Stan's stretching journal

[tspot180]

Have you been edging to max erection everyday all this time?
This feels like the last question I'm going to ask for a while, thanks again for all your input and good luck with making your unit top notch.

[Stan]

Do you think heat is needed for bpfsl gains? There are guys who think the septum is very hard to stretch and they believe that's their limiting factor, people inserting heating devices into their urethra...Do you think all this is realistic?

I have no experience in that department. All I know is I gained without heat.

What part of your unit gave you the most gains, if you would have to guess? I hope that's a legible question.
Looking at your pictures, it isn't obvious to me that you've stretched your lig so much. In fact, it really looks to me like you've stretched the rest of the shaft much more.

I think everything but the glans got stretched, and the lig is definitely maxed out.

[tspot180]

Do you think heat is needed for bpfsl gains? There are guys who think the septum is very hard to stretch and they believe that's their limiting factor, people inserting heating devices into their urethra...Do you think all this is realistic?
What part of your unit gave you the most gains, if you would have to guess? I hope that's a legible question.
Looking at your pictures, it isn't obvious to me that you've stretched your lig so much. In fact, it really looks to me like you've stretched the rest of the shaft much more.

[Stan]

hey stan, what's your flaccid length ?? and flaccid girth

Both vary a lot, I'd say length would usually be somewhere between 6.25" and 6.5" NBP (flat on table, ruler on top), and girth a little under 5" mid-shaft.

[Catarro]

hey stan, what's your flaccid length ?? and flaccid girth

[Stan]

I mostly feel strong BC IKs during an erection after some serious stretching. It also feels heavier and rubbery.
If I'm just edging, and no stretching was done before, BC IKs occur only if edging improperly and it mostly depends on the quality of last sex/orgasm for me. I can't describe IC IKs though.

If you have BC IKs you probably have IC IKs as well, BC IKs are usually triggered by IC IKs. For instance when you do kegels the IC is engaged first. Its contracting is what makes your unit "jump", and you can see the base slightly retracting.

Is it correct that the IC holds the CC expansion, and the BC holds the CS and glans expansion?

Yes basically.

[tspot180]

I think that over time I learned to anticipate the IC IKs and to slightly relax the BC just before they happen.

I mostly feel strong BC IKs during an erection after some serious stretching. It also feels heavier and rubbery.
If I'm just edging, and no stretching was done before, BC IKs occur only if edging improperly and it mostly depends on the quality of last sex/orgasm for me. I can't describe IC IKs though.
Night wood is something I am not sure if it's happening, I never wake up with morning wood, but never wake up totally flaccid either.
I always felt gaining bpfsl made my unit come back reinforced with no edging whatsoever. But that didn't translate to a bpel gain most of the times.
Is it correct that the IC holds the CC expansion, and the BC holds the CS and glans expansion?

[Stan]

Could you describe your current kegel routine?

I don't have a routine, I do as much as needed from day to day. The goal is for the BC to feel solid and meaty at all times so I work from there, and there are days where more kegels are needed in order to achieve that. There are several factors at play: night wood, sitting on my ass vs. standing and being active, quality of last sex/edging session and orgasm etc.

[tspot180]

I really envy your ability to describe your BC going through stages like that.
Could you describe your current kegel routine?

I've finally come to terms with the saddening fact that I have to completely stop stretching if I want to see my unit get fully functional again. Even light casual stretches kill my sensitivity.

I was slightly in grief when I read this.

[Stan]

I want to fully understand what exactly is required to gain EL (...) If my short term goal is to do say 3 hours of erect work per week do you think I can do 2 x 15 minutes every day and still hope for EL gains? Of course, I always start the timer once I get to 10/10 then keep on applying very light stimulation to my unit.

The idea is not so much to stay at 100% but to try to get to 110% if it makes sense. Long edging sessions is what I do but it might not be necessary for you, and light stimulation is what I use but you might try some more aggressive edging as well. Try to find what works for you and don't be so hung up on time requirements, and don't forget that edging should be for pleasure first.

You said your edging skills got much better once you were able to tame IC IKs, did you get better at it over time or did you do something in particular to stop them from happening? Personally, I find breathing is important and has helped me avoid IKs but not every time.

I think that over time I learned to anticipate the IC IKs and to slightly relax the BC just before they happen.

[maalem]

Yes exactly.



Uncomfortable no, but the whole thing feels kinda rubbery, glans included.



IMO you should work on your EQ first.

Got it thanks a lot I meant the glans would get a bit sore when stimulated right after the hard stretching (done in a row for ~30min) but it turned out I had a small injury to the corona and that's what has been making it feel uncomfortable. I can still get to 10/10 EQ (just did that earlier) if that's what you mean by having 10/10 EQ. However, if what you mean by that is being able to achieve 10/10 AND stay at that erection level for 30+ minutes, then I'm definitely not there yet. Right now I can get ~15 minutes with very gentle strokes while trying to avoid IC IKs.

I am so sorry to be a bother Stan but I have one more question, I'm stupid I know lol - it's just that I want to fully understand what exactly is required to gain EL and, most importantly, not waste time. Right now, BPEL is 8"1/8 and max post-workout BPFSL is 8"7/8 but I can't seem to be able to push the ruler as hard into the fat pad when measuring BPEL (I can still feel the bone when measuring BPEL though!).

What are your thoughts on splitting the erect work? For instance, if my short term goal is to do say 3 hours of erect work per week do you think I can do 2 x 15 minutes every day and still hope for EL gains? Of course, I always start the timer once I get to 10/10 then keep on applying very light stimulation to my unit.

You said your edging skills got much better once you were able to tame IC IKs, did you get better at it over time or did you do something in particular to stop them from happening? Personally, I find breathing is important and has helped me avoid IKs but not every time.

[Stan]

I've finally come to terms with the saddening fact that I have to completely stop stretching if I want to see my unit get fully functional again. Even light casual stretches kill my sensitivity. Getting full sensitivity back is top priority as I absolutely need it to edge adequately and hopefully get to max erection again. So no more beating around the bush, I've wasted too much time trying to make compromises but it doesn't work. I remember an early post of mine where I said I'd stop PE in a heartbeat if I end up not being able to get rock hard anymore, well it's a heartbeat that's lasted 3 years. Enough is enough.

Good news is the BC is definitely in much better shape now, and the CS keeps on growing back slowly, it's still very soft to the touch past mid-shaft but there's some bulging almost all the way to the head now. BTW I might have been too harsh on RKs, flaccid RKs are still to be avoided at all costs but erect RKs in moderation don't seem to cause any harm, probably because I can easily focus them on the BC only, now that it's in better shape.

[Stan]

If I understand the process you went through correctly, you would first gain FSL which would screw up your EQ for a few days until it gets back to 10/10 then the EL gains would come through edging, is that right?

Yes exactly.

I am having all of the symptoms you experienced of that weird EQ but my glans would also feel weird if I try to masturbate after the hard stretching. Did you also experience that uncomfortable feeling at the glans? It feels like it has less energy if that makes sense..

Uncomfortable no, but the whole thing feels kinda rubbery, glans included.

In your opinion, should I keep on stretching even though EQ is weird and I can't get to what feels like 100% engorged?

IMO you should work on your EQ first.

[maalem]

It's just something that happened right before every measured EL gain, a phase of bad EQ, with more or less trouble sustaining an erection and total inability to reach what feels like 100%. I'm not worried because good EQ always comes back.

The mistake I made when it happened last year and lasted for an unusually long time, was to eventually stop stretching. EQ came back but at the same size as before. Not doing that mistake again now, no matter how long it takes.

In fact I think the reason the recovery took so long was I had taken the bad habit of stimulating it at the expected max angle, not at the natural angle, and that kept it from getting adequately engorged. Once I noticed that, EQ quickly came back. Not doing that mistake again either.

If I understand the process you went through correctly, you would first gain FSL which would screw up your EQ for a few days until it gets back to 10/10 then the EL gains would come through edging, is that right?

I am having all of the symptoms you experienced of that weird EQ but my glans would also feel weird if I try to masturbate after the hard stretching. Did you also experience that uncomfortable feeling at the glans? It feels like it has less energy if that makes sense..

In your opinion, should I keep on stretching even though EQ is weird and I can't get to what feels like 100% engorged?

[maalem]

With side shots the camera must be exactly parallel to the ruler and point exactly at the tip or there will be parallax issues.

Word, thanks!

He might be, but I know I wouldn't. FSL gains completely screw up my EQ. My last bit of FSL gains can be lost very quickly if I don't keep on stretching, and if I keep on stretching to cement it then my EQ won't get any better. The only way out of this is to get back to 10/10 faster than I'd lose the FSL gain, which isn't possible if I don't have 10/10 EQ to begin with.

Stretching is definitely affecting my eq as well. Was having sex earlier and even then EQ felt a bit weak. When I edged I was able to get to 10/10 though (I was also 10/10 eq upon starting), it's just the stamina that I lack when nearing the PONR. I am now also 90% sure I've made FSL gains this month, My problem is that I don't know whether I am experiencing the same gains in progress phases you've been through or that the hard stretching is affecting my unit badly. The bad EQ as a result of stretching is worrying me a bit I must say.