My progress (thenewuser)

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

My routine is pretty much that same, no gains but it takes time. I only count more permanent gains (temporary I don't really consider a gain).

The main issue I am having right now is my cs. I am not really concerned right now about targeting the ccs because they are coming along well, but the cs is not as much. See my inner penis to my mid cs is pretty dang thick with a slight tapering to the mid. From the inner to the upper region the cc taper only some. My base width is 2.0, mid 1.9, mid-upper 1.85, upper 1.75.
But now we look at the girth, base 6.5 (rounded), mid 6 (slightly rounded), mid-upper and above is oval due to the cs not being around the same. Big problem. The main issue is my cs in achieving the round penis.
So, I do my diamond jelgs (modified v-jelg) but they are helping in the cs as I would like. I do clamping engorging the cs. I do my jelgs sideways to target the cs but the only thing really gaining is still the cc's.
I mean literally the side of my penis looking at the cs has a noticeable cut off from the mid-upper where the mid and lower don't. Yes, I still try to target them with some uli's but still.
So, advice on this is recommend. My ears are open to suggestions from those who have overcome this issue.

[popol5169 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close popol5169]

Did you have a look at UV's? Apparently they work very well the CS.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

I have been doing some with a little modifications. By the way, sorry for the late response or posting to all reading. I have found (although it does take time) that clamping is slowly helping the cs where I can apply more pressure by pushing more blood from the inner penis upward.

I am still doing the same routine and surprising have increased my lower shaft where the base is now almost 6.7 (which is not what I wanted) and the mid-lower is 6.3 (again not wanted). I want the upper shaft. So I think what I need to do because the upper region is apparently thicker in fibers is mid clamp from just under the mid and clamp off also just under the glans. We will try that. Given that is said I will post the unwanted stats.

[popol5169 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close popol5169]

Hey I'm exactly looking to gain in the area you didn't want to, what's your precise routine? Sole clamping?
Do you think you gained more in the lower part because it was already girthier than the rest?

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

No.
Here my routine.
Stretches:
(Upper/Lower duration: 2 minutes a piece; Left/Right (bundle) duration: 2 minutes a piece) * 2
The total time is 16 minutes. Yeah, I am going to gain a little more in length but won't tell my wife.

Main Routine:
(Wet-Jelg (applied main pressure on the cs): 50 (stroke time: 5 sec); then diamond-jelg: 30 (stroke time: 7 sec)) * 4
Totals wet-jelgs are 200 and d-jelgs 120.

Clamping: 3 * (10-15 minutes).

I need to stop clamping at the lowest base point and move it up to just the lower region else I am going to keep hitting the lower region where the fibers are not as great as I can see. Also, I know this because I can feel more thickess of the fibers more in the upper region where it is the hardest as well. Also, I may apply a slight hold when I get to the mid region when doing the jelgs.

I would suggest in your case really doing under hand jelging style (standing up) so you can get all of the base even if you need to place on foot up on a chair to extend more penis outward. I think that would help a lot. If you are evenly layered for the tunica, it should be no problem with your girth gains at all and targeting that area should be pretty successful.

[popol5169 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close popol5169]

Thanks, I'm already doing sole overhand jelqs, I've heard that the cs could give me plenty of base girth as well, so these are good directions.
I think if you jelq at a lower erection level you will target more the upper part of the shaft, there should not been enough blood to really work the lower part, but as you jelq more blood will accumulate and the upper part should be more targeted.
Did you ever wonder that doing bundle stretches you usually target more the lower part , so that could be a reason why the tunica seems harder in the upper part.
I have a last question though, do you say doing reverse jelqs and jelqs in a session could be counter productive?

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

Well, with bundle stretches I do grip by the base so it is not affected by it forcing the rotation upward. Slowly it is coming around just as fast as I would like. I am afraid I will have a huge mid-lower region but still not get the compensation with upper region.
I don't know, bro. But, yeah, the tunica is thicker in the upper region making me work for it. Let me see my base started at 6 and now is 6.7 which I just found out today but the upper (between mid-glans) is still 5.6 but was 5.2 when I started. Hmmm, .7 compared to .4. Damn, that sucks on the perfectly even circumferential penis for a goal, LOL.

I don't do reverse jelgs because that would be counter-productive on gains for the upper region. That's would be for lower region girth which I am trying right now to avoid. So, I will have to add in hold times when I reach the upper region.
I am not unhappy with my routine but I do know in order to avoid the lower region I will have to clamp more towards the mid and clamp off just under the glans creating a balloon effect. See what happens. But, bro, anyway, thanks always for your input.
Props.

[popol5169 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close popol5169]

Thanks, actually I was asking about reverse jelqs because these are the ones I've started to do, I would have liked to keep doing my normal sessions (which includes normal jelqs).
I guess I'll focus on reverse ones!
With a bit of luck if you focus on upper girth you will lose some of your base girth gains ( I'm wishing you to lose gains..).
You're right though, playing with the intensity of the grip along the jelq could be a good idea.
Keep us informed on your clamping technique.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

Weekly update.
As I said I was incorporating stretches again (more tunica based) with upper region bundles UPLR 2 minute hold. I actually was experimenting with this for a few weeks but they seem to be now taking effect which is good (damn upper tunica fibers). All things with patience. Also, I have decided given that my length (which I do cement a lot is still that same which was my goal of 8) could use some more which I will only work on some so my wife really doesn't notice (EGO sucks at times).

Yes, the clamping routine is doing good and with the bundles helping to target the upper region. I do apply the base pressure at low to the base as I can get than slowly work the pressure from that upwards so the upper region is the target zone. This can be done by using 1 inch width long ace bandages but you really need to work up to that kind of pressure and prepare your penis for it by doing jelgs first. Beside all that the routine has not changed just how I clamp and the stretches in the beginning of the routine primarily to help with reconstruction of the upper tunica due to multi-layer.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

Updates as usual.
I have revised my routine a little due to an epiphany. Go figure!

I did start a few weeks ago to include bundle stretches with the base gripped targeting upward (don't really need more base girth) which is mainly to target the tunica. Damn tunica, you will submit.

2 x (directional bundle stretches with ligament pull for 2 minute holds).
2 x (50 wet-jelgs underhand 5-7 second stoke (upward))

Then unto new and improved clamping/diamond-jelg technique which has to my surprise has done wonders.
Let me explain in details even with the new clamping devices.
I was thinking one day (last week that is) of something to replace ace wrapping for clamping but it would have to be flexible. Rubber came to mind. But now I could have just bought a ring but that wouldn't do well. Then, lo and behold out of nowhere (and I mean nowhere because I was busy programming in C++ a quest library (and the editor using wxWidgets) for my wife (she does the RPG Maker thing) which I still need to write the lib into a C-conventional dll to say the least) I remembered that I found this heavy duty bicycle handle grip. Surely I wasn't going to use the one of my own bike; heck, I use my bike a lot.
So, I washed it clean and started to cut is down into 1 and 2 inch pieces. I had to try it out of course (wouldn't you?)
Threw some vasoline on the inside to slip on and off starting with the thickest piece cut at 1/2 inch and it clamped beautifully but with some discomfort. I need another thinner piece as a cover then put the 1/2 incher back on. Lo and behold, I could get a good pump in there. It BALLOONED up well.
Next, another idea popped into my head. What if I did a diamond-jelg hold just under the mid to target the upper with for 20 seconds? Again, had to try it out (don't say a word because you would have too; we all know). So after I clamped under the glans, I did this for 10 reps then measured. This is kicker. Before with standard clamping (and intense at that), I was only getting to about 5.75 on the upper region but this time I got to about 5.9ish. OMG! And it didn't feel that intense or uncomfortable at all. I was blown away with the ease of it. I will say that the bundles assisted to a point but this took the cake with a cherry on top to boot.
An old clamping routine transpired and a new one was born.
Now, the new clamping method is 3x with 15 reps of diamond-jelg hold (lower mid range) of 20 seconds.
15x20 = 5 minutes then let the fresh blood get back in with a light rest of about 2-5 minutes.

Yes, I do warm up/down.

Routine again:
1. Warm up(rice sock) 15-20 minutes
2. 2 x (directional bundle stretches with ligament pull for 2 minute holds)
3. 2 x (50 wet-jelgs underhand 5-7 second stoke (upward))
4. 3 x (new clamping method with 15 reps of diamond-jelg hold (lower mid range) of 20 seconds).
5. Light edging for mainly blood flow after clamping (5-10 minutes)
5. Warm down(rice sock again) 15-20 minutes.

There you have it.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

Well, this routine week has passed and gone but all is well. The main bicycle rubber gave way but that's okay because I still have other bands at my dispose replacing it with one of my wife's hair bands which is incredibly resilient in strength for apply at the base. Yet and still because of it I had to apply the ace bandage cuts for extra tension again but the clamping/uli's technique is still on and doing just fine.

I changed up with stretching technique (I still may go back) to 4 lbl hanging with base grip manipulation to target the tunic off and on. I now know way hanging can become somewhat addicting because first there is no WAY you cannot add on flaccid length after measure the flaccid during hanging. OMG is was 9 inches on the pull. That 3/4 of an inch past my max flaccid stretched length. And when I applied the grip at the base to force the tension on the tunica, you really can feel it. I mean I feel it with the other stretching routine but it takes it's toll on the hands and even the arms. This gives them a break allowing the weight to take over instead. Yes, I understand why now. Each have their advantages but right now I will stay with the hanging.
Again, I have discourage any beginner from doing these exercises for at least 6 months of continuous PE with preparation and condition for advanced girth and length exercises. Be safe. A working penis is better than a big one which don't work.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

Same routine. It's been a while (busy).

No gains yet which is expected. Takes good time but worth the effort and dedication. I plan on my week break soon although really haven't decided when simply because I am accustomed to doing PE which we all can relate to.
I have changed up my days on and off to 3/1 then 2/1 for a mid and end week rest which seems to work well.
I am not changing my routine because it has yielded some gains and is effective on targeting the girth. But to all reading this, I worked up to this point slowly increasing intensity unto this routine. So to all beginner's and even intermediaries this is not a routine to dive into yet because each step condition the penis for the next.

To all be safe with PE and gain successfully no matter how long.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

I might as well keep up face. I know 'blah blah blah'. Sono io.

I took a break from jelging and clamping (not including d-jelgs and stretching maintenance) in order to try this exercise out to strictly target cc's to assist the upper region cc area. The cs are doing find so I don't really what to have pressure on that.
So I modified the d-jelg where I only pushes in against the cc on the side applying the pressure from the top and bottom.
It works well (thinking outside the box as normal). I know what you might be saying to yourself, "You are so full of bulls**t".
But no it does work and you can specifically feel in on the cc's only because of using both hands on each side so you can place the fingers on the top and bottom with control on pressure. This will also help increase the width of the penis so that when that woman sees it, she will say to herself or openly, "Damn that is big!" to you.

I am too lazy right now right down the routine but will post back. My stats are pretty much the same except for the upper region width slowly increased for girth but right now I will not call it permanent so no changes in sig I will make.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

I have jotted down a report in a while. For the past few month my girth gains have been stagnate which tells me my routine is no longer valid so I need to revise it somewhat and I did. I will see what gives in a few months with it.
I no longer do the ok style jelging because it really does no good when I already to horse squeezes but I do corpus cavernosum jelgs which takes both hands (kind of like the diamond jelg without hitting the spongiosum keep the pressure on the cavernosum).

I do 20 per set x 15.
I,e: 20 c-jelgs then squeeze 60 sec x 15.

When i apply the pressure I reach past the pelvis as far as I can to get as much of the caverusom as I can so that even the inner penis gets some.

I will post back after a while to see what takes.
I did find one thing interesting even though it is intense, I am getting more blood for my erection after starting this about 3 weeks ago. Kudos for that at least.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

It has been a while but I still am dedicated and doing PE regardless I keep the log updated or not.

My routine is modified a little always perfecting the routine.
I will not include warm up or down because it is a given.

My routine is split in two according to alternate days.
Also, I used a inch cut bicycle grip for a light clamp when jelging.

WetJelg = ((25 rep 3-4 sec) + 30 sec uli hold) * 4;
DJelg[Modified V-Jelg] = (60 rep 5 sec);
Clamp[Clamping] = (15 min);
BT = (10 min);

Alternate_1 = ((WetJelg + DJelg) + (BT)) * 3;
Alternate_2 = ((WetJelg + DJelg + (BT)) * 2) +
((Clamp + BT) * 2);

Sorry for the notations but I am a programmer so using variables is just easier for me.