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  • #46
    Dec 10, 2020

    15 minute Warm Up
    - JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
    - 300 Dry Jelqs
    - Edged 30 minutes. No release.
    5 Minute
    Warm Down

    NOTES:

    The soreness I felt yesterday was gone! Even after spontaneously edging on my Off Day. So onward with the workout we go!

    Stretches felt good. I haven't been pulling to Max Tension until the last few stretches and circle stretch sets. I usually stop once I feel any stretch of my ligs, though I'm unsure if I'm going too lightly. I do end up eventually getting to max tension on my last sets of circle stretches.

    Jelqs were good! Each rep definitely wasn't as long as 10-15 seconds like I was doing last time, my arm gets too tired from super slow and long reps, it just doesn't seem sustainable and I don't think I'd adhere as well to the routine if I made the reps that long. Though once in a while I'd throw in a long rep like that to change it up, but every rep? No way Jose!

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    Dec 11, 2020

    15 minute Warm Up
    - JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
    - 300 Dry Jelqs
    - Edged 1 Hour. No release.
    5 minute
    Warm Down

    NOTES:

    Still doing lighter stretches, with Max Tension near the end of the JP90 Stretch routine.

    My Jelqs today were more along the 3-5 seconds per rep. And I ended up jelqing with more pressure than I usually do. Will wait to see my PI's tomorrow, if it was too much.

    My edging session came with a lot of experimentation at the edge of PONR. I tried a few Hard Kegels right at the PONR, and a few Reverse Kegels at the PONR also. As well as a few Start, Stops.

    With the Hard Kegels some ended up with a little bit of cum bubbling out.

    The Reverse Kegels most of the time would only hold my cum for a small period of time (and probably created more pressure) as I would realize I was going to pop, I would quickly Hard Kegel to stop most of it from coming out. I only managed to time it right once with a Reverse Kegel and stopped myself from hitting the PONR. I think the Reverse Kegel would work well if I wanted to REALLY shoot my load far as it creates a lot of pressure before it inevitably goes flying!

    I managed a lot better with the Start, Stops. But a few times I stopped too late and would have to Hard Kegel to stop the rest of ejaculate from coming out.

    I think I may have experienced a DO [Dry Orgasm](or at least a glimpse of it) a few times while Hard Kegeling, I get this flooding tingling sensation down from my head past my shoulders to my torso. Though this sensation only lasts a few seconds. It's like of like a Post-Pee Shiver I experience but a just a little more intense.

    Anyways, today's edging session was interesting, I didn't actually reach a full climax but wasn't able to completely hold back my cum. I learned quite a bit about my body and how each Kegel affects me while masturbating and how it effects the PONR.
    BEGIN! October 25, 2020
    BPEL: 6.0625"
    MEG = 4.625"
    BEG = 4.5"

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    • #47
      Dec 12, 2020 - OFF DAY

      To be honest I was busy all day and didn't really pay attention to my PI's, but I know when peeing I didn't notice any turtling or any other negative PI. Pretty sure I had some chub going on in the morning. I'd say my penis is still okay for PI's! Looks like the added Jelq pressure seems okay for now.

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      Dec 13, 2020

      15 minute Warm Up
      - JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
      - 300 Dry Jelqs
      - *ADDED* 30 Dry V-Jelqs (Big time fail!!)
      - Edged 1 Hour. With release.
      15 minute
      Warm Down

      NOTES:


      I ended up going to Max Tension from the start of my Slow-Mo Stretches today. I just feel like I get a good stretch out of doing it this way. I don't ever feel any pain in my ligs, just a GOOD OL' STRETCH!

      Dry Jelqs were again within 3-5 seconds, and most of them were done with the added pressure like I did previous session. With a few long reps (10-15 seconds) thrown in for fun.

      So I decided to FINALLY add V-Jelqs from the JP90 Routine to my workout regimen. And boy did I struggle with this one!

      First of all, I really don't like the mess of Wet Jelqing so I decided to attempt the V-Jelqs DRY. Maybe my fingers aren't that flexible but they already started cramping as I was trying to fit my Dong in between my middle and ring finger. Whenever I attempted to pull to one side or the other, my penis would slip from my V-grip and rotate to the left or to the right and I would end up Jelqing my Corpus Spongiosum as well.

      From what I read it should be attempted standing because you can grip deeper into the pubic bone and get more penis when you're standing. But I have a problem with keeping my Erection up when standing. So I'd constantly have to sit back down and rub it off a bit before I can do my next rep. But that's probably an EQ problem I have to solve separately from the V-Jelq.

      So after a grueling 10 reps that took forever because of my struggle in technique and EQ while standing. I decided f*** it I'm just going to do it sitting, as I keep better erections while sitting.

      I definitely held my erections better, but I was still having more problems than when I do regular OK Jelqs while sitting. Maybe because I'm putting too much pressure on my CC's while V-Jelqing? And when I pull for the stretch I seem to lose some blood too and my Erection Level drops.

      Then, I attempted to put the penis between my index and middle finger instead and it felt a lot better and I felt I could have a stronger grip using these two fingers. I still struggled with keeping the grip only on the CC's, since my penis just loves slipping and rotating so I start gripping the CS also.

      Anyways, V-Jelqs don't seem to like me, and I don't think I like them either lol

      Must do more research.
      StartNow
      Senior Member
      Last edited by StartNow; 12-14-2020, 12:37 AM.
      BEGIN! October 25, 2020
      BPEL: 6.0625"
      MEG = 4.625"
      BEG = 4.5"

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      • #48
        Dec 14, 2020

        25 minute Warm Up
        - JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
        - 300 Dry Jelqs
        - *CHANGED to* 30 Dry ULTIMATE V's (by Rbi99)
        - Edged 1 Hour. With release.
        No
        Warm Down

        NOTES:


        I've reverted back to doing light stretches after reading so many different posts about essentially doing "Less is More". BundleUp's post on the subject of slow stretching at low tension but for longer durations was very well explained and actionable: https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...ml#post1648736

        "So I pull gently until it stops, give it just a little more tension than the stopping point, and hold that tension for 1-5 minutes per stretch" Although I don't actually hold it for 1-5 minutes, I still keep the hold for ~30 seconds as per JP90's Routine.

        I don't want to cause any thickening of my connective tissues on my penis due to activating the defensive mechanism from pulling too hard or intensely. So I'm gonna try it this way and see how it goes! Though I'm not holding the stretch for nearly as long as recommended. Maybe I'll make the duration longer?

        Jelqs were great, still doing it with the added pressure and between 3-5 seconds each.

        So due to yesterdays struggle with regular V-Jelqs I did some more research and came across rbi99's Ultimate V Jelq https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...mate-v-uv.html

        He said it was possible for beginners to use the UV's as long as they were one with less reps and less intensity.

        I definitely like them better than regular V's. But I had trouble doing them at less intensity, from what I've gathered on V-Jelqs in general, they're supposed to target CC's and really expand the glans when you jelq. But I'd only really get a nice expansion if I squeezed my V's hard with higher intensity in the UV's.

        I also still experienced twisting of the penis as I moved up the shaft and would end up jelqing the CS as well.

        Then I came across Aston Martini's post on the same thread who potentially solved the twisting problem: https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...tml#post677932

        So I attempted using my thumb and index finger as the "V" instead and I definitely had more finger strength between the 2 than using any of my other fingers. And it also freed up my other hand because I didn't have to use it to apply pressure on the fingers to jelq. I felt like I had more control over the twisting doing it this way, but I still had a few slips in rotation here and there.

        I still need practice, and am still not quite sure what the correct Erection Level and intensity a beginner like me should be using. Because with less intensity I don't feel the blood move up as well and the glans don't engorge.

        I'm still going to give UV's a shot as they seem more promising than regular V's. If I still don't like them after a week or two I might just switch to adding more reps to my Regular OK Dry Jelqs.

        BEGIN! October 25, 2020
        BPEL: 6.0625"
        MEG = 4.625"
        BEG = 4.5"

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        • #49
          Dec 15, 2020 - OFF DAY

          - Morning Wood
          - Stretchy, elastic flaccid

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          Dec 16, 2020

          15 minute Warm Up
          - JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
          - 300 Dry Jelqs
          - 30 Dry ULTIMATE V's (by Rbi99)
          - Edged 50 Minutes. With release.
          5 Minute
          Warm Down

          NOTES:

          I'm still continuing on with the lighter tension stretches. Pulling slowly and gently until it stops, then add a little more tension past the stopping point. Hold that tension for 30 seconds.

          My Dry Jelqs are still mostly 3-5 seconds. This time I've mixed up some added pressure jelqs, with some lighter jelqs, medium jelqs, and some long rep time jelqs (10 seconds).

          I did my 30 Ultimate V's this time solely using my thumb and index finger. It's easier to use and frees up my other hand. I'm getting used to doing UV's this way! I still lose most of my erection after each rep, so I have to get it up again after each rep, which takes up a lot of my time.

          Other than that, my only other issue is I find the UV ineffective unless I'm completely squeezing both sides of the CC's. Meaning the intensity I'm applying seems pretty strong, but if I ease up a little, the jelq seems and feels like I'm no longer moving blood up the shaft. The glans don't engorge and it feels like I'm doing nothing. I only feel blood moving up the shaft and the glans engorging when I'm pinching with higher intensity for my UV's.

          So I'm thinking if I stick to a low amount of reps (just the 30 reps of UV's) compared to the recommended 180 Regular V-Jelqs, that the higher intensity UV's would be okay.

          I'll see how my PI's look tomorrow.

          One other observation worthy of noting was as I got to around the 15th rep of UV and onward, I noticed as I finished the rep with the stretch toward my stomach, I noticed my penis was closer than ever to my belly button. I WAS applying a MORE INTENSE stretch for a few seconds after each UV rep.

          So I got up and measured the stretched length on my wooden ruler, and it nearly measured just shy of 6.5"! But when I tried again 30 seconds later stretching out my penis, the stretched length went back to the usual 6.25.

          I tried one more UV rep and then measured the stretch again, and it was 6.5" again!.

          After I finished my workout and warmed down and tried measuring my BPFSL again and this time got 6.3125"

          It's probably just a temporary after workout gain, but what's worth noting is that I've actually tried measuring my BPFSL a few times before and after a PE Workout, and every time there would be no change in BPFSL.

          This is the first time I've measured any notable difference in my before and afters for BPFSL. Maybe the UV's are a good addition? We'll see tomorrow on how my PI's are doing!
          StartNow
          Senior Member
          Last edited by StartNow; 12-20-2020, 01:01 AM.
          BEGIN! October 25, 2020
          BPEL: 6.0625"
          MEG = 4.625"
          BEG = 4.5"

          Just Watch My Log

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          • #50
            Dec 17, 2020

            15 minute Warm Up
            - JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
            - 300 Dry Jelqs
            - 30 Dry ULTIMATE V's (by Rbi99)
            - Edged 40 Minutes. With release.
            No
            Warm Down

            NOTES:

            Stretches felt great today!

            Dry Jelqs were mixed up with higher and lesser intensities of pressure, mostly between 3-5 seconds. With a few longer reps added in here and there.

            The Ultimate-V's are intense, and I still worry I may still be applying too much pressure when doing them. They are also time intensive, as after every UV Jelq I lose most of my erection and have to get it up to 40%-60% again. I did however try to pull with less strength compared to yesterday as I wasn't sure if I was going to hard. I didn't feel any pain when pulling harder yesterday but I want to stick to lighter stretches for now.

            I might go back to just Dry Jelqs and just raise the amount of reps I'm doing instead of the UV's. Not sure yet. I actually really like how engorged I make my glans and the pressure I'm using, there's no pain. I just worry I'm adding too much intensity too soon, and again it's soooo time intensive for just 30 reps. It takes me about 30+ minutes to do them. The reps are long in the jelqing motion, but I also take my time with a slow stretch in the up, up left, and up right directions.

            Will do some more research tomorrow on my off day!
            BEGIN! October 25, 2020
            BPEL: 6.0625"
            MEG = 4.625"
            BEG = 4.5"

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            • #51
              Dec 18, 2020 - OFF DAY

              I attempted fowfers for the first time today in the evening. I didn't really stretch it out under my cheeks or anything. I just tucked my flaccid between my thighs and laid in bed on my laptop. No real routine, just when my body ached from being in one position too long I'd change positions and keep my flaccid tucked in.

              When I would get up to go to the bathroom to pee, my flaccid WAS SO STRETCHY and PLIABLE, and just radiating WARMTH. It was definitely hanging lower and a little more plump then usual. I LOVED IT.

              I haven't really experienced much turtling but I think this is a good way to Anti-Turtle and to improve healing in a warmed up and more stretched out state. I haven't gotten around to actually trying to get a stretch out of it by putting it BTC. And I'm still getting such amazing flaccids! Love it!

              PI's
              - Nice Morning Wood
              - Stretchy, pliable, soft and warm flaccid

              I also read up about JAI stretches. So I would try like 4-5 reps whenever I went to go pee, didn't do too much. Was just kind of playing around with it and realize I am pretty impatient and got bored too quickly to do 20 reps every time I went to pee
              BEGIN! October 25, 2020
              BPEL: 6.0625"
              MEG = 4.625"
              BEG = 4.5"

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              • #52
                Dec 19, 2020

                15 minute Warm Up
                - 400 Dry Jelqs (Before Stretches)
                - JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
                - Edged 1 Hour. With release.
                No
                Warm Down

                NOTES:

                So I decided to switch it up and instead do my Dry Jelqs first and then Stretch after. It was a nice change of pace and I actually like getting the jelqs out of the way first and stretching in the end. I think I'll stick with the workout in this order for now

                I also have upped the total reps for Dry Jelqs to 400.

                As a result I've gotten rid of the Ultimate V's for now. I don't want to push my penis too far with the high intensity V-Jelqs I do, even though I'm doing them in a low rep range.

                I save time by just upping the amount of Dry Jelq reps instead of doing Ultimate V's.

                Edging was fun as usual. I didn't want to climax, but I read up on Reverse Kegels more. It turns out my observation (Dec 11) about when I near the PONR and do a RK, it kind of induces an ejaculation anyways (just slightly delayed) seems to be a well known phenomenon! That was pretty cool to find out. Apparently RK's can push you away from PONR, but if you're too close to it (like if you're at the Involuntary Kegel stage) or are at the PONR and you try to RK to stop it, you'll only end up making the climax happen.

                https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...se-kegels.html

                ~~~EDGING AND REVERSE KEGELS

                When edging, reverse kegels (specifically front reverse kegel) are used before the PONR in order to push it back or at any time you feel unwanted contractions.
                Doing them stretches and relaxes the pelvic floor (the BC muscle in particular) allowing blood to flow more freely and naturally in and out of the penis decreasing sensitivity and tension in the area.
                Reverse kegels done at or to close to the PONR can have the opposite effect and cause you to cum. Even without the involuntary contractions associated with ejaculation causing the cum to just pour out the end of your penis.~~~


                I wanted to try it out when I was done with my edging. So I RK'd near the PONR and lo and behold the cum DID just pour out at the end of my penis, instead of pop and shoot like what usually happens during ejaculation.
                BEGIN! October 25, 2020
                BPEL: 6.0625"
                MEG = 4.625"
                BEG = 4.5"

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                • #53
                  Dec 20, 2020

                  a) 15 minute Warm Up
                  b) 400 Dry Jelqs
                  c) JP90 Stretches (Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 min timed]
                  d) Edging for 1 Hour 15 Minutes. No release.
                  e) 5 minute Warm Down
                  f) Fowfers in bed tonight (for further warm down and anti-turtling)

                  NOTES:

                  I was getting annoyed with the font I had been using for On Days, who wants to have to squint to read such thin and light letters?! I apologize but also thank anybody who suffered through that font, but still read it anyways!

                  Also, I just ordered the Penimaster Classic yesterday! I want to see how the strap system feels, and if I really don't like it, I'll just buy the vacuum attachment and hope that is more comfortable. I'm not planning on using an extender yet, I just thought it'd be nice to have when I'm ready to use it. We'll see how my Dong Diggity looks on Measurement Day on either the 24th or 25th. Hopefully I see some sort of gains this time!

                  Anyways, on to the scheduled programming...

                  I find doing the Jelqs first I'm actually able to keep my wood at a higher Erection Level % than I usually can, and for a longer period of time.

                  Then afterwards when I start the stretching, it's nice and plump from the jelqing, but flaccid enough to GET TUGGED!

                  BUT it was a little harder and took longer to coax the little guy into an erection when I needed to start edging lol.

                  So I've gone through MadYogi's Progress thread for a 2nd time since I really enjoyed reading through his thought processes and how well he documented and broke down his routines and why he did them. Pretty cool. Anyways, this particular post caught my eye for the second time:

                  https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...ml#post1619920

                  I remember reading it the first time intrigued, but was filled with too much information at the time and was too lazy to check out the post he mentioned. Well, I checked it out, and boy is it A LOT of information. My head hurts! But it's so very interesting!

                  It's a long read, and it's something I'd have to read over 2 or 3 times to fully understand the nitty gritty. But from what I understand their theory and methodology is in line with the Less is More approach. Practically speaking, it can be broken down into these main ingredients:

                  - The value put into Decon. Breaks I never understood but their scientific explanation now really makes me a believer!
                  - Heat used DURING the stretch, if you want to get into details between 40-43 degrees C (104-109.4 F) for Optimal Stretch. Better yet, using an Ultrasound Therapy Machine to truly reach those temperatures in the inner shaft of the penis
                  - Applying Gentle Load with Slowly Progressing Intensity. Basically "Coaxing" into a longer stretch rather than "Forcing" the connective tissues. Like being a ninja and tricking your tissues to stretch longer than they would usually let you!
                  - Utilizing the Stress-Strain Curve from physics and applying it to PE Routines in understanding if your workouts are not enough, right in the zone, or too much, and when you need to do a Decon. Break. By measuring your BPFSL Pre- and Post workout you can do the calculation found in the post I linked to, to find out if you are within optimal range of causing Proliferation, not Tissue Strengthening. That happy medium is between 2-5% Strain.

                  I don't have a US Machine yet and haven't done enough research.
                  I'm waiting to finish at least 90 days of PE before I re-evaluate and decide if I should take a small Decon. Break or not.

                  I realize I already am applying the Slow and Gentle Progressing Intensity into my workouts!

                  What I can do for now is apply the Stress-Strain Theory to my workout today:

                  Pre-Workout BPFSL: 6.3125"
                  Post Workout BPFSL: 6.4375" [Taken before Edging, after stretching]

                  = 1.98% Strain

                  So close to 2%!

                  **On a side note, I'm finally gaining in the BPFSL department! I know I used to randomly measure my BPFSL and it was always 6.25". But looks like I'm slowly gaining in those stretches!

                  I'm going to keep measuring from now on, just to see what happens the next few sessions and gather some data. Then maybe I can start applying what I know and adding more volume or intensity if my % Strain has been falling below 2%, or easing up on my workouts if they're going over 5% Strain.

                  Of course, I'll still be listening to my peen and paying attention to PI's. But this is just another tool in the PE Toolbox!

                  Cool stuff! We'll see where this goes!
                  StartNow
                  Senior Member
                  Last edited by StartNow; 12-21-2020, 05:01 AM.
                  BEGIN! October 25, 2020
                  BPEL: 6.0625"
                  MEG = 4.625"
                  BEG = 4.5"

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                  • #54
                    Dec 21, 2020 - OFF DAY

                    Morning Wood, and penis was soft a elastic. It was slightly sore throughout the day so we'll see how it feels for tomorrows workout session.

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                    Dec 22, 2020

                    a) 20 minute Warm Up
                    b) 400 Dry Jelqs
                    c) JP90 Stretches (Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 min timed]
                    d) Edging for 50 Minutes. With release.
                    e) 10 minute Warm Down
                    f) Fowfers in bed tonight (for further warm down and anti-turtling)

                    NOTES:

                    Still doing mixed pressure Jelqs, but I've noticed I'm doing more jelqs on the higher pressure side. Trying to reel it back in a bit by keeping the pressure medium to lighter intensities.

                    Stretches are great. Still starting off lighter in the pulls, and near the end pull with a little more intensity. I've been keeping my holds longer than a minute lately and it's probably not a big deal but in the interest of consistency I'm going to try and keep the stretching times to 1 minute my next sessions.

                    Pre-Workout BPFSL: 6.375"
                    Post-Workout BPFSL: 6.5"

                    = 1.96% Strain
                    BEGIN! October 25, 2020
                    BPEL: 6.0625"
                    MEG = 4.625"
                    BEG = 4.5"

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                    • #55
                      Dec 23, 2020

                      a) 20 minute Warm Up
                      b) 400 Dry Jelqs
                      c) JP90 Stretches (Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 min timed]
                      d) Edging for 1 Hour. No release.
                      e) 10 minute Warm Down
                      f) Fowfers in bed tonight (for further warm down and anti-turtling)

                      NOTES:

                      Stretches and Jelqs felt good today. Really took my time with them.

                      Pre-Workout BPFSL: 6.375"
                      Post-Workout BPFSL: 6.4375"

                      = 0.98% Strain

                      Maybe I need to increase the intensity of my stretches? I'll give it a few more sessions before I decide anything.

                      I'm going to take 2 days off this time so I can measure on the 25th
                      BEGIN! October 25, 2020
                      BPEL: 6.0625"
                      MEG = 4.625"
                      BEG = 4.5"

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                      • #56
                        Dec 24 ~ 25, 2020 - OFF DAYS

                        Thought I'd just take a break for the holidays. Also I initially was going to measure on the 25th but I wanted to give myself 2 full days of rest before measuring so I moved it to the 26th!

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                        Dec 26, 2020- OFF DAY

                        MEASUREMENT DAY

                        BPEL = 6.00" Relaxed Boner/6.25" Near PONR or Fully Kegeled (Previous 6"/6.25"6.0625"(*EDIT: I realized read my Beginner PE measurements wrong!!)[SAME/+0.1875]
                        MEG = 4.625"
                        (Previous 4.625")[SAME]
                        BEG = 4.5625"
                        (Previous 4.5")[+ 0.0625]

                        After taking dozens of photos and measuring even more without taking pictures. My BPEL has definitely grown, there's no doubt about it. I just realized the perspective in which I look down on the ruler, whether I'm just bending my neck, or my head is more over the ruler, can add/reduce a couple 1/16th's of increments. I measure BPEL 3 different ways:

                        a) edge of ruler BP so I have to read the measurement on the side.
                        - this I think is the most consistent and accurate
                        - but a flaw I've come to find out is when I look at the measurement on the side, it's at an angle and can skew the resulting measurement
                        - and also determining exactly which 1/16th notch/line the tip of my penis is on is harder because there's a gap between the tip and the lines. Because penises unfortunately aren't perfect cylinders that I can just read where the edge lines up with the ruler

                        b) same edge of ruler but I rotate the ruler 45 degrees so it's still hitting the most outward part of the pubic bone
                        - it makes reading the measurements easier as I can just bend my head down to read the measurement

                        c) ruler flat side on my penis and the end pressed up a little higher so I am closer to the most outward part of the pubic bone. I avoid laying the ruler completely flat on my penis and pressing the ruler in because it actually ends up digging under the small space between the penis and the pubic bone, giving longer measurements the harder you push the ruler as it starts to include measuring your inner penis a bit.
                        - I made the mistake of pushing the ruler in the gap when I first started measuring, that's why I added the a) & b) way of measuring as they're more consistent in how far deep the ruler goes
                        - it works out pretty decently because I aim the end of the ruler a little higher up so I'm hitting actual pubic bone, but it might not always hit the most outward part of my pubic bone for a consistent measurement
                        - but at least I'm not digging into the gap underneath my pubic bone giving my dick measurements more inches/cm's than in actuality
                        - it's the easiest to read because since it's mostly flat against my penis there's less guessing of exactly which 1/16th notch/line the tip of the penis is under
                        - also I only have to look down to read it

                        So when I started doing Measurement c) at MAX BPEL, it looked like it hit 6 5/16 (6.3125") ~ 6 6/16(6.375"). I measured multiple times this way. I know gained because before when I first started measuring, I NEVER hit past 6 4/16 (6.25") MAX BPEL, even when digging under the pubic bone.

                        A few times when I tried reading Measurement a) at MAX BPEL, it looked like I hit those same numbers above. But how I know angles can be deceiving was when I started taking photos of the side of my penis with the same style of measuring and after looking at dozens of photos taken most of them were at 6.25", but a few looked like they just almost hit the 6.3125" increment.

                        After examining my Measurement a) Starting Photos, I realized I wasn't reading them correctly and grossly overestimating where the notches lined up with the tip of my penis. I just realized I could use my ruler and line it up with the notches on the pictures on my laptop and it helped me determine more exactly which notch my penis ends on.

                        I realized the MAX BPEL Starting should have been 6 1/16 (6.0625") based on Measurment a) style readings.


                        This is long winded but basically I've just been reading my measurements wrong and to be honest as long as I just measured and read the same way there shouldn't be a problem.

                        Basically I estimate I gained between 2/16" to 3/16" in MAX BPEL !!

                        I should now be at a proper 6.25" MAX BPEL no matter how I look at it. I'm wary about my Measurement c) readings that went past that (6.25") mark, but this post will serve as a Note and reminder when I measure for next month.

                        I'm going to have to edit my original post and my Measurement Day posts to reflect my more true and proper measurements

                        My Base EG is a nice small gain, it's hard to tell when it's such a small increase and Erection Quality or improper measuring can bring it up or down. But I measured multiple times and I'll take it! I start off wrapping the measuring tape around tight and then loosen the wrap until it's not pinching in the meat of my shaft anymore and just lying on the skin with no gaps. I also have issues with the Base EG measurement because my ball sac connects pretty high up on the shaft so there's lots of extra skin to get past and pull back and fight against as I measure the Base Girth.

                        With all this measuring I basically Edged for the better part of 2+ Hours, and I think I'm being conservative with that lol. I also climaxed twice.
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                        Last edited by StartNow; 12-29-2020, 11:52 AM. Reason: Typo in my Recorded BPEL Current Measurements
                        BEGIN! October 25, 2020
                        BPEL: 6.0625"
                        MEG = 4.625"
                        BEG = 4.5"

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                        • #57
                          Dec 27, 2020

                          a) 15 minute Warm Up
                          b) 400 Dry Jelqs
                          c) JP90 Stretches (Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 min timed]
                          d) Edging for 1 Hour. With release.
                          e) 10 minute Warm Down
                          f) Fowfers in bed tonight (for further warm down and anti-turtling)

                          NOTES:

                          Getting back into the routine of things. I tried jelqing both standing and sitting, I would just sit down in one position until I got tired of it and then switched to the other position. This way I wasn't spending 45-60 mins sitting on my bum jelqing, it kept me from aching from any 1 position while doing my PE.

                          I also forgot to measure my Pre and Post BPFSL measurements today for Strain %. I'll make sure to remember for tomorrows workout!
                          BEGIN! October 25, 2020
                          BPEL: 6.0625"
                          MEG = 4.625"
                          BEG = 4.5"

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                          • #58
                            Dec 28, 2020

                            a) 15 minute Warm Up
                            b) 400 Dry Jelqs
                            ~ Quick 5 Minute Warmup
                            c) JP90 Stretches (Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 min timed]
                            d) Edging for 30 minutes. With release.
                            e) 10 minute Warm Down
                            f) Fowfers in bed tonight (for further warm down and anti-turtling)

                            NOTES:

                            Jelqs were great today. I added a quick 5 minute warm up with a heating pad in between the Dry Jelqs and the Stretching just because I had time. I don't think you can ever have too much warmth while PEing.

                            The stretches felt great, I went to Max Tension more earlier on in the JP90 stretches than I usually do, what's most important though is I stay consistent with the gentle and slow stretch to tension and I still did that.

                            Pre-Workout BPFSL: 6.3125"
                            Post-Workout BPFSL: 6.5"

                            = 2.97% Strain

                            Pretty good! Possible reasons for the better Strain % could be the quick in between warm up before my stretches, the Max Tension applied earlier in the JP90 stretches, my 3 day break from PE, a combination of them, or just plain randomness, but probably progress!
                            BEGIN! October 25, 2020
                            BPEL: 6.0625"
                            MEG = 4.625"
                            BEG = 4.5"

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                            • #59
                              Dec 29, 2020 - OFF DAY

                              Don't remember if I had morning wood today. But my penis has a nice flaccid, soft and stretchy! Which is always a good sign. I'm living for the Bed Fowfers right now! I don't follow them exactly as described though, since I don't pull it back behind the cheeks and stretch it as far back as possible before gripping with my thighs. I just tuck it in between my legs and balls, not much of a pull. I do it more to keep my penis warm and from turtling, though I haven't experienced much turtling. I might add the stretch in the Fowfers in the future but I want to add/remove one variable at a time so I have an idea of what's working or not working. I want to first make sure my length gains are mainly coming from my Slow-Mo JP90 Stretches as I spend a lot of focus, time, and technique on them. Gotta see if the stretches are working at all if I'm putting so much time into them!

                              I've also noticed recently that the shaft under my foreskin when semi-erect kind of feels more ribbed and bumpy lately, which from what I've read is a good sign of growth to come!

                              Also I know I've gained in my last Measurement Day, but I just want to wait until my 3rd month in PE before I make any changes to my Signature!
                              BEGIN! October 25, 2020
                              BPEL: 6.0625"
                              MEG = 4.625"
                              BEG = 4.5"

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                              • #60
                                Dec 30, 2020

                                a) 20 minute Warm Up
                                b) 400 Dry Jelqs
                                ~ 15 Minute Warmup in between exercises
                                c) JP90 Stretches (Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 min timed]
                                d) Edging for 30 minutes. NO release.
                                e) 10 minute Warm Down
                                f) Fowfers in bed tonight (for further warm down and anti-turtling)

                                ***NIGHTTIME: Edged for 1 HOUR 15 MINUTES. NO RELEASE.

                                NOTES:

                                Not one of my best workouts today, I was in a bit of a rush so I don't think I did my best with this one. I also felt like I may have been pulling with too much tension while doing the JP90 Slow-Mo stretches today.

                                So I edged for 30 minutes during my workout today, and this time around I didn't spend my whole session full hand on shaft just jerkin it away! After I got near my first PONR, I slowed down and while my foreskin was retracted from my glans I used my index and thumb to just pull/push my foreskin gently and slowly up and down my shaft. Just indirectly stimulating my inner foreskin letting it get pulled and pushed, once in a while fully retracting the skin, but that usually induces a very strong Involuntary Kegel because of the pull and tightness stimulating my Frenulum Zone, especially near PONR. So I usually kept my foreskin strokes very mild and moving a few mm up and a few mm down. Letting the push/pull stimulate my very sensitive inner foreskin.

                                Doing this near PONR would induce tiny tiny Involuntary Kegels and would give me enough time to stop stimulating from pulling/pushing and inducing a really strong IK that would bring me over the edge.

                                So I just kept my penis near the PONR the whole time by constantly and gently stimulating myself this way and keeping myself from climaxing. I've heard people use the term "Riding the Edge", I've never read up or looked into it before but this sounds like what I did.

                                So my penis stayed near its Max Erect State for a longer period of time because it was always near the PONR. I think that my help with gains as now your penis is staying stretched out for longer and with the constant bloodflow would help with the healing process. It was a fun experiment and I liked that it stayed in that state for a longer period of time. Usually when I masturbate my Erection Level can lower and get higher like a rollercoaster, doing it this way kept my erection harder for a longer period of time.


                                ***THEN, 10ish hours later at night I was feeling kind of frisky so I decided to edge some more. What I thought was going to be a quick 10-15 minute session turned into a 1 Hour and 15 Minute session!! Again with NO RELEASE.

                                I turned on some porn and stimulated myself lightly and my penis got VERY HARD. When I left it alone it STAYED HARD. I would say it was a 9/10, where as with a Kegel would be 10/10 EQ. What I usually experience even when watching porn is if I stop stimulating my penis and leave it alone, even after 5 seconds I would pretty quickly start to lose Erection Level and get softer.

                                So my Erections stayed hard with no effort whatsoever for a longer period of time, and I also felt like I had better control of when "I" wanted to cum. I didn't feel like I was nearing the edge too quickly and hit a Plateau State where I felt like I could just keep stroking forever!! Basically my Erections stayed HARDER, LONGER, and I could LAST LONGER.

                                It took me a while to get to my first PONR, and as I've been working on avoiding holding Hard Kegels while masturbating, I had to actually consciously hold a Hard Kegel to even start bringing myself closer to the PONR! Even then, it took longer than usual to get there and I still felt like I had better control while holding a Hard Kegel. Very cool!

                                This is the 2nd time I've experienced this in my PE Journey. The first time was Here on Dec 4, 2020.

                                Both times the Common Variable I did before both instances was Edging with NO Release. I don't know if time is a factor here but both times 8+ hours had passed before I had decided to Edge again and experienced amazing Ejaculation Control and Harder Erections for Longer periods of Time! It however seems like a temporary solution to my EQ and Premature Ejaculation issues, since when I finally ejaculate, and I try to edge/masturbate again later on, I go back to square one lol. Or maybe the more I do it the better control I'll have over it. Kind of analogous to Pumping giving temporary gains, but the more time you spend using it the more those temporary gains slowly become real gains.

                                So maybe if I continue utilizing this method (Edging w/ No Release), while actively working on keeping my Pelvic Floor Relaxed by practising not holding Hard Kegels while edging/masturbating, I'll eventually rewire myself, brain, reflexes and habits to have BETTER CONTROL OVER MY PENIS!

                                If anything, this might be a good technique to use if I know I'm going to have sex later on in the day!!

                                *I did NOT Climax in the nighttime Edging session either. So I'm going to see tomorrow when I edge, if I'll manage to have the same effect I experienced today with edging with no release.

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                                ~~~Note to Self: Look up "Riding the Edge" later for edging purposes

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                                ~~EDIT: Forgot to add Strain %

                                Pre-Workout BPFSL: 6.4375"
                                Post-Workout BPFSL: 6.5"

                                = 0.97% Strain

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                                ~Another Note to Self(2): Keep in mind I'm just barely touching 6.5" BPFSL, and both Pre & Post measurements were done doing slow and gentle stretch to Max Tension. And by the time I measure I'm pulling pretty hard and am taking multiple measurements at different angles and styles (all Bone-Pressed, of course).

                                I want to remind myself because sometimes I question whether or not I actually have seen results because the gains are so small and incremental, you kind of start doubting yourself and start thinking "maybe I wasn't pulling hard enough last month?" Memory is a fickle beast.

                                When I did my Starting Measurements, my BPFSL was 6.25". But because I never took a picture of that, nor did I ever record a reminder like this, I've been questioning myself on whether I measured properly, if I remembered correctly, or if I maybe pulled a little harder for longer I would've reached 6.5" BPFSL from the start anyways and so this wasn't a gain. But that's just crazy ol' me being in my head too much

                                So this serves as a reminder so when I DO PASS 6.5" BPFSL, that YES, YOU HAVE MADE GAINS. You are NOT CRAZY!! Lol.
                                StartNow
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                                Last edited by StartNow; 12-31-2020, 10:13 PM. Reason: Forgot to add Strain Percentage!
                                BEGIN! October 25, 2020
                                BPEL: 6.0625"
                                MEG = 4.625"
                                BEG = 4.5"

                                Just Watch My Log

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