The Official Hard Flaccid Recovery Thread

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

Trigger points, kegels, penis pumps, has this thread suddenly gone back 5 years??? Read what Voodoo's been saying for the last few months or look on his site and..err..that's all you need to know to get better.

Is voodoo still active?

[cco Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close cco]

Yes.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Voodoo posted the end all be all in training for this. Not long ago, but I don't remember the thread. Can someone link it in here? Maybe cco?

[fighting4acure Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close fighting4acure]

Hey guys,
new to the forum and I am experiencing just about everything that has been mentioned on here and more. First and foremost I am 25, injured myself when I was younger and finally decided to speak up and started seeing doctors 2 years ago. My symptoms include the obvious hard flaccid which worsens when doing physical exercising such as playing tennis or lifting weights and also after EQ. In addition I cant maintain an erection without stimulation for more than 5 seconds. I have a difficult time starting and finishing urination which includes dripping. In addition, shaft will take on hourglass shape after working out and other various times. My unit also tends to twitch at times when getting aroused.
I have seen a few urologists who have conducted dopplers, urinary analysis' and two of the three stated I have bloodflow issues after analyzing the dopplers. I have heard stage fright, caffeine and other factors can alter the true answer but who knows.
Sitting and relaxing (performing reverse kegels) definitely helps loosen things up down there but nothing seems to help with the main issue of staying hard. If anyone could help me and give me some insight it would mean the world and at this point would change my life for the better.

God Bless

[mikecares Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikecares]

Hey guys,
new to the forum and I am experiencing just about everything that has been mentioned on here and more. First and foremost I am 25, injured myself when I was younger and finally decided to speak up and started seeing doctors 2 years ago. My symptoms include the obvious hard flaccid which worsens when doing physical exercising such as playing tennis or lifting weights and also after EQ. In addition I cant maintain an erection without stimulation for more than 5 seconds. I have a difficult time starting and finishing urination which includes dripping. In addition, shaft will take on hourglass shape after working out and other various times. My unit also tends to twitch at times when getting aroused.
I have seen a few urologists who have conducted dopplers, urinary analysis' and two of the three stated I have bloodflow issues after analyzing the dopplers. I have heard stage fright, caffeine and other factors can alter the true answer but who knows.
Sitting and relaxing (performing reverse kegels) definitely helps loosen things up down there but nothing seems to help with the main issue of staying hard. If anyone could help me and give me some insight it would mean the world and at this point would change my life for the better.

God Bless

I've had symptoms for about 4 days. It's scary. However, with ANY injury, I do believe that exercise is the cure for any injury. Whether you tear your ACL, break a leg, have tendonitis, or tear a muscle...once inflammation has subsided, exercises are performed to INCREASE recovery and functionality. You tear an ACL, you slowly perform a graded exercise program. You tear a muscle, you do the same thing. Healing may take time, but you can always increase functionality. I have a strong physiotherapy background, so take my word for it.

I'm not sure what the healing time is for the tissues in the penis, but I imagine that the structures are not HEAVILY damaged if you do not have significant pain, swelling or numbness. With this in mind, it would make sense that some kind of pelvic physiotherapy or exercises for the penis would increase recovery. The thing is I'm not sure how specific these things get. I'm going to a pelvic physio on Monday.

[mikecares Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikecares]

Trigger points, kegels, penis pumps, has this thread suddenly gone back 5 years??? Read what Voodoo's been saying for the last few months or look on his site and..err..that's all you need to know to get better.

Just because you are psychological and mentally stable or in a positive state, does not mean your functional and physical deficits will get better. For any injury, some kind of exercise promotes recovery.

[fighting4acure Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close fighting4acure]

thats the thing i had swelling when i was younger which included lose of erection, as if it were a fracture however there was zero pain affiliated with the injury. However a vein on the top right of the shaft is much more defined since then (note injury occured 10 years ago). I forgot to mention it loosens when I urinate as well as sitting or lying down but gets worse also in times of stress.

[cco Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close cco]

Voodoo posted the end all be all in training for this. Not long ago, but I don't remember the thread. Can someone link it in here? Maybe cco?

Just scroll back a few pages or go on his blog.

[mikecares Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikecares]

So I've had hard flaccid for 5 days. Ive been doing some reverse kegals and got my mom to do some pelvic trigger point releasing therapy (she's a RMT) and I've done some glute bridges as well. Don't notice any change in symptoms. My mom is an RMT and like many others, trigger points are debated as to whether they even exist. I'm going to a qualified pelvic physiotherapist on Tuesday.

I also have a strong physio background...so I know that if you attack an injury or dysfunction early, the better it is. Also, if exercise helps with an injury, you notice even mild relief of symptoms after a session.

[cco Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close cco]

Do TRE and Yoga Nidra instead. Counting symptoms in days won't help.

[VoodooChild Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close VoodooChild]

Please visit therebornman.tumblr.com

The root of the issue is mental/emotional/trauma related. There are things you can do on a physical level that can and will help such as Restorative Exercise (RE). But the main thing to do is TRE. This is what will resolve the issues in your nervous system which is the only reason this ever becomes a chronic issue. Yoga Nidra meditation is also extremely beneficial.

You have to learn to get your head out of this. If you don't, you will start wiring everything sexually related into a fear circuit of the brain. This will make it impossible for you to function normally. I'm literally having deja vu right now writing this.

I'm not going to elaborate. That's why I made the site. Please for your own sanity go read it. And if you don't believe what I'm saying it's because you are doubting that this could possibly be the answer which is yet another form of fear. Remember, go to the doctor, get checked out, ease your mind. I'm telling you I've had issues for a fucking decade and they are resolving themselves through getting my inner state healthy. It sounds crazy but it really makes a lot of sense once you understand the nature of sexuality and the roll that the nervous system and brain play in the natural flow of sexual energy. You have just lost touch with your own masculinity. It's right there under the surface. Face your fears and it will come back.

peace
voodoo

[mikecares Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikecares]

Have people had success with it? Do you think hard flaccid is related to a traumatic injury to the penis or to contraction of the pelvic wall?

If its traumatic, why don't more people experience pain? It seems like such a devastating thing would cause more pain and discomfort. It many it does not. Seems weird..

on the other hand, is it only pelvic related? Obitoo theorizes that its called by pelvic floor trigger points...but there is no actual scientific evidence that trigger points even exist and it is argued by many different manual therapists.

The interesting thing about the body is that all injuries can be rehabbed by a progressive exercise program (think athlete who tore ACL starting with basic knee raises to progressing to body squats)...the weird thing is that many pplz that have tried pelvic physio exercises with hard flaccid do not get any benefits...

[mrmiyagi Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mrmiyagi]

There is clearly a mental component, but I don't see how you can say it's all mental when it's brought on by trauma. lots of people who experience HF must have some degree of injury

[mikecares Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikecares]

I strongly agree. I am a very healthy and fit person that eats clean and had regular sex. I can hip thrust 300 pounds (my glutes are extremely strong and my posture is very good). People always comment on my posture. Its 100% trauma related in my case and in many cases. the question is whether there is SEVERE damage to the penile tissue or whether the penis is merely a by product of extremely contraction of pelvic muscles.

ITs hard to imagine that penile tissues have become so damage in people with hard flaccid that they have no pain or discomfort. Seems like a weird anomaly.

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

I don't discount voodoo's input, but to say it is totally mental is wrong, it may be for some and for others it will be only physical, for the rest it will be combining factors of both.