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  • #91
    I just updated the thread. Added

    ''1) Warm up in the shower OR with your own conventional method. (15 minutes)
    2) Pump for 15 minutes. I use the bathmate pump in the shower (with steaming hot water). You can use an air pump.
    3) Proceed to clamping for 10 minutes with a 100% erection. You can use a cable clamp or a small strip of velcro (that you close tightly around the cock).
    4) Hang for 15 minutes.
    5) Warm down (as long as you need)

    This takes a total of 55 minutes, just under an hour.

    You work your CCs and smooth muscle (pumping and clamping). You then work your tunica and ligaments (hanging).

    Such a simple and effective routine. Give it a try. Let me know what you think ''
    Starting stats: October 15th, 2008 - NBPEL: 6.25' EG: 5.00'

    Current stats October 15th, 2009 - (100% erection) NBPEL: 7.20' EG: 5.375'


    Goal: NBPEL: 8' EG: 6' (objective: girth)

    TGC Theory

    A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes but to get into accord with them: they are legitimately what directs his conduct in the world. -Sigmund Freud

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    • #92
      In the past month I've made some substantial gains in girth. In the previous 4-5 months of training I made very little permanent gains and decided to take a 1-2 week break from PE. So I've been thinking about what has been different with my girth training program in the past month.

      1.) Lighter grip
      2.) Slower quality reps
      3.) Stretching of tunica before and during all girth routines.

      Here are some of the things I've noticed.

      1.) Improved recovery time
      2.) More consistant pump (increase in girth during workouts)
      3.) Improved permanent growth

      I've been able to achieve a lot of pump without ever doing any advanced workouts. Just jelqing. This next week I'm going to incorporate 1-2 sessions of advanced workouts and see how that goes.

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      My Hypothesis on Girth Workouts:

      I have a little bit of a theory on girth workouts. This theory covers possibilities of what makes them successful and what causes overwork and damage to your penis.

      As is viewed as the main theory at pegym.com, the smooth muscle tissue relaxes letting blood into the cavernosa. As blood enters the shaft, the smooth muscle presses up against the tunica and constricts the veins leaving the shaft of the penis. If the smooth muscle can relax to a girth greater than the tunica, then you will achieve a very hard erection as the blood vessels will become more constricted.

      Obviously in order to increase the girth of your penis, you must stretch the smooth muscle tissue so that it can expand more when it relaxes. However your tunica must also become more flexible in order to gain girth. If your tunica does not grow, then you won't gain much girth, but you'll be able to maintain rock hard erections for a very long time.

      As I have seen with most girth workout programs, they often do not focus on stretching the tunica before let alone during a girth workout, however a hot wrap is said to be very important. It is my theory that the hot wrap is simply a mechanism to help the tunica relax and become limber. I have not done a single hot wrap in the past month, however I have definitely focused on keeping my tunica well stretched during my workouts. I have experienced a lot of success during this time period.

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      What do I think happens differently depending on whether or not the tunica is well-stretched before a workout?

      In order to make gains in girth, the smooth muscle must expand. However if the tunica is not stretched, then pressure builds in the penis and blood vessels become constricted during a workout. I believe that when the blood vessels become constricted, this causes stress concentrations throughout the penis and can either cause isolated pulls in the smooth muscle or cause blood vessels to burst.

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      What is the solution?

      Stretch the tunica as much as possible, so that you are not forcing blood into your penis. You should only be stretching the smooth muscle and tunica, not forcing blood into your penis to make it expand. This type of exercising should require less conditioning than that of advanced workouts and use of devices, but should improve results.

      Here's a little analogy. Stretch one of your regular muscles, say hamstrings. Now push a knuckle into your hamstring and then stretch again. It probably hurts a lot in that one spot. This is what I think is happening to the smooth muscle when high pressures are used to cause girth expansion in PE workouts. A low pressure workout that focuses on stretching the tunica before stretching the smooth muscle is much less damaging to the penis.

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      This is my most recent workout.

      1.) Basic Stretch from the 90 day program. 2 reps (5-10 seconds each direction)

      2.) Jelqing in the direction of my erection 75%, very slow light grip strokes (10 reps per hand)

      3.) Jelq Stretch 70-90%

      To do 1 rep, do the following...
      -Grab your penis below the glans and pull in the direction of your erection.
      -Starting at the base slowly jelq upwards while you are stretching.
      -Relax the stretch and jelq 1 or 2 times.

      One set involves 5 reps for each hand.
      -Do 3-5 sets. For each subsequent set, increase the intensity at which you stretch with your non-jelq hand.
      -The intensity of stretch is what causes how much additional pump you will gain during this workout.
      -Between sets, I do a light stretch in the direction of my erection while doing kegels for about 30 seconds.
      -Never use a strong grip to jelq. The amount of pump you get is based on how intensely you stretch, not how intensely you jelq. If you are stretching your tunica sufficiently, your smooth muscle tissue will stretch with very little applied force.
      DryJelq
      Senior Member
      Last edited by DryJelq; 10-08-2009, 03:17 PM.
      My Scientific Theory on PE
      https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...ma-theory.html

      Date BPFSL-BPEL-MEG-BEG
      6/09 6.50-6.25-4.8-5.1
      2/10 7.2-6.75-5.2-5.6
      8/10 7.1-6.9
      7/12 7.4-7.0-5.3-5.6
      7/13 7.6-7.2-5.4-5.7
      10/16 7.8-7.3
      4/20 8.25-7.75-5.8-6.2
      3/22 8.5-8.1-5.7-6.0

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      • #93
        how much you gained from this?
        26/04/09

        BPEL 6"
        EG (mid) 4.75"
        EG (base) 5"

        17/12/09

        BPEL 7"
        EG ( mid) 5"
        EG (base) 5.5"

        1st goal 7"x 5.25" DONE
        2nd goal 7.5" x 5.75"

        For Pics see: https://www.pegym.com/forums/success...ics-gains.html

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        • #94
          In the past month I've gained a lot of girth. Previously I was overworking myself for about 4 months. My gains would all get lost due to overwork. I took a 2 week break and began retraining. I gained about 1/4" in the first week overall and then another 1/4" in the following 3 weeks.

          5.25 base EG to 5.75 base EG
          4.75 mid EG to 5.375 Mid EG
          My Scientific Theory on PE
          https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...ma-theory.html

          Date BPFSL-BPEL-MEG-BEG
          6/09 6.50-6.25-4.8-5.1
          2/10 7.2-6.75-5.2-5.6
          8/10 7.1-6.9
          7/12 7.4-7.0-5.3-5.6
          7/13 7.6-7.2-5.4-5.7
          10/16 7.8-7.3
          4/20 8.25-7.75-5.8-6.2
          3/22 8.5-8.1-5.7-6.0

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          • #95
            Thanks for your wonderful post.

            You are very right about that, the tunica must be stretched before any girth exercises are performed.
            Starting stats: October 15th, 2008 - NBPEL: 6.25' EG: 5.00'

            Current stats October 15th, 2009 - (100% erection) NBPEL: 7.20' EG: 5.375'


            Goal: NBPEL: 8' EG: 6' (objective: girth)

            TGC Theory

            A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes but to get into accord with them: they are legitimately what directs his conduct in the world. -Sigmund Freud

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            • #96
              Thanks for the new information gonna add Tunica tug after 1 month after PE, I dont wanna stress with to much excercises the first month..

              Radiohead, can you take a look @ my routines in my journal and see if you see something wrong? I been picking exercises for my beginner program, I get more motivation doing my own than someone elses, but still want someone to tell me to add or remove a exercise/or 2
              Start October 7th 2009:

              Current: BPEL: 6" EG: 4.25
              Short Goal: 7" / 5"
              Main Goal: 8" / 6"

              Shawty's like a melody in my head
              Routine, Thoughts and Progress log
              https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...-real-3-a.html

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Radiohead View Post
                -Warm up
                -Full set of O bends Girth exercise
                -1 set Tunica tug Length exercise
                -30 wet jelqs. OK grip @ 75% erection. Very slow 8 second strokes Girth/length
                -30 V jelqs. 75% erection. Very slow 8 second strokes Girth
                -1 set Slinky bend Girth
                -(optional: basic stretch. Length exercise)
                -Warm down.
                Might it be more beneficial here to do the tunica tug before the full set of o bends?
                Former: 6.30" BPEL, 4.50" MSEG
                Current: 8.25" BPEL, 5.00" MSEG, 5.25" BEG

                Zulu's Climb Up The Measuring Tape

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Zulu View Post
                  Might it be more beneficial here to do the tunica tug before the full set of o bends?
                  Yeah youre right, Im gonna switch it up.
                  Starting stats: October 15th, 2008 - NBPEL: 6.25' EG: 5.00'

                  Current stats October 15th, 2009 - (100% erection) NBPEL: 7.20' EG: 5.375'


                  Goal: NBPEL: 8' EG: 6' (objective: girth)

                  TGC Theory

                  A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes but to get into accord with them: they are legitimately what directs his conduct in the world. -Sigmund Freud

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                  • #99
                    how do you stretch tunica the best way? =P
                    ~My taste is very simpel, I only choose the best~
                    01.10.09 - BPEL 6,9" Girth 4,3"~
                    ~Goal EL 7" Girth 5"~

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                    • Hanging is a good way to stretch your tunica and ligaments.
                      Starting stats: October 15th, 2008 - NBPEL: 6.25' EG: 5.00'

                      Current stats October 15th, 2009 - (100% erection) NBPEL: 7.20' EG: 5.375'


                      Goal: NBPEL: 8' EG: 6' (objective: girth)

                      TGC Theory

                      A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes but to get into accord with them: they are legitimately what directs his conduct in the world. -Sigmund Freud

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                      • New advanced stretch i have been playing arpound with. warm up as usual.
                        Lay down on your bed. pull your knees up. Stretch your cock out slow with the left hand and straight. Reach ypour right hand around your right thigh. Grab just below the glans. Slowly lower your right leg tell you feel the presure on th right logs. Hold for 20 seconds. repeat with the left hand to left thigh.

                        A good long warm up about 20 minutes should be good before doing the advanced stretching exercise.


                        For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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                        • how many days a week is good for this workout given I'm now on andractim and do a lot of warming up throughout the day:

                          Slightly more intense routine :
                          -Warm up
                          -1 set Tunica tug Length exercise
                          -Full set of O bends Girth exercise
                          -30 wet jelqs. OK grip @ 75% erection. Very slow 8 second strokes Girth/length
                          -30 V jelqs. 75% erection. Very slow 8 second strokes Girth
                          -1 set Slinky bend Girth
                          -(optional: basic stretch. Length exercise)
                          -Warm down

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                          • Originally posted by pe2damax View Post
                            how many days a week is good for this workout given I'm now on andractim and do a lot of warming up throughout the day:

                            Slightly more intense routine :
                            -Warm up
                            -1 set Tunica tug Length exercise
                            -Full set of O bends Girth exercise
                            -30 wet jelqs. OK grip @ 75% erection. Very slow 8 second strokes Girth/length
                            -30 V jelqs. 75% erection. Very slow 8 second strokes Girth
                            -1 set Slinky bend Girth
                            -(optional: basic stretch. Length exercise)
                            -Warm down

                            Two days seperated by a 48 to 72 hour rest period. During the rest period you can edge/sex.


                            For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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                            • cool, thanks kp

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