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[popol5169 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close popol5169]

I had a few ideas, but as I try to write them I realize they're not good enough, so all in all I really don't know.

There is one possibility though, and I would love it to be true.
When I'm semi erect, I'm still completely relaxed, pelvic floor , penis as well. As I'm getting closer to a full erection, I 'm more contracted, so maybe if I could relaxed entirely and still grow fully erect, I would reach these kind of girth. I felt once an erection from deep within the inner penis, and I was massive, I measured a whole cm longer (didn't measure girth)! I had also jelqed the day before, so who knows..

Is there any correlation between length and girth in the penis?
If so then yes your explanation seems logical, but then why wouldn't we be all experienceing a girthier semi erect penis?



@Big Yes, a work out has been wonderfully effective when the next day I have a huge semi erect (flaccid may be bigger, but really semi erect it is eye catching, probably around 0.2-3 inches bigger than fully erect).
I'm pretty sure they would translate in erect girth gains if sessions were done this way repeatedly.

[Biscut Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Biscut]

Big Al,

For me yes. I have started adding uli's and some light slinky to my jelq/stretch routine. definately looks much girthier. then morning wood although a 10 on EQ back to thin again. Will time help everything stay girthier? (with A Uli Im 5 1/4 next morning harder but back to 5")

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I had a few ideas, but as I try to write them I realize they're not good enough, so all in all I really don't know.

There is one possibility though, and I would love it to be true.
When I'm semi erect, I'm still completely relaxed, pelvic floor , penis as well. As I'm getting closer to a full erection, I 'm more contracted, so maybe if I could relaxed entirely and still grow fully erect, I would reach these kind of girth. I felt once an erection from deep within the inner penis, and I was massive, I measured a whole cm longer (didn't measure girth)! I had also jelqed the day before, so who knows..

Is there any correlation between length and girth in the penis?
If so then yes your explanation seems logical, but then why wouldn't we be all experienceing a girthier semi erect penis?



@Big Yes, a work out has been wonderfully effective when the next day I have a huge semi erect (flaccid may be bigger, but really semi erect it is eye catching, probably around 0.2-3 inches bigger than fully erect).
I'm pretty sure they would translate in erect girth gains if sessions were done this way repeatedly.

There's likely some correlation with length and girth, though it's not a strict rule.

The issue might be the tunica. Some men have up to 3 tunicae, and they are oriented latitudinally and longitudinally. Perhaps when your penis is fully erect, the longitudinal tunica is stretched to the point to where it constricts the latitudinal tunica.

If you note little give during exercises like squeezes, then prioritizing exercises like them that really stress the tunicae should help you to get greater girth measures when erect.

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Big Al,

For me yes. I have started adding uli's and some light slinky to my jelq/stretch routine. definately looks much girthier. then morning wood although a 10 on EQ back to thin again. Will time help everything stay girthier? (with A Uli Im 5 1/4 next morning harder but back to 5")

Maximizing your EQ and focusing on intense girth exercises will help you to boost your girth. Maintaining a consistent level of high EQ is vital, too. If you go through extreme fluctuations it's going to affect your gains.

[popol5169 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close popol5169]

There's likely some correlation with length and girth, though it's not a strict rule.

The issue might be the tunica. Some men have up to 3 tunicae, and they are oriented latitudinally and longitudinally. Perhaps when your penis is fully erect, the longitudinal tunica is stretched to the point to where it constricts the latitudinal tunica.

If you note little give during exercises like squeezes, then prioritizing exercises like them that really stress the tunicae should help you to get greater girth measures when erect.

How do you think the number of tunica would change something in this regard? I guess most men have 2 layers, so they should also experience their longitudinal layer to compress the other one.

I always enjoyed squeezes of all kinds, but you made me have a different idea, if the longitudinal layer compresses the inner layer, then tunica stretches could help?
But would corpus and inner layer push the longitudinal layer outward = more girth same length, or would the longitudinal layer simply just get longer = same girth more length?

[372kid Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 372kid]

I'm sorry. I meant in regards to my length, not girth..Should have clarified. When I do my girth work I do notice a bit of expansion. It never lasts a very long time though

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How do you think the number of tunica would change something in this regard? I guess most men have 2 layers, so they should also experience their longitudinal layer to compress the other one.

I always enjoyed squeezes of all kinds, but you made me have a different idea, if the longitudinal layer compresses the inner layer, then tunica stretches could help?
But would corpus and inner layer push the longitudinal layer outward = more girth same length, or would the longitudinal layer simply just get longer = same girth more length?

More tunicae might mean a tougher time enlarging, but other variables should be taken into account- like the thickness and strength of each individual tunica. Worrying about things like that might not be necessary- as long as you get accurate feedback from your training so that you can compensate for any imbalances.

To ensure that each element is afforded maximum expansion, you should perform length specific and girth specific movements. That's one of the reasons why the "Jelq Free" routine has been so successful for many trainees- it isolates each aspect of the penis.

Couple that with maximizing your EQ so that you maintain a high and constant level of total expansion and you should be able to effectively stretch both main types of tunicae (and other size-limiting aspects of the penis- like the suspensory ligaments).

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

I'm sorry. I meant in regards to my length, not girth..Should have clarified. When I do my girth work I do notice a bit of expansion. It never lasts a very long time though

How would you describe your EQ?

[372kid Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 372kid]

Its pretty good most times in terms of hardness, probably an 8 most times. It just seems shorter sometimes compared to when it isnt as hard.

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An 8 is good. If you can get it even higher and continue to expand your tunicae with girth exercises (or even using erect bends if the situation proves difficult), you'll increase your girth and ou should note a greater positive discrepancy when comparing your semi-erect to your fully erect girth measurements.

[Eazygeezer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Eazygeezer]

Hi big AL,
just wanted your opinion of the effectiveness of my new program.

I recently completed Jp90 and made gains as in my signature, the problem is I don't want anymore length as the wife can barely take what I have now. So I have decided to try and concentrate mostly on girth.

Day 1, 2, 3
Stretches 5 ways with 30 kegels during each stretch followed by helicopters
50 wet jelqs (2strokes per jelq) followed by 5 mins pumping at -4hg and finishing with 4 x 20 sec Ulis
i then repeat this routine 2 more times.
day 4 - rest
Then repeat the cycle

I plan to try and increase the ulis time by 5 seconds every other week and to ncrease the pumping time by 30 seconds every other week, providing I have no negative pis of course

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Hi big AL,
just wanted your opinion of the effectiveness of my new program.

I recently completed Jp90 and made gains as in my signature, the problem is I don't want anymore length as the wife can barely take what I have now. So I have decided to try and concentrate mostly on girth.

Day 1, 2, 3
Stretches 5 ways with 30 kegels during each stretch followed by helicopters
50 wet jelqs (2strokes per jelq) followed by 5 mins pumping at -4hg and finishing with 4 x 20 sec Ulis
i then repeat this routine 2 more times.
day 4 - rest
Then repeat the cycle

I plan to try and increase the ulis time by 5 seconds every other week and to ncrease the pumping time by 30 seconds every other week, providing I have no negative pis of course

A question first- if you don't want any more length then why would you do any stretches?

Which girth exercise do you feel works better- the wet jelq or the ULI? Do you plan on performing the Stop and Start (or appreciable substitute)?

[Eazygeezer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Eazygeezer]

Hi, thanks for the reply, im Doing the stretches merely to cement the length gains I have already made.

With regard to which exercise I feel works best on girth I didn't get any gains for girth from the jelqs so I have added the ulis to try and maximise girth growth.

My libido is shit at the moment although I still get night wood but nothing in the mornings and I don't have any urge to even masturbate, but, I expect my libido to return over the next few weeks and when I do I will begin stop start edging.

Im also doing porn cold turkey as well as I noticed weaker erections and other porn related issues, been free of it for several weeks now

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Hi, thanks for the reply, im Doing the stretches merely to cement the length gains I have already made.

With regard to which exercise I feel works best on girth I didn't get any gains for girth from the jelqs so I have added the ulis to try and maximise girth growth.

My libido is shit at the moment although I still get night wood but nothing in the mornings and I don't have any urge to even masturbate, but, I expect my libido to return over the next few weeks and when I do I will begin stop start edging.

Im also doing porn cold turkey as well as I noticed weaker erections and other porn related issues, been free of it for several weeks now

Have you read the following article on dealing with porn and its effects?: The Detraining Effect: Understanding and Reversing Negative Habits To Improve Erection Quality and Sexual Confidence: Part 1

To streamline your training and to maximize recovery, you should whittle your length work down. You should also attempt performing the ULI on its own. If you're performing the ULI intensely enough it can act as a length exercise too, so you'll surely maintain your length gains.

Maximize your EQ so that you can pump enough blood into your penis for more girth. When you can get to the point to where you can induce tissue stretching erections, you'll feel how having a high EQ can boost length gains.

[372kid Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 372kid]

Do you think will that help with the discrepancy between my length measurements also?