"From PE to MMO"- Minuteman's Orgasmic log

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Time for another bump. Today i tried something else which came somewhat naturally. Frst i noticed that i can really rise my duration by letting the penis to be totally erceted and then edging, in my case i thing that edging while semi-erect triggers the psychological side of my premature ejaculation.

What I did was this. First of all i sloooowly edged my self to PONR, several times, then at the very point of the PONR i would stop and sloooowly balloon myself, to the next PONR since i was already at the first PONR and letting my self maybe a second or so to calm myself, i rapidly got to next then next then next

At that point my body and my mind slowly but certainly got the hang of the PONR and that first flex, I noted also that that flex can be stopped in a third way. First was kegeling, other was reverse kegeling and the third and the most difficult one was by just stopping. Why is that? It is the hardest since you have to slowly balloon yourself to PONR and stop your self at the very beggining of the flex (in other words the point where muscles PREPARES TO FLEX), so that the nerves send the message to the brain that it was a false alarm. It may sound stupid, but it works try it and see.

But i'm not at the end of today's bump. Since i fugured that out i decided to use some strong kegels and balloon myself trough PONR, it was hard and tense (and very plesurable if i can say so ). Since my precision was good, i held my kegel hard a half of second before the first flex and balloond myself over PONR. The result was that i locked my muscle. The spasms started and it begain to hurt but i held on, but alas my kegel wasn't to strong and for a second i let go and another flex happend (and i never hold the second flex because i don't want to retro...).

Even if i failed, something very interesing happend. As i ejaculated i started to orgasm it was but a half or second LATER then ejaculation but i felt it and my mind and body realized that the ejaculation and orgasm aren't the same. If i had stronger muscles down there that would be my first DO but, i'm not sad Rome wasn't build in an day.

Now a question for the men versed in DO and MMO. Does it hurt when you have DO, i mean does it hurt at the pelvic floor muscles? Also was this a good try at the do or did i got the tings wrong? That is it for now, i will rest my muscles and penis for few days they deserved it.

EDIT: One more question. Do you have spasms during DO? The answer is logical but I have to ask anyway because i don't want to oversee something.

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Well time for something new, at lest for me.

In the past few days in notice that ballooning at the ponr gave me more and more pleasure. Today's session started as usual, but at some point (i don't remember when) i got at the PONR and started edging myself. The really weird thing was that i couldn't go over PONR i somehow was stuck at ponr. I can't even describe the amount of pleasure i felt, it was like my whole body was plugged in electric, with each edge i felt more and more pleasure. I really thought that i would go insane. It was even better than when i orgasm, and i know it wasn't DO or MMO because i didn't kegel at all during first session, and i know it wasn't the usual edgeing since i could never last even a second once that felling took over, and now i was like 15-20 minutes (or maybe more who knows) in that sensation.

I used no kegles, nothing, i was so horny (maybe better word would be enlightened ) i actually started breathing deep and stuff, i was completely taken over by the sensation. I have no idea how long it lasted but i did not ejaculate, which proven to be a very good thing since i remained not horny but like i transcended something. Like some relevation. I know this might sound lame, but i really reached the hights of pleasure that i didn't know that could be possible. Is simply wasn't horny i was enjoying.

Later i tried again and got into the same felling but not much intesity, and at the end of that second session i ejaculated. (something was missing.... but i felt satisfacted)

I know one thing, during edging i tried to be honest to my self more, i remember smiling and twitching, making noises, i even bit my lip really hard(?!). In other words i didn't constrain my reactions i just allowed the sensation to take over. It was great. Also during much of the process i kept my eyes closed and didn't concentrate on my energy i just observed.

I did one more thing later in the second session and that wast to do a reverse kegel while BREATHING IN, and the normal kegel while BREATING OUT. This is also very good since i was almoust leaking pre-cum.

I felt like i discovered chocolate all over again

So did anyone felt something like that?

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This sounds like mmo mm ,you were having rolling orgasms. I like the descripition.

You will find the kegels were unconcious and thus perfectly timed ,rolling with the wave. When this occurs you don't need as much kegel strength.

Of course rolling orgasms feel different to single ones, great isn't it.

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This sounds like mmo mm ,you were having rolling orgasms. I like the descripition.

You will find the kegels were unconcious and thus perfectly timed ,rolling with the wave. When this occurs you don't need as much kegel strength.

Of course rolling orgasms feel different to single ones, great isn't it.

Yeah, feels otherworldly.

Time for another positive update.

Inspired by yesterday's achievement i woke up with an erection and decided to give it a go once more. I edged about 20-30 minutes feeling great but not achieving the feat from yesterday. As i was closing to the PNOR i decided to stop since i could feel the way i felt back then. But that moments where so sweet that i give my self and edge or tow just to recall the feeling, and of course i stepped over PNOR and right into ejaculation. But suddenly i instinctively did a kegel. It really wasn't a hard one it was feeling very natrural. I also clenched my teeth, closed my eyes and bended my toes. After it had passed i knew that it was a clean DO. There where no spasms, no swelling under the balls, no "i can't touch my pennis anymore ". But it began to shrink, and i tried to keep him up but he wasn't interested. So i quickly turned on my PC and played some porn, and he was once again erect, but his maximum EQ was a little lover than before. I also felt no need to continue but not because i couldn't but because i won't. Then i went to toilet to urinate, the urine was clean. And then i was 98% sure it was a DO.

Was it?

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Ok this is all good, glad I linked this thread.

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a little bump.

I just had another DO. But this time a little amount sperm got out (it didn't popped out it just kinda dribbled, flowed...), I could feel tiny very tiny spasms, almost non existent. But my penis was still erected, and got no pains. I noticed that bending my toes really helps. I wanted to continue but i stopped because i think it is a little bit to fast. Being horny doesn't help either but i feel great and it would be a pity to ejaculate now. I think my body is starting to understand that there could be great pleasure and satisfaction without ejaculation. It is really hard to keep my hands of me now, but that can be another sort of exercise, getting used to be horny all day long. I'm really thinking of trying to chain my DOs now but i think i will give it a rest for a few days. A lover part of my stomach feels a little bit fatigued probably because i tensed it during the kegel hold.

EDIT:

I also must add that my senses are a lot sharper (maybe my imagination, but i just drank some juice and it tasted much better than before ) and my back pains and tension in neck are more or less gone.

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It is ok to have a wet orgasm, it can be a distraction to be horny all day.

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It is ok to have a wet orgasm, it can be a distraction to be horny all day.

Yeah i know but last month or so whenever i have a wet orgasm i feel fatigued and somehow depressed. That doesn't mean i will stop ejaculating, but i probably won't do it today. The good side of being horny all day is that you are willing to exercise. The interesting part is that i'm not feeling typically horny, it is much closer to the excitement then to the "I can't think about anything but sex". I do wander off when studying but, I'm doing that regardless of the state I am.

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Ok ,focus as well as you can.

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This morning while edging i decided to try and chain DOs to see what will happen. First one ended up being regular DO, second one was half (a little sperm got out but no spasms after that) and the third was wet normal orgasm+ejaculation. If I took a pause between orgasms they would probably be different but i decide to chain them.

The problem of chaining orgasms at my level is that i'm more concentrated at kegels than i'm concentrated on the orgasm. I also noticed that I is better for me to try things not in the morning but sometimes after lunch (that was the time I experienced my first roling orgasms...), and there fore from now on i will use the mornings just for the exercises:

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Every second day in the morning. (So one day of rest in between)
-50 regular kegles (no hold but a litle bit slower than normal, so that i can feel them not just flex them)
-50 reverse kegles (also no hold but a little bit slower than normal)
-50 synchronized Kegels while Edging or Balooning (when i reach the PONR but didn't finish the sync kegles).

50 Syncronized kegels = breath in+reverse kegel hold then breath out+toes bended+regular kegel hold.
I'm doing kegel holds because i'm making deep breath-ins and breath-outs, it just feels more natural.

I will do the ejaculation part probably on every third day during the "good hours".
That will be a straight to wet orgasm since I been noticing that i try to much to block the ejaculation so some days i should give myself a breather in that department to keep my health.

On every first day during the "good hours" i will try to do the roling orgasms but with no pressure, i noticed that if it doesn't feel right then it will not happen. You just can't force these things.

If i feel fatigue i will modify them. I will probably star them in two days.
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Yesterday i noticed that i can stop my ejaculation (when i'm in the good hours and concentrated) not by doing the regular or reverse kegles, but by just stopping and being very still. I tried that above the toilet sink and the little bit of sperm went down as if i was urinating, i remained hard and close to PONR.

I think that i somehow relaxed those muscles on command. I come to the some sort of conclusion that kegels are there just to propel the sperm, wile the semen release is done by some other muscle or in some other way.

Because my kegels are relaxed before the first spasm but my penis is geting harder and i can feel the sperm going into the canal, but that is only the first wave. The second wave will come only if the pelvic floor muscles are spasming, or should be spasming but are not (kegel hold). That is the way I see it for now. The more I spend the time at PONR (especialy the first one) the more I understand what is going down there.

The biggest mistery for now is how to tell my brain that i want to have more pleasure so that he can let me have rolling orgasms. Closed eyes, relaxed state and allowing to be overtaken by the emotions are for now my only hints.

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I think your posts have great value to guys on the mmo path.

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Today i was bathing an i came to the idea to try a little bit of PE-ing...

I jerked off before and found it good. But now i tried to have multiple DOs. I had two clean DOs and one ejaculation. The thing i noticed is that my muscle control is far better when in hot bath than regular. I found it really easy to fine tune my muscles. I had two DO's that where very close to each other. At least i know what i will doing when the warmer days come My erection was also not better but somehow "finer".

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Last night I did some edgeing/balooning. It was kinda unusually silent night and since it was dark my other senses where of course sharper so i decided to play around a little and see what have i done with my premature ejaculation, and to make some sort of recap or whatever (and i was horny too )

The good stuff is that i can last longer until i reach PONR, before it was a minute or two, maybe if i'm in the zone five. Now i can last ten minutes without going to ponr.
I can of course increase my time dramatically with kegels and other stuff i learned (upr to one hour, but i kinda looses it fun factor.).

Anyway, as it was dark and silent i could feel my muscles better and i decided to slow down my edgeing/balooning dramaticlly in order to now with a bunch of new insights see what is the problem for me. The problem is that when i start feeling like the time i felt during the rolling orgasms i'm already ready to ejaculate. Since i don't want to have a DO since after it just dosn't feel the same, and i don't want to fatigue the kegel muscle. (I mean almost 2DOs per day is a little to much for the beginner like me) i decided to focuse on rolling orgasms wich have as Pegasus told are timed and require much less power. Around some time writing this i remembered that my glans where not dark red and big when i had RO but where somewhat like when you put your hand over it and squeze for some time (smaller and pinkish) but the rest of the penis was fully erected.

As i was edging at PONR (and having a wonderful erection, feeling it in the dark just made me more horny) i put my hand between my anus and my testicles and lightly pressured the point in order to feel when does it flex. Now this might be hard to explain. Any way as I was edgeing i felt waves of "heat" rushing to my face every time i did one edge, and also noticed the very very tiny kegel beeing done (thanks to my hand being down there), at pretty much the same time. The problem with this flex is that it wasn't a flex used to make me cum (the one that I hold to have a DO) but one or two before it.

This tiny flex i think is more or less to blame for my premature ejaculation and in the same time blame for me not being able to achieve rolling orgasms (RO from now on) again. The point of frustration is that i wasn't able to stop it or at least delay it in order to synch it and achive RO, but i could feel that i can. Then i also remembered one thing and that is that during the RO i had i didn't have much precum, while now i was having it in abundance literary to much. It was probably due to that tiny flex.

I also noticed that i maybe be falling in a trap of ROs, because for just a second i feel a little bit frustrated in a same way that i have been frustrated with my premature, and that will get me no where because ROs and many other things in MMO are as much about the MOOD as they are with the TECHNIQUE. And if the mood isn't good i can't possibly bring myself to another RO. I have to assume the same state of mind as i had with my premature or else i wont be able to advance. It is all in the mind. I should edge in hope to reach the RO i should edge because i enjoy it. ROs should be a goal but a consequence of my actions towards enjoyment.

My quest for curing Premature ejaculation was actually a quest for me to get more pleasure out of sexual activities. If i feel this all is becoming just a chore i will probably stop, but for now everything i do brings me pleasure so i will not stop.

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Ok , immerse yourself in the process and the product will take care of itself. Sounds ok.