Minuteman's Dry Orgasm Guide

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

In fitness there is a program proven to work called “grease the groove“.

In grease the groove, you want to improve your pull ups. If you can say only do, 5 pulls ups to failure. In GTG say you hang a door frame pull up bar. you do only 2 or 3 with perfect technique every time you walk in the room. By the end of the day you might done 50 or more pull ups with perfect technique, rather thab maybe 10 going to failure. This program was proven effective, but not by building actual muscle, which it can, but the reprogramming neurological pathways and muscle fibers so your muscles become more efficient to do it. It goes back to what you said it takes time to build it and get it. But doing flaccid contractions like a towel raise manner would allow for much more practice of the movement.

Yes this program has some benefits, when initially making your nervous system and your tendons get used to the movements, same can be done with pull up "negatives" (eccentric motion).

The problem is that the pull up with the perfect technique is a resul of a harder training in which your body and yourself try to find the optimal way to pull up.

Not to say that your parallel is wrong in any way.

As to flaccid towel raises, that again requires one to be very proficient in you pelvic floor control, also you are going to do that movement when erect when you actually need it so it is better to practice it (after sufficient conditioning has been made) erect, in my opinion.

Basically there are (at least for now) two known mmo types of orgasms, hard form (style, wave) and soft form. Hard form relies on one manually doing DOs one after another as the urge comes, at some point one becomes so proficient that it is rather easy to do it (pegasus is apt at this form) the other form is having your body automatically contract and preform well timed kegel holds that cause the dry orgasms.

It is called soft and hard because of the intensity. Soft mmo is more like a soft gentle waves of orgasms that cannot rival the hard style in intensity but one does not need to consciously do them. In theory soft and hard style is just one side of the coin because (I believe) that they meet somewhere in the middle. Basically as hard style orgasm become more frequent they decrease in intensity and one becomes so proficient that can trigger it almost unconsciously.

But the main difference is how to trigger it, the hard style is manually triggered, the soft style one must somehow flow into it, it is more like a state.

I have no guide to soft style since it is mostly vague and esoteric, and pretty hard to explain for me.

[SoftMmoNoPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SoftMmoNoPreE]

Yes this program has some benefits, when initially making your nervous system and your tendons get used to the movements, same can be done with pull up "negatives" (eccentric motion).

The problem is that the pull up with the perfect technique is a resul of a harder training in which your body and yourself try to find the optimal way to pull up.

Not to say that your parallel is wrong in any way.

As to flaccid towel raises, that again requires one to be very proficient in you pelvic floor control, also you are going to do that movement when erect when you actually need it so it is better to practice it (after sufficient conditioning has been made) erect, in my opinion.

Basically there are (at least for now) two known mmo types of orgasms, hard form (style, wave) and soft form. Hard form relies on one manually doing DOs one after another as the urge comes, at some point one becomes so proficient that it is rather easy to do it (pegasus is apt at this form) the other form is having your body automatically contract and preform well timed kegel holds that cause the dry orgasms.

It is called soft and hard because of the intensity. Soft mmo is more like a soft gentle waves of orgasms that cannot rival the hard style in intensity but one does not need to consciously do them. In theory soft and hard style is just one side of the coin because (I believe) that they meet somewhere in the middle. Basically as hard style orgasm become more frequent they decrease in intensity and one becomes so proficient that can trigger it almost unconsciously.

But the main difference is how to trigger it, the hard style is manually triggered, the soft style one must somehow flow into it, it is more like a state.

I have no guide to soft style since it is mostly vague and esoteric, and pretty hard to explain for me.

You kegel hold to initiate soft MMO? Or your body produces IKs once you've mentally triggered orgasm. I relax into orgasm. Sometimes a small RK helps. I agree that both styles overlap greatly.

I recommend the books Instant Orgasm and Breathing Ecstasy to learn softMMO since they are how I learned. Awareness of your brain and spinal column are really important. Learn what orgasm feels like in the brain and then try to shape your brain to that state. Anything that feels better is a good learning step. Feel neurons in the spinal column firing information up to the brain and see if you can feel the information going out. What does an ejaculation feel like and what makes it different than orgasm?

[closed158 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closed158]

This is my question. I have been able to decrease the semen expelled during orgasm by kegeling, but my question is those spasm IKS during orgasm... Are those actually supposed to be stopped by the kegels to have a totally dry orgasm. My kegel is stopping the semen and I can regain an erection although some EQ is compromised...

So again.. is the kegel supposed to completely stop those spasms, which in turn stop the ejaculation?

[iwillbeatit Member Find all posts View Profile Close iwillbeatit]

Quick question about MMO:

i read about pressing the pelvic floor with 2 fingers right before the PONR and hold it so u dont ejaculate but u got an oragsm - the sperm goes direct into the bladder
the errection still holds cause u dont ejculate..this is the theory

have anyone done this? can this harm anything?

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Quick question about MMO:

i read about pressing the pelvic floor with 2 fingers right before the PONR and hold it so u dont ejaculate but u got an oragsm - the sperm goes direct into the bladder
the errection still holds cause u dont ejculate..this is the theory

have anyone done this? can this harm anything?

Ejaculating into the bladder will cause loss of rerection in the same way as a normal ejaculation and is not desirable .

The pressure build up from this method can make it dangerous and I do not recommend "magic spot" as an mmo method.

[iwillbeatit Member Find all posts View Profile Close iwillbeatit]

Oh ok, i read about this on some pages.. and i thought i will ask the pros here.
but i dont understand the difference between hold the line with the bc muscle and the finger?
U think i would loose errection? Why i dont loose it if i do MMO (i cant do it just a theory)

So u mean i shoult not try it?

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

If the magic spot essentially fails and you ejaculate into your bladder it is a minor negative as you have ejaculated it will cause loss of erection . However the blowback pressures are higher than in a kegel clamp ( which by the way can have some danger for the untrained) .

MinuteMan has prepared a very detailed training regime which allows safe development of mmo ability . This allows mmo without loss of erection and with low risk .

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If the magic spot essentially fails and you ejaculate into your bladder it is a minor negative as you have ejaculated it will cause loss of erection . However the blowback pressures are higher than in a kegel clamp ( which by the way can have some danger for the untrained) .

MinuteMan has prepared a very detailed training regime which allows safe development of mmo ability . This allows mmo without loss of erection and with low risk .

So i am having this where i lose my erection or if i get it back it is compromised. Are we supposed to actually have zero spasms using the kegel clamp? I think my spasms are weakened as im ejaculating very little, but some of it is in the bladder I believe. Are we supposed to actually stop the spasms with a strong kegel? Meaning my strength and technique is not being used in the right way to fully stop these?

[RushToMMO Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RushToMMO]

I have one question. I'm trying DO for one month more or less. But I think that most of the times I'm having a retrograde ejaculation, since I'm not able to hold the erection after that.

Makes sense that my EQ decreases after these weeks trying this almost everyday in the end of my edge session if my PC muscles are not strong enough to hold it?

Because I feel that my EQ is not that good and I can only associate to that =|

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Have you done the training?

[stormzy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close stormzy]

Hey,

i have got question, this morning i had a wet dream and i managed to execute dry orgasm. It wasn't really dry, few drops came out.

When i pissed into a cup, so i could check whether i had retro ejaculation (into bladder). It was not cloudy at all, there were few little white balls of something, but nothing like cloudy piss.

I was also able to have full erection after that and i was not feeling discomfort.

So i guess the sperm will now reabsorb, because it did not went to the bladder, right?

[RushToMMO Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RushToMMO]

I was doing part of it, but at some point in my edging sessions, I brought myself to the PONR slowly and I reached it(which was not the idea). Then I kegeled really really strong and I think that I have a beginning of orgasm and I could stay hard.
I think that after this day, I was kind of obscessed with the idea and I tried this almost everyday (and until really recently I was not able to always do that)

Thanks for the question Pegasus. Despite of being reading the forum for a while, I just enrolled few days ago =))

[shamwow1 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close shamwow1]

Hello, I have a question.

I made it through to level 2.1 but then took a month long break due to business and lack of energy. Can I start back at the level I was at or should I start from the very beginning? Thanks.

[outthebox Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close outthebox]

Not sure if I should just be starting a new thread for this, but I figure I will post here first.

So I have been doing kegels now for maybe 10 months (on and off), and feel pretty strong at the moment. I followed minuteman's guide at first but then just started doing different exercises, when I remember, in a less structured schedule. I definitely don't practice at this point quite as much as the guide recommends.

A couple months ago I was able to have what I felt was my first dry orgasm. I have done this maybe 10 times since. I get sort of just about on PONR and hold down a kegel similar to what I feel when doing towel lifts. When I do this I usually feel spasms, though they are pretty weak, but it really does take all my attention to hold. No fluid comes out. Once it passes, what usually happens is that on some occasions I remain hard, and on others I go slightly soft. And then if I continue stimulation, I still have some arousal left and it feels much less sensitive then the first round, but still good. It then takes significantly more stimulation to get to the second orgasm, and the build up doesn't feel as good.

I would appreciate your perspectives on what is happening here. My guess is that I am not having is a DO, but just not a clean DO. This guess is supported by the fact that I have noticed a variation in how much arousal I seem to maintain after the first DO, which suggests that I am having varying levels of success. They are good enough to allow me to more or less maintain EQ or return good EQ very fast if it goes a little soft. The more arousal, and longer I take before the first DO, the more aroused I seem to be after the first DO. While the second orgasm is itself strong, I feel much less in the build up to it, compared to the build up to the first DO.

In conclusion, I am very happy with my progress. This gives me so much more flexibility for sex. However, there are still two issues that I experience that I would like to resolve:
1. While the drop off in arousal is nothing like a regular refractory period, I would like to maintain a higher level of arousal and feel more in the build up to the 2nd, 3rd, etc DO.
2. I find that during the first DO, I have almost all my attention on maintaining the kegel hold, which is okay, but it takes away from the experience. I would like to get good enough at this where it feels easy and I can spread out my focus to other sensations aside from the kegel hold.

Any thoughts and ideas about where to go from here are appreciated.

Thanks to all those who have shared information which has been vital to this transformation of my sex life.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

I will post since MM is not on that often these days .

You may not be geting a clean DO so you may be losing a little cum and/or your nervous system may not yet be fully adapted to dry orgasm . The nervous system takes time to get used to Do it can be confused and want to shut erection down as hey that what allways happened when you used yo cum before .

The answer to both your questions is keep training.