on using a cockring for 5, then clamp + CR, then 5 mins of just CR
  • Rest for 2-3 mins and then warm up again for 2-3 mins
  • Repeat the above process 3 times for a total of 45 minutes under tension
  • Do this every other day & take 2 days rest if needed.

Obviously this routine takes a bit longer, but it's also a lot more fun. I'm watching PIs carefully, looking out for any red dots, but overall I just feel a pleasant pressure and that's it.

Oh, and of course after 3 sessions of clamping it's nice and thick. 5 inches girth (base) seems very achievable this year. 5 inches MSEG is probably unrealistic, but we'll see.

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PE Log
* Starting to count time for clamping also. Each 15 minutes of clamping is actually 5 min cockring, 5 min clamp, 5 min cockring.
* End of May will mark my 2 year PE anniversary so hoping I can eek out some length & girth gains by then. Would be nice to finish the 2 years at 6.5" length & 4.5"+ MSEG.
* Probably won't officially measure at all until then & keep the 2 year measurement a surprise to myself.

3/11 -1 PF, 45 min clamp
3/12 - .5 PF
3/13 -1.5 PF, 45 min clamp

Year 1 ADS Time: 778 hours
Total ADS Time: 865 hours
Total clamping time: 9 hours (Each 15 minutes of clamping is actually 5 min cockring, 5 min clamp, 5 min cockring. )

Total hanging time: 4 hours
Total pumping/bottling time: 85 hours

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PE Log
* Continuing my regular clamping routine. Treating the extender as a bonus, but not as focused on it right now as clamping seems to be giving me both some girth and potentially some length.
* Clamping increasing my base girth like CRAZY. Now when it's clamped it's already over 5". Closer to 5.1' or even 5.25". MSEG still hovering around 4.5" when clamped. Curious if the gains will "climb up" the shaft or if I'll have to experiment with moving my clamping position a little higher to even out the girth gains since I want more than just base girth.
** Based on logs I've read I've heard both theories so I'm going to stick with clamping RIGHT at the base for now and if by end of May (5-6 months of clamping) the girth increase doesn't start "climbing up" the shaft will try with clamping closer to the middle to see how that works.

3/15-3/28
* 9 hours extending
* 3.75 hours clamping

Year 1 ADS Time: 787 hours
Total ADS Time: 865 hours
Total clamping time: 12.75 hours (Each 15 minutes of clamping is actually 5 min cockring, 5 min clamp, 5 min cockring. )

Total hanging time: 4 hours
Total pumping/bottling time: 85 hours