Edging For Premature Ejaculation

[MaraiKolasa Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MaraiKolasa]

I just finished my edging session and I must say, that approach like " I'm not doing this to improve myself, not to achieve specified time or another purpose, BUT I'm doing this because it's really fun thing to masturbate for long time" made this session more fun, more relaxed and not aimed to "don't cum" (unfortunately at the end of session I totally forgot about this, have lost control and finally cum).
I will try this next time, maybe it is part of effective equation to cure myself in non stressfull way?

[actionbuddy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close actionbuddy]

Progress is progress... Don't beat yourself up for cumming, dude.

It's great to gain stamina and size from edging, but, you also gotta "keep the pipes cleaned out". Don't worry about that. Just keep on trying to hold back so you get a good edge session going.

A/B

[actionbuddy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close actionbuddy]

I would like to say I'm not claiming all of this is 100% what has to be done, just my own views.
I am always open to constructive critiscism, other views, and anything you think I've missed out.

Hope this helps.

Ammonite, your suggestions and advice about edging are great, and spot on!... Very helpful info!

[ammonite Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ammonite]

I just finished my edging session and I must say, that approach like " I'm not doing this to improve myself, not to achieve specified time or another purpose, BUT I'm doing this because it's really fun thing to masturbate for long time" made this session more fun, more relaxed and not aimed to "don't cum" (unfortunately at the end of session I totally forgot about this, have lost control and finally cum).
I will try this next time, maybe it is part of effective equation to cure myself in non stressfull way?

That interview with the pornstar was really enlightening thanks! It seems that changing our mindset to be more like his could be a large part of the battle. The question is, how do we do this?

Persoanlly I think everyone has to find their own way to some extent, but I will try and post some tips soon, after trying arousal control techniques for a bit. For now, it seems that simply edging in the way described in the OP will help, as by getting into plateau, the mindset becomes less of a problem.

There is no harm in cumming at the end of a good session. If you go in thinking you're not going to cum, and manage to plateau/ enjoy it, its not biggie. The whole point of refraining from ejaculation for this is to remove focus from it. If it happens accidentally, then that's completely different. Its when you make a conscious decsion to ejaculate (too early or during a bad session) that it becomes a problem.

For me personally, ejaculation has always been the worst part of watching porn and masturbating (I've never had sex). Because when I cum, the fun is over. All that excitement and energy will be gone in 3 seconds of ejaculation and some white cum. I've always hated ejaculation. I've heard a lot of people have sex, but refuse to cum at the end, just to keep the sexual tension. I can imagine all the enjoyment of sex is in the fucking, and not cumming. When you cum, you have to get dressed and go do something else.

You could still be focusing on ejaculation, but in a different way. If its something you want to avoid then it could be effecting you in a similar way to performance anxiety does. When you ejaculate at the end of a good session, it feels good and right. Try and do this. Think dogs getting a biscuit reward after they sit or lie or whatever, it'll encourage them to do it again in the future. Also, good doesn't have to mean hours of plateau, just an improvement for you; if you manage to go a minute longer for example.

[MrB8 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close MrB8]

For those of you unconvinced that psychology has an effect on your Pre E, last night I did a little experiment which proves, for me at least, that mine is at least 90% psychological (However, I do have pretty good pelvic floor balance now). ...

Nice writeup ammonite!

You touched on many important aspects of Pre-E and how to overcome it.

I agree with you on the effects of masturbation habits and anxiety.

In my opinion, it is best to not think about orgasm at all, note that your brain doesn't work in opposites, so you don't think about not orgasming as well, focus on anything else, the experience, feelings, sensations, etc.

A good mindset would separate orgasm from edging/masturbation/sex, by focusing on the sensations instead, pay more attention to the journey, make it a more attractive target than the end (orgasm/ejaculation).

All of that is without forgetting the importance of pelvic floor balance, I think of it as learning to drive, you need to have a physical skill and a good mentality/mental abilities as well. They work together.

[sieghfreed Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sieghfreed]

I start join pegym and read quite lot article and doing some beginer step at night and edging in the morning

I read post from 2010 that doing edging can improve our erection quality as well

Do anybody experience this improvement when doing edging?

[ammonite Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ammonite]

Thank you MrB8 for that excellent post!

I particularly like the bit about "focusing on the experience, feelings, sensations". This highlights the importance of enjoying sex/ edging- something people will Pre E will find extremely hard to do obviously. However it is possible, and the sooner you manage to forget about orgasm, the easier it will become.

If anyone reads MM's log, even though he comes at this from a completely different angle, he makes similar to observations to MrB8. It's not about getting rid off the pleasure, it's about controlling it.

Anyway, one exercise I have done so far which might help with this. This is quite an advanced exercise though. It is essentially the experiment I mentioned earlier. What you need to do is find one, and only one picture that arouses you; don't make it too hot, think similar to some of the more explicit ones on the hot girls thread on this site. Don't get anything sexually explicit (porn) as this will defeat the point.

Anyway, edge using your imagination for a little while before hand, maybe 10 minutes or so. Then get this picture up. What you need to do is choose one specific part of the picture to focus on. Once you've chosen that part, resume edging until you either begin to lose control, think of orgasm or lose focus/ interest on that part. Then move onto another part of the picture and repeat. With any luck, this exercise teaches focus on whats In front of you, rather than orgasm.

This article, although for a different purpose, has many good tips to help you change your mindset and just enjoy yourself:
7 Easy Steps to Whole Body Orgasm | Deep Masculine

I start join pegym and read quite lot article and doing some beginer step at night and edging in the morning

I read post from 2010 that doing edging can improve our erection quality as well

Do anybody experience this improvement when doing edging?

Edging for long periods of time, without porn, can improve erection quality.

[sieghfreed Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sieghfreed]

Thx ammonite to confirm it

[ammonite Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ammonite]

I know I should stop messing around with the OP, but the more research I do, and the more expereinces I have, the more stuff I have to add to it. So yeah, I've made another large edit to the OP thanks to some new scientific knowledge I've discovered. Still, goes to show there is always more to learn.

Also, I would defintiely reccomend something along the lines of https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...-response.html in helping you change your mindset while preparing for plateau.

[hoochiNn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hoochiNn]

You are a beast ammonite, big up.

Would ask you some questions:

- Now that you have a balanced pelvic floor, do you have completly none movements on it until you reach orgasm?

- Did you ever experienced headache after your edging session?

[ammonite Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ammonite]

You are a beast ammonite, big up.

Would ask you some questions:

- Now that you have a balanced pelvic floor, do you have completly none movements on it until you reach orgasm?

- Did you ever experienced headache after your edging session?

- For the vast majority of my edging session, there are no pelvic floor movements. The only time it spasms is when I am very close to the PONR and orgasm, or sometimes whilst I am getting an erection (I assume this is to help get more blood into the penis). Occasioanlly, on very long, intesnse pleasure edging sessions, the pelvic floor muscles can get a bit confused and can go into strange spasms exactly like those which happen during ejaculation. MM calls these SIK for synchronous involuntary kegels. but they are an advacned problem.

- From a normal plateau edging session, I have never had a headache. However, while experimenting with some extremely intense whole body orgasm stuff a while back, I did get dizzy and a headache because of the intense pleasure and tension WBO can cause. If you're experiencing pleasure above what you normally do, it can cause headaches.

[ammonite Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ammonite]

Just a quick thought:

Premature ejaculation is perhaps the biggest (ED might be bigger) sexual problem in men. However, the opposite is true for women, as many struggle to get off at all.

We know that men are more likely to masturbate than women during their teen years.

It is believed on the forum that these poor masturbation habits when we were younger is what causes premature ejaculation. The opposite could be true for women, that their lack of experience and almost shame they feel from it could be what causes them to have difficulty to orgasm.

Perhaps we should be telling young women to masturbate quickly and aim for orgasm, and young men should be taught to treat it with respect else they might end up causing themself lots of problems. Then there would be women orgasming after a minute of penetration and men banging away for hours and everyone is happy

I know this is a lot of sterotyping, and that it is much more complicated than this, but this could be more evidence for the theory that you can alter your sexual response by how your masturbate during your teen years (the training effect).

[OneHandedWarrior Member Find all posts View Profile Close OneHandedWarrior]

If awareness and education about masturbation were to become more educational and public it would probably save alot of males from getting Pre E. No idea how society would do this since there's probably no one that'd willingly take on that task. Possibly in a not all too distant future where sex topics is more accepted and less taboo in public.

I have a feeling that we're going to see less and less of the "struggling females" as they're becoming more and more "sexually free"(by the way I'm not trying to come off as sexist) + porn is much more accessible. I don't know though only time will tell.

[sieghfreed Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sieghfreed]

I'm practicing jp 90 days and the guys from that thread recomend that im edge after the training, in your experience, which one better edge right after training or seperate time?

P.s
I usually training jp 90 days at night and edge in the morning

[Brobocop Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Brobocop]

I know this is probably a no brainer for most of you, seeing as how you all seem to be incredibly knowledgable on all PE subjects from what I've seen on the site. Lol. But, how am I supposed to get an erection with no physical or visual stimulation? How do I maintain one with a blank mind? I tried edging before using visual stimulation, and once I got it up, I stopped and tried the blank mind deal. Then I lost my erection due to the blank mind.. If there's something I could do to improve this please let me know. This was honestly a super informative post, thanks for takin the time to write all this man.