Confusion with Reverse Kegels

[Wing nut Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Wing nut]

Possible new way to reverse kegel?

Hi guys, I just wanted to run this past you. I was at my PT the other day and she told me to do "trumpets" everyday. Basically what this is is while standing up, you roll your hand into a fist and blow into it like a trumpet. When I did this, I really felt my pelvic floor expand and stretch. Now I've only been doing this for a couple of days, but I will post in a couple of weeks about progress. Has anyone ever tried this? Any thoughts about this method for reverse kegels? Thanks a lot!!

[Tos Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tos]

Hi everyone.
I'd like to say thanks to every body contributing in this thread, especially iMac and bigmoe. I've a simple question.
The vey long light (moving or not) reverse kegel seems to be the one to benefit the most (and the fastest) people suffering of pre-e (like https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...arantee-5.html and many others curing their pre-e in 2 to 6 weeks !).

But what is your take on penis stretching ? Would a base, or even behind the glans light to strong long stretch every day be able to produce the same effect as rk ? Asking because of this thread https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ive-guide.html.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

There are a variety of stretches guys use the most common being squat variants. Try them out see what suits.

[prisonera Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close prisonera]

Can't do a reverse kegel without flexing my abs slightly, am i doing it wrong ?

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

This is normal and will lessen with practise.

[ChaserHUN Member Find all posts View Profile Close ChaserHUN]

I can't do an RK eihter without flexing my abs a bit. Guess this take practice, also to be able to do a front and back RK sepeatly? Is it just me, or it is a lot harder to hold an RK when you have to your hips? Like during sex? Generally how much time of excercise does it take that IKs go away?

[prisonera Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close prisonera]

I think flexing the abs is normal during RK because you can't just grab your BC muscle with hands and stretch it like other muscle groups. When you flex your abs you actually increase the pressure in your pelvis and that pushes the pelvic floor downwards and you get the stretch. And when im standing i flex my abs less than when im lieing down, i think thats because of the gravitation.

[closed166 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closed166]

Yup, still confused. I can make myself retract into my pelvis and I know that's a regular Kegel. I am still confused on the RK.

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

I always felt like a "reverse kegel" is the ischiocavernous muscle contracting inward which leads to a compression of the corpus cavernosum.
With inward I mean from east and west if the penis would be straight out north looking from above. Or from left and right compressing towards the middle penis line.

I think it's quiet easy to see on the wikipedia page about the muscle.
The wrong labelling and naming in PE circles created this whole confusion imo.

The BC Muscle contraction I think is labelled in PE as a "normal" kegel. The whole REVERSE labelling makes it so confusing. Cause there is no REVERSE action involved at all.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

The reverse is opposite of flexing as in relaxing. Same muscles just causing to unflex.

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

The reverse is opposite of flexing as in relaxing. Same muscles just causing to unflex.

Wouldn't it then be stretching? Relaxing for me is: The muscles do nothing at all and are at rest.

Im not sure if in the lingo of PE a reverse kegel is just relaxing. Its a rather intense movement down there that feels opposed to the normal kegel.
The normal kegel is imo just simply engaging the bulbocavernosus muscle. The reverse is engaging the IC muscle.
Its similar to using triceps and biceps. Engaging the triceps stretches the biceps and vice versa.
Its as if gym trainers would label a triceps-exercise a "reverse biceps" which would create similar confusion as we experience with the reverse kegel.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Kind of, except the kegel flexes all muscles in the Pelvic Floor grouping. Do an extremely slow kegel and feel each of the muscles engage at different points throughout the flex. Then do a slow reverse kegel and feel the same from a relaxation perspective. Reverse Kegels are the unflexing. Try to isolate each segment of the muscles.

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

Yes there is this movement of a whole pelvic floor kegel that feels like it engages the whole area. Its especially the BC muscle that I feel through this engaging.
But it sure doesn't engage the IC muscle. It's almost impossible to engage the BC muscle and IC muscle at the same time.(similar to biceps / triceps)

With the reverse kegel I feel clearly the IC muscle engaging/contracting while the BC muscle and others are streched down(towards the floor so to speak).
I can't stretch the bottom muscles without engaging the IC muscle.

Then again I might not gotten yet what is described as a reverse kegel lol.

Edit: I added a post with a pic to an existing thread about the subject. https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ml#post1310622

[Magik_ Member Find all posts View Profile Close Magik_]

Hi,
the pelvic floor stretches link is down. Anyone has a new one?

Also, I'm having a hard time with FRONT reverse kegels. I can do back reverse kegels and actually feel the muscles around my anus expand outwards. But when I put my hand on the penis muscles I can't get it to move at all. I can feel it contract when doing a normal kegel.

[crisss23 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close crisss23]

[QUOTE=Pegasus;1224240
It is not possible open the link "pelvic floor stretches" in the end of the first page.Why?
Where can I find the same informations?
Thank you