Confusion with Reverse Kegels

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Re read post 1 in this thread guys .

[imac Retired Moderator Member of the Month Nov 12PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close imac]

No. Your balls lift up because the muscle is contracting, you want the opposite to happen. You're looking to relax that area.

So is it possible that I'm contracting, as you think that I am, but that I still feel like I'm pushing out? I mean I definitely think that if I just pushed a little harder I would urinate. That's why I'm confused that you would think I'm contracting. I've done regular kegels before and definitely feel a contracting then, but not when I'm doing reverse front kegels. Please let me know if I'm missing some thing here. Thanks again.

You would be in the best position to determine if you're about to urinate if you push any harder. The reason I think you're contracting is because the lowering and raising of the testes is controlled by the cremaster muscle, and that contracts and raised the testes up when you contract the pelvic floor muscles, or tense or suck in your abs.

Cremaster muscle

[chuck89gt5.0 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chuck89gt5.0]

Couldn't you just sit on a toilet and try to constantly try to push piss and shit out to reverse kegal?

[watson Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close watson]

Hi guys. Still having confusion with front reverse kegels. while doing front reverse kegels should i be stretching the muscles that lies between my testis and penis. are BC muscles those muscles that lies around the point where penis shaft meets the body. plz clear my confusion.

[MrB8 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close MrB8]

Hi guys. Still having confusion with front reverse kegels. while doing front reverse kegels should i be stretching the muscles that lies between my testis and penis. are BC muscles those muscles that lies around the point where penis shaft meets the body. plz clear my confusion.

A front reverse kegel is like pushing to urinate faster, a back reverse kegel is like pushing to passing gas or defecate.

Relax your pelvic floor and felx your lower abs, the area you are referring to is the tainted area between your testicles and anus.

[Tow Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tow]

I've read everything in the entrancepost and I can isolate all three kegels.
BUT if I do the front reverse more times in a row, I am not sure anymore if it actually stretches. Also most of the time I am not sure if it actually goes back into not-stretched mode. Normal kegels and back reverse are not like that. My assumption would be that the front reverse muscle is the weakest of these three. Am I wrong with these thoughts?

[watson Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close watson]

A front reverse kegel is like pushing to urinate faster, a back reverse kegel is like pushing to passing gas or defecate.

Relax your pelvic floor and felx your lower abs, the area you are referring to is the tainted area between your testicles and anus.

Many thanx to u MrB8. Ur always there in times of need. as u said i gave it a try and while doing it, it felt i was trying to push out the area above testis i.e, from the base of the penis to the half of perineum. im not realy pushing the muscles out just giving it a slight feeling of pushing out. So am i targeting the correct muscles.

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I've read everything in the entrancepost and I can isolate all three kegels.
BUT if I do the front reverse more times in a row, I am not sure anymore if it actually stretches. Also most of the time I am not sure if it actually goes back into not-stretched mode. Normal kegels and back reverse are not like that. My assumption would be that the front reverse muscle is the weakest of these three. Am I wrong with these thoughts?

It is like other stretches , when you have stretched for awhile it is not uncommon for the muscle to loosen up.

[WesleyHF Member Find all posts View Profile Close WesleyHF]

My bc-muscle between my anus and scrotum feels Really Really tight And hard as stone.

1. Is just lightly pushing out (downwards) this bc-muscle the way a reverse kegel of this bc-muscle in Your perineum Should be done (to loosen him up in time)? Because i can do that i only wonder if this is the right way

2. And Should i only use light pressure (because when i use more pressure to push it out it a lot more it seems like i kind of are straining it). Does it Really just need a very lightly push outwards to be effective? (like pushing out a Tiny little bit).

3. I'm feeling a tiny little bit more relaxed after i lightly push It outwards, but the majority of the tension in my perineum Remains sadly. But i guess it just takes a lot of time to stretch it out so Many times it Will be lengthened and won't be tense anymore?

I'm asking because i don't want to Make things more tense by doing it the wrong way.

I very appreciate Every respond.

[EarlyMatt Member Find all posts View Profile Close EarlyMatt]

My bc-muscle between my anus and scrotum feels Really Really tight And hard as stone.

1. Is just lightly pushing out (downwards) this bc-muscle the way a reverse kegel of this bc-muscle in Your perineum Should be done (to loosen him up in time)? Because i can do that i only wonder if this is the right way

2. And Should i only use light pressure (because when i use more pressure to push it out it a lot more it seems like i kind of are straining it). Does it Really just need a very lightly push outwards to be effective? (like pushing out a Tiny little bit).

3. I'm feeling a tiny little bit more relaxed after i lightly push It outwards, but the majority of the tension in my perineum Remains sadly. But i guess it just takes a lot of time to stretch it out so Many times it Will be lengthened and won't be tense anymore?

I'm asking because i don't want to Make things more tense by doing it the wrong way.

I very appreciate Every respond.

I try to answer from my own experiences:

1. Yes, that is the correct area. When starting with RKs you can just push out the whole area. That's good for beginning and getting used to the feeling. You may notice a difference after some time of practicing between the front and the rear part and you will very likely be able to workout those parts seperately by front RK and back RK (poo).

2. I recommend light and soft pressure without force. When starting with RKs you will probably use your abs a lot for pushing out and perhaps even hold your breath. It is tempting to put more pressure on the abs and trying to bulk out the perineum more this way but this doesn't feel very healthy and I don't think it is when too much pressure is used. When you get used to the exercise and do it consistently over time you will notice that you can manage it with using your abs much less and even while breathing regularly. In fact breathing from the diaphragm and filling your belly with a lot of air this way even makes the RK easier and almost like an automatic movement of the pelvic floor with only little extra pushing.

3. It takes time and depends on your peliv floor balance. You will get there with some effort. Just never overdo anything even if it's just stretching. No reason to hurry as this will not accelerate the process.

[Varymar Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Varymar]

I'm sorry to crash the party but as far as i know there is no such thing as front and back kegels, nor reverse versions of front/back. This must be some kind of mental, psychological thing, and this is the only place i've heard of such things. I'd call it broscience.

You can't pee and flex our anus at same time - it will stop your pee, therefore they are eternally connected. And I'm not sure i'd believe anyone claiming they can, despite being open minded. Its like trying to isolate left side and right side of your abs, or the abdominal muscle segments, when in fact its just 1 muscle connecting ribcage and pelvis. There are also no upper/lower abs. There are just abs, obliques and transverse abs.

Funny how thread titled with confusion creates more confusion.

[TheHardFlaccidThatCould Banned Find all posts View Profile Close TheHardFlaccidThatCould]

I don't know if you can fully isolate left or right side abdominals, but you sure as hell can put a lot more emphasis on one side of your abdominals quite easily. There are upper and lower abs, yes the abdominals are one muscle but they are separated by bands that makes them function differently depending if you are using lower or upper body. People who do crunches tend to only develop the upper abdominals where as sprinters will develop stronger lower abs as well. Posture also has a lot to do with this. So while they may be still kegeling the front and back, there could be a much stronger emphasis on the front or back.

Now can someone explain to me how you can isolate the BS(BC) when you can't feel it budge at all doing RKs? I actually feel it protruding when I do regular kegels is the scary part.

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

I don't know if you can fully isolate left or right side abdominals, but you sure as hell can put a lot more emphasis on one side of your abdominals quite easily. There are upper and lower abs, yes the abdominals are one muscle but they are separated by bands that makes them function differently depending if you are using lower or upper body. People who do crunches tend to only develop the upper abdominals where as sprinters will develop stronger lower abs as well. Posture also has a lot to do with this. So while they may be still kegeling the front and back, there could be a much stronger emphasis on the front or back.

Now can someone explain to me how you can isolate the BS(BC) when you can't feel it budge at all doing RKs? I actually feel it protruding when I do regular kegels is the scary part.

For isolating reverse kegels it's just something that takes time and practice, both isolating them from reverse root lock and the abs. I'm doing so much better but still haven't fully isolated them. The bulging thing you won't feel with rk's because it's more a stretch where the kegel is a contraction. Over time when you've built strength and stamina with rk you will feel it though, a lot more prominently. Now when pushing an rk i feel the entire inside of my legs and base of dick swell compared to when i started i could barely feel anything.

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

I'm sorry to crash the party but as far as i know there is no such thing as front and back kegels, nor reverse versions of front/back. This must be some kind of mental, psychological thing, and this is the only place i've heard of such things. I'd call it broscience.

You can't pee and flex our anus at same time - it will stop your pee, therefore they are eternally connected. And I'm not sure i'd believe anyone claiming they can, despite being open minded. Its like trying to isolate left side and right side of your abs, or the abdominal muscle segments, when in fact its just 1 muscle connecting ribcage and pelvis. There are also no upper/lower abs. There are just abs, obliques and transverse abs.

Funny how thread titled with confusion creates more confusion.

Sorry but this is wrong.
You can pee and push out anus at the same time, an example for someone who hasn't done the exercises ( like this guy) is when pushing out a poo and a wee at the same time. Which more often than not happens anyway.
All the muscles can be contracted or pushed out. You can't do a kegel while doing a reverse though if that's what you meant to say.
But no it's not bro science it's exercises that you can do and that do aid in different things. If you want to disregard it as b/s, try doing them for a few weeks then come back and do so.

[TheHardFlaccidThatCould Banned Find all posts View Profile Close TheHardFlaccidThatCould]

For isolating reverse kegels it's just something that takes time and practice, both isolating them from reverse root lock and the abs. I'm doing so much better but still haven't fully isolated them. The bulging thing you won't feel with rk's because it's more a stretch where the kegel is a contraction. Over time when you've built strength and stamina with rk you will feel it though, a lot more prominently. Now when pushing an rk i feel the entire inside of my legs and base of dick swell compared to when i started i could barely feel anything.

But being a reverse of a contraction, it would definitely bulge out some right, in the perineum?
Most people I know who do not have Hard Flaccid can make the motion like they are going to pee (front-reverse kegel) and they will feel their perineum bulge out a little, expanding like a balloon.