Women: How much girth is too much?

[seanyboy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close seanyboy]

The girls can handle Shane because he's a limp dick. Yeah, he's huge, but he's soft. If you notice, the dude has to hold up his dick because it's so limp. Girls can handle bigger when it isn't so hard, which is why girls can generally handle dicks bigger than sex toys.

[PNS85 Member Find all posts View Profile Close PNS85]

Yea, you're right that Shane never gets fully hard - I imagine that does play a role on things. He's only 7" in girth - I have an old AVI file of some chick actually measuring him on camera. I tried to find it online but couldn't... is there a way for me to upload it here to show it?

EDIT: I still can't find the video but there is a Shane Diesel dildo made from an exact mold of his penis. Here it is: http://www.sextoysforless.com/shane-diesel-dildo

You can see in the product description that the girth is 7".

BTW, if you want to see a true 8" girth look up Shorty Mac.

In any case, I'm evidently also 7" in girth and I get fully hard unlike Shane Diesel, and none of my 5 partners had any trouble with it, and none of them were porn stars either... my highschool girlfriend was a virgin, my current partner has only been with 4 men before me, etc.

Honestly I feel like for women anything above let's say 4" in girth would be satisfying. Most probably haven't ever experienced anything above 6", so many men and women just assume that it would get uncomfortable or painful past a certain point. "If 5" of girth is very pleasurable, why would I ever want to try 6" or more", etc.

But again, in my experiences no woman has had an issue with my girth at all, and my current partner was quite surprised when I mentioned to her how statistically rare my girth is, and remarked that she could probably handle more pretty easily, without pain or discomfort.

The point, as it's always been, is that penis size (both length and girth) is far more important for men. Women often feel quite indifferent on the subject and will frequently just tell their partner what they think he wants to hear... not because they are lying, but because they simply don't care very much about these things. If a woman genuinely enjoys sex with her boyfriend who is 5" in girth and he asks her a question about it, she's going to say "Well if you're 5" and that's pleasurable for me I could probably handle up to 5.5" but wouldn't want to go above 6". The girth isn't even the point for her. Her partner pleasures her and she wants to confirm this fact for him. To her it's just "Yes, I enjoy sex with you very much", but if she has to phrase it differently for his sake she will, like "Yes, your girth is perfect. I wouldn't want much more than what you have". In my personal experience it's been exactly the same, despite my statistically rare girth. All my partners have told me that it was perfect and very pleasurable, and again, my current girlfriend has stated that she thinks she could take more girth without an issue.

The reason I'm thinking about PE and potentially trying out a bathmate is purely curiosity on my own part. I want to see if it works for myself, and frankly I do have a fetish for seeing a girl get really stretched out by a wide cock or dildo (as long as it's still pleasurable to the girl). I'm not trying to go down this road because I feel inadequate or anything like that. My feeling is that 99% of women wouldn't really care if my girth was 5", 6", 7", or even 7.5" or 8", as long as I know what I'm doing with it. Trying to see if PE could get me more girth would be purely for my own personal curiosity and fetish. However, I don't want to explore PE if I could potentially increase my girth to a point where it would be uncomfortable or painful for most women. As I stated in my original post the biggest turn-on for me during sex is when my partner is extremely aroused and obviously experiencing a lot of pleasure. Yes, I'm curious about PE. Yes, it would turn me on visually to have a thicker dick to stretch out my partner even more than I already do. But I wouldn't want to do any of this at the cost of less pleasure and/or discomfort and pain her, as that's definitely the most important aspect for me, hence why I'm trying to pose this question here to women.

Ladies, is there any truth to my suspicion that girth really doesn't matter that much to you as long as it's not too thin? I'd really like to hear if any of you have actually experienced "too much girth", and if so how much that was. Do you think I could cause discomfort or pain to future partners if I experiment with PE and have any degree of success with girth gains?

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

I must say that at 7.5 x 6 my wife can take all of me, sometimes I have to start slow but sometimes I can go right in. She is not as big on foreplay as some woman are so she just usually wants the dick. She likes to suck it then fuck it. she is 5 foot tall and very petite!

I have on occasion hit it right after pumping and she handled 6.25 to 6.5, I had to go slower then but after a few minutes she was a champ. She was sore after these escapades. The most we have ever had to take off after these bigger rides was a day so I would imagine some gals that are larger down there would be fine. It was tougher for her when we first started dating and I was at 5.5 back then.

[heretohelp Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close heretohelp]

I once bought a sex toy that was very long and very thick. The length was no problem but the girth was too much for me. I can only use it after at least four orgasms and then only at certain angles with lots of lube (I actually tend to prefer my average length, average girth one which I can use straight from the get go). I'm very tall but pretty tight. I think too much girth can make sex very difficult for the majority of women.

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My wife has a toy that is at 6.00 in girth, she will use it once in a while but she prefers the smaller toys. She handles me fine at 6.0 and when I am pumped over that. She says the same as many girls here, that the real thing is easier than the toy. I am happy about that

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My wife has a toy that is at 6.00 in girth, she will use it once in a while but she prefers the smaller toys. She handles me fine at 6.0 and when I am pumped over that. She says the same as many girls here, that the real thing is easier than the toy. I am happy about that

Oh my! Anyone seen my heart meds around here??????

[seanyboy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close seanyboy]

Yea, you're right that Shane never gets fully hard - I imagine that does play a role on things. He's only 7" in girth - I have an old AVI file of some chick actually measuring him on camera. I tried to find it online but couldn't... is there a way for me to upload it here to show it?

EDIT: I still can't find the video but there is a Shane Diesel dildo made from an exact mold of his penis. Here it is: ns novelties*Shane Diesel Dildo | Sex Toys For Less

You can see in the product description that the girth is 7".

BTW, if you want to see a true 8" girth look up Shorty Mac.

In any case, I'm evidently also 7" in girth and I get fully hard unlike Shane Diesel, and none of my 5 partners had any trouble with it, and none of them were porn stars either... my highschool girlfriend was a virgin, my current partner has only been with 4 men before me, etc.

Honestly I feel like for women anything above let's say 4" in girth would be satisfying. Most probably haven't ever experienced anything above 6", so many men and women just assume that it would get uncomfortable or painful past a certain point. "If 5" of girth is very pleasurable, why would I ever want to try 6" or more", etc.

But again, in my experiences no woman has had an issue with my girth at all, and my current partner was quite surprised when I mentioned to her how statistically rare my girth is, and remarked that she could probably handle more pretty easily, without pain or discomfort.

The point, as it's always been, is that penis size (both length and girth) is far more important for men. Women often feel quite indifferent on the subject and will frequently just tell their partner what they think he wants to hear... not because they are lying, but because they simply don't care very much about these things. If a woman genuinely enjoys sex with her boyfriend who is 5" in girth and he asks her a question about it, she's going to say "Well if you're 5" and that's pleasurable for me I could probably handle up to 5.5" but wouldn't want to go above 6". The girth isn't even the point for her. Her partner pleasures her and she wants to confirm this fact for him. To her it's just "Yes, I enjoy sex with you very much", but if she has to phrase it differently for his sake she will, like "Yes, your girth is perfect. I wouldn't want much more than what you have". In my personal experience it's been exactly the same, despite my statistically rare girth. All my partners have told me that it was perfect and very pleasurable, and again, my current girlfriend has stated that she thinks she could take more girth without an issue.

The reason I'm thinking about PE and potentially trying out a bathmate is purely curiosity on my own part. I want to see if it works for myself, and frankly I do have a fetish for seeing a girl get really stretched out by a wide cock or dildo (as long as it's still pleasurable to the girl). I'm not trying to go down this road because I feel inadequate or anything like that. My feeling is that 99% of women wouldn't really care if my girth was 5", 6", 7", or even 7.5" or 8", as long as I know what I'm doing with it. Trying to see if PE could get me more girth would be purely for my own personal curiosity and fetish. However, I don't want to explore PE if I could potentially increase my girth to a point where it would be uncomfortable or painful for most women. As I stated in my original post the biggest turn-on for me during sex is when my partner is extremely aroused and obviously experiencing a lot of pleasure. Yes, I'm curious about PE. Yes, it would turn me on visually to have a thicker dick to stretch out my partner even more than I already do. But I wouldn't want to do any of this at the cost of less pleasure and/or discomfort and pain her, as that's definitely the most important aspect for me, hence why I'm trying to pose this question here to women.

Ladies, is there any truth to my suspicion that girth really doesn't matter that much to you as long as it's not too thin? I'd really like to hear if any of you have actually experienced "too much girth", and if so how much that was. Do you think I could cause discomfort or pain to future partners if I experiment with PE and have any degree of success with girth gains?

Shane looks a whole lot thicker than you. He's either thicker or you're not 7. But then again I'm using visual estimation.

[ThinJohnny Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ThinJohnny]

Based on the amount of space between the OP's middle finger and thumb in 2 of those pictures, I can believe it's 7 inches.

I can just barely get my middle finger and thumb to touch when I put them around a can of Glade air freshener or Edge shaving gel. Both cans are 6.625 inches of girth. And my hands are pretty small. If the pic is legit, then I think it probably is around 7 inches.

PNS85, I would put the video up. Personally, I didn't find your claim of 7 inches of girth as hard to believe as the fact that none of the women you've been with have struggled with it.

I think that's the main reason people were accusing you of lying. I know that was the main point of your post, but it's just hard for people to believe. It's a little easier to believe that the married ones had no issues, but a virgin having no problems with 7 inches of girth seems very hard to imagine.

I think we should ask the women here that question. Ladies, do you think you would have had any trouble with a 7 inch girth penis the first time you had sex?

PNS85, I would post a video to remove doubt about an altered pic.

[heretohelp Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close heretohelp]

Based on the amount of space between the OP's middle finger and thumb in 2 of those pictures, I can believe it's 7 inches.

I can just barely get my middle finger and thumb to touch when I put them around a can of Glade air freshener or Edge shaving gel. Both cans are 6.625 inches of girth. And my hands are pretty small. If the pic is legit, then I think it probably is around 7 inches.

PNS85, I would put the video up. Personally, I didn't find your claim of 7 inches of girth as hard to believe as the fact that none of the women you've been with have struggled with it.

I think that's the main reason people were accusing you of lying. I know that was the main point of your post, but it's just hard for people to believe. It's a little easier to believe that the married ones had no issues, but a virgin having no problems with 7 inches of girth seems very hard to imagine.

I think we should ask the women here that question. Ladies, do you think you would have had any trouble with a 7 inch girth penis the first time you had sex?

PNS85, I would post a video to remove doubt about an altered pic.

It depends, first time as in losing my virginity? Because my partner had an average girth and we could have used the blood and tears as lubricant. First time encountering 7 inch girth? I'd have to take it veeeeeery slow with lots of lube.

[PNS85 Member Find all posts View Profile Close PNS85]

I once bought a sex toy that was very long and very thick. The length was no problem but the girth was too much for me. I can only use it after at least four orgasms and then only at certain angles with lots of lube (I actually tend to prefer my average length, average girth one which I can use straight from the get go). I'm very tall but pretty tight. I think too much girth can make sex very difficult for the majority of women.

Finally a post from a female! Do you happen to know what the exact girth of this toy was/is?

Shane looks a whole lot thicker than you. He's either thicker or you're not 7. But then again I'm using visual estimation.

I know, tell me about it. This is one of the reasons I never bothered to measure my own girth until recently. I never thought it was THAT impressive because most of the big-dick porn stars definitely look bigger than me, especially Shane. When I found out that I'm the same girth as him I found it hard to believe too. Maybe it's his shape or vein-iness that makes him look bigger. Of course camera angles and unusually small women in his scenes help too... In any case, I understand why you would doubt my claims because I certainly don't look like I have the same girth as Shane Diesel. I'll upload a video soon. BTW I'm certain that Shane is 7" in girth, and that's verifiable. As I've said I have an old clip of some girl actually measuring him on camera, plus he has his own dildo made directly from a mold of his penis. You can find this dildo all over the place online and most sex-toy shops will list the dimensions. If the girth is included in the description on any site I've seen that sells his dildo it says 7".

Based on the amount of space between the OP's middle finger and thumb in 2 of those pictures, I can believe it's 7 inches.

I can just barely get my middle finger and thumb to touch when I put them around a can of Glade air freshener or Edge shaving gel. Both cans are 6.625 inches of girth. And my hands are pretty small. If the pic is legit, then I think it probably is around 7 inches.

I must admit, I was holding my dick quite "loosely" and at a generous angle in those pictures. If I actually make it a point to hold it firmly and wrap my fingers directly around it's girth (instead of at an angle), my thumb and middle finger are about half an inch from touching or so. I can squeeze a full erection a little bit to get them to touch.

PNS85, I would put the video up. Personally, I didn't find your claim of 7 inches of girth as hard to believe as the fact that none of the women you've been with have struggled with it.

I think that's the main reason people were accusing you of lying. I know that was the main point of your post, but it's just hard for people to believe. It's a little easier to believe that the married ones had no issues, but a virgin having no problems with 7 inches of girth seems very hard to imagine.

Yes, based on what I've been reading I found it very hard to believe too. Almost everyone says 7" of girth is already too much... yet none of my partners have had any issues to speak of with it. That's why I created this thread to see what other women thought.

PNS85, I would post a video to remove doubt about an altered pic.

Yes, I know you guys all want me to post a video. Again, I need to get a tailor's tape and wait for some poison oak on my thighs to heal before I'm going to do that. I'm sorry that I created this thread during a time when I'm not immediately able to back up my claims with proof.

It depends, first time as in losing my virginity? Because my partner had an average girth and we could have used the blood and tears as lubricant. First time encountering 7 inch girth? I'd have to take it veeeeeery slow with lots of lube.

I've never had to use lube with any of my partners (unless we're using toys), and frankly I've never had to "go REALLY slow at first" like people seem to claim is necessary with a large girth. I mean sure, at first I do go slow enough at first to make sure I'm not causing any pain or discomfort to my partner, but I've never had the feeling of having to gradually inch it in there really carefully while waiting for my partner to adapt to it or anything like that. There have been plenty of times where my partner (any of them) has been aroused enough to relatively easily take all of me with very little foreplay and without going slow too.

I just thought of something that could perhaps be a factor though... I'm not circumcised. I mean that doesn't change how much my 7" girth stretches a woman, but it does play a big role as far as minimizing friction during sex. In other words, if my partner isn't quite aroused or lubed up enough for me, my foreskin can just slide on and off during sex instead of creating an uncomfortable amount of friction. If my partner is wet enough my foreskin just naturally stays off anyway, but perhaps this has something to do with why none of my partners have ever had an issue with my girth...? If a woman isn't fully aroused or lubed up enough for a particularly girthy partner, perhaps it's the friction that causes more pain or discomfort than the actual "stretching".

EDIT: This theory definitely goes hand in hand with the notion that the "real thing" is easier to take than a dildo of the same size. Even a circumcised penis has much more leeway as far as the skin being able to move more than a dildo, presumably causing less friction for the woman. Perhaps an uncircumcised penis just takes this one step further, being even more lenient friction-wise than a circumcised one.

Thoughts?

[heretohelp Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close heretohelp]

I don't know what exact size it is sorry, it seems to be around 6 inches but I confess maths isn't my forte.

[ThinJohnny Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ThinJohnny]

It depends, first time as in losing my virginity? Because my partner had an average girth and we could have used the blood and tears as lubricant. First time encountering 7 inch girth? I'd have to take it veeeeeery slow with lots of lube.

Thanks for responding, heretohelp? Yes, I meant the first time having sex ever.

[MySword Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MySword]

PNS85 having looked at your pic (and without a tape its hard to say of course) but you are indeed very girthy. Comparing to my own albums (and I have pics with tape) its certainly very thick along its whole length (lucky bugger....i am still working to balance my girth out) and perhaps a bit thicker than my base. So i'm 6.1 or so beg so i'd say you would have to be 6.5 the whole way. VERY impressive and super super rare for a natural non PE size.

I have big hands also (part of the reason why i thought it was not very big when i grew up...maybe you had the same issue) and i can't get them around my base but can meg so about 6in girth is the limit. If you have big hands and you can't touch properly than you must be 6.5 or so at least.

I apologise if i doubted you in my earlier post, yours pics show its clearly very fat (and quite long...you really did hit the genetic lottery LOL) and in many ways makes mine look even less impressive girth wise (denny does that to me mostly LOL). I still am very very surprised that at any girth 6.5-7 you had no issues with girls taking it. I'm not saying they wont' take it, but maybe you are better at getting them ready for it than me or something because you say you never use lube (i don't like to use it either) unless with toys and yet none had issues with getting it in let alone discomfort the next day? Strange, esp the virgin.

I have never had a girl 'refuse' to take it or be afraid (in fact when they saw its size, esp thickness, i think it made them want to try it more lol) of it but some have said 'go slow' (esp after the first time....which makes me think it hurt a bit the next day??) its nearly always hard to get it in at first with a new girl (back when i was single...). As you say it could be because i was the thickest they had and they could have gone even bigger but that doesn't seem likely in my gf case for example. Maybe its because i'm cut (and the friction is the major issue at the start) but even if she is super wet and we have a very 'smooth' session she still sometimes has issues the next day on occasion with discomfort and she is used to it. Sometimes she is so wet i know i could go balls deep in one move but she says don't do that because it feels great but can hurt a bit later?? I'm not a woman so no idea but she wouldn't ban me from something she enjoys if it wasn't an issue. She has also told me to not get any thicker with this 'penis exercise thing'!

Put up your vid and astound everyone but if i was you i wouldn't be doing PE for girth or even length. If you have good eq and at that size you hardly have to be here at all....except to make us feel even more insecure!!

[GoingForGold Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GoingForGold]

Doesn't look like 7" at midshaft and it tapers at the tip so that helps with insertion. Also, it may have been worse for the girls than you caught on.

I can have fast-paced sex with my gf and I'm at least 6.5" MEG. She can also take the base that is ~7.25" BEG but has to be very warmed up and with my new length I have to be in her cul-de-sac. Of course she has had years to get used to it but I think any able girl can be taught with the right technique.

P.S: You're not as big as Diesel, no doubt. Doesn't look 8" BPEL neither

[PNS85 Member Find all posts View Profile Close PNS85]

PNS85 having looked at your pic (and without a tape its hard to say of course) but you are indeed very girthy. Comparing to my own albums (and I have pics with tape) its certainly very thick along its whole length (lucky bugger....i am still working to balance my girth out) and perhaps a bit thicker than my base. So i'm 6.1 or so beg so i'd say you would have to be 6.5 the whole way. VERY impressive and super super rare for a natural non PE size.

I have big hands also (part of the reason why i thought it was not very big when i grew up...maybe you had the same issue) and i can't get them around my base but can meg so about 6in girth is the limit. If you have big hands and you can't touch properly than you must be 6.5 or so at least.

Thank you. I'm fairly certain I'm almost exactly 7". Perhaps 6.8 or 6.9, but not 6.5. I'll get a video up soon.

I apologise if i doubted you in my earlier post, yours pics show its clearly very fat (and quite long...you really did hit the genetic lottery LOL) and in many ways makes mine look even less impressive girth wise (denny does that to me mostly LOL). I still am very very surprised that at any girth 6.5-7 you had no issues with girls taking it. I'm not saying they wont' take it, but maybe you are better at getting them ready for it than me or something because you say you never use lube (i don't like to use it either) unless with toys and yet none had issues with getting it in let alone discomfort the next day? Strange, esp the virgin.

The virgin of course had some trouble the first time, but she described it as being no different or worse than what her friends at the time had experienced when losing their virginity (most of them presumably with more average sized penises). In other words, yes it's painful for a girl to lose her virginity, but she didn't seem to think my size made much of a difference in that equation. After the first time she had no trouble at all, and none of my partners have every complained about soreness the next day, again, unless we had a particularly sexually active day - long sessions, multiple times, etc, but that's the same principle as the virginity thing. If you and your partner have a ton of sex in a short period of time you're BOTH going to be sore the next day, regardless of penis size. I don't think my size ever caused any additional next-day soreness for any of my partners.

Put up your vid and astound everyone but if i was you i wouldn't be doing PE for girth or even length. If you have good eq and at that size you hardly have to be here at all....except to make us feel even more insecure!!

Haha. I'm certainly not trying to make anyone feel insecure here. I'm just genuinely curious about why my life experiences don't match up with 99% of the claims regarding girth on the internet. I'm aware that I certainly don't need any PE. However I'm still just very curious to see if I could actually get some gains simply because I find it kinda cool that this stuff is actually possible. I had written off all penis enlargement as nothing but scams and lies long ago, and I only realized very recently that it seems like I might have been wrong. A lot of guys here are claiming very noticeable results with PE, bathmate use, etc.

Really I just want to see it for myself... but again, I don't want to do it if I may cause pain or discomfort to my partners in the future as a result. Giving my partner maximum pleasure (and minimal pain/discomfort) is the most important thing to me, and I wouldn't want to risk losing my ability to do this.

Trust me, if ANY of my partners had EVER made comments about my girth being even mildly uncomfortable I wouldn't even be considering trying out PE right now, but none of them ever said anything to that effect. Why the entire internet seems to contradict my personal experiences in this area I have no idea...

Doesn't look like 7" at midshaft and it tapers at the tip so that helps with insertion. Also, it may have been worse for the girls than you caught on.

I'm not going to continue to debate claims that my girth isn't what I say it is. I will upload a video eventually. Until then just think what you want. I couldn't care less.

Regarding your other comment there, I consider myself to be very in tune with my partner during sex. One of the reasons that one-night-stands have never appealed to me. Whether it's a long-term relationship or just something short-lived I like to genuinely have a deep connection with my partner, and I'm 99.9% sure I'd be able to tell if any of them were experiencing any pain or discomfort. We're not talking about women I hooked up with one night at a bar and never saw again. We're talking about women I actually dated and had a deeper connection with. With my two longest relationships I'm 100% certain that my partners would also have been flat-out honest with me if my girth caused any pain or discomfort. They were both honest when my length caused pain on a few occasions (plus I was obviously able to tell anyway).

As I've stated before, I wholeheartedly focus on the pleasure of my partner during sex. If there is even a mild amount of discomfort I can usually tell.

I can have fast-paced sex with my gf and I'm at least 6.5" MEG. She can also take the base that is ~7.25" BEG but has to be very warmed up and with my new length I have to be in her cul-de-sac. Of course she has had years to get used to it but I think any able girl can be taught with the right technique.

Perhaps that's part of the point. I haven't ever had sex with a "stranger". Only with girls I was either committed to or at least felt a strong emotional connection with. Sex is mostly in the mind so maybe this is why none of my partners have had an issue. Maybe if I hooked up with a random stranger who didn't feel emotionally close to me in any way it would be different and she'd have trouble with my girth. Who knows.