Phallosan Forte Review

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Blister Recovery Update:

Still no sign of my blister, knock on "wood." I took a break from the phallosan vacuum and only used the noose extender for 13 days while my blister healed. I've since been tapering in my reintroduction to the vacuum starting with one hour the first day and increasing by an hour each day and supplementing with hours in the noose. I'm up to 5 hours with the vacuum today.

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Bell Popping Out of Clip:

This question has come up a couple times now so I thought I'd make a post about it in my thread.

Both ender1981

the piece that grips the suction cup ("C bracket") widens to the point where it falls off.

and Tylerdurden8us before him

Anyone else having problems with the 'clip' that attaches the pump section to the Bell popping off while wearing while sitting?

reported the vacuum bell popping out of the tension clip during use.

Here is my original post from the phallosan support thread suggesting to wear the clip with the mouth facing toward the body to hold the bell in place:

This has happened to me a few times. The first time I thought it broke and I was relieved to find that it had only come apart. It doesn't happen to me often enough to be troubled by it, but in your case I would experiment to see if it is more likely to come apart if the open side of the ring is pointing toward or away from the body. I'd guess it's probably more likely to come apart with the open side away from the body, but I didn't think to notice how I was wearing it the few times it happened to me. Let me know if you figure out which way is better!

And Steneo and PDF confirming that this solves the problem:

This is spot on, same thing has happened to me three or four times and the open side of the ring was always facing out from the body. Never had a problem when it is facing in which I do exclusively now.

I always make sure that the split is facing inward toward the body and have not had any problem since.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

So far the C-clip is staying in place for hanging 3.85 lbs perfectly! I wonder will it be able to handle 5 lbs

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

So far the C-clip is staying in place for hanging 3.85 lbs perfectly! I wonder will it be able to handle 5 lbs

I think the issue with wearing the belt around the hip is that shifting position can push the bell out of the clip if the mouth is pointed away from the body, so hanging straight down shouldn't have that problem, but maybe using higher weights could present it's own challenge. I wondered if you were using the tension clip to suspend your weights or if you had rigged up some other attachment to the bell like IronMonkey (https://www.pegym.com/forums/members...414-image.html). You're using the clip because it more evenly distributes the weight rather than concentrating it on one side?

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Yup certainly, I will definitely invest in that clip that IronMonkey uses, or I might try to find a different way of holding it in place, or a different method entirely. So many choices. It appears the plastic bell itself can handle a serious amount of weight, since IronMonkey hung up to 12 lbs with it.

[blackscale Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close blackscale]

Any tips to help me conceal wearing the PF out in public, I haven't done it yet and am hesitant to do so at all to work etc as the outline seems too obvious in some clothes. What position of the belt around the hips etc is it best placed to ensure adequate stretch and concealment?

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Also, the foam ring seems to cut off circulation and make my dick cold when using for 1+ hours which scares me a bit. Is there anyway I can adjust it so it doesn't do this? I'm only using low green tension so its not like its pulling too hard.

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Best advice would be to not do it; aside from that it really depends on how long you when you are stretched and how it is positioned across your body. If you have a small body and stretch very long, it becomes harder to conceal and in addition you become more prone to accidental injuries.
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Any tips to help me conceal wearing the PF out in public

I've tried a few different strategies to make the bulge on the hip less conspicuous for public use. Of course, baggier pants and longer shirts help. The best is when I'm able to wear a jacket or sweatshirt that hangs long enough to cover it (I'm looking forward to the colder months when I'll have an excuse to wear more layers). For the office, even a suit coat or an untucked shirt might be long enough to hide the bulge. When this isn't an option, I try to disguise the bulge as if there is something in my pocket. I wear the device lower down on my hips and then fill the pocket below the bulge with other items (phone or wallet, even a sock or wads of paper towel). This way, it seems like the bump is extending up from inside the pocket rather than extending out from your crotch. Sometimes I also put things in the opposite pocket to balance it out and just make it look like I'm carrying a lot of stuff. It's not ideal, but I feel like it's good enough to wear in settings where I don't know anyone and won't be attracting attention. I also avoid wearing belts as I find they make the bulge more visible as they pull my pants tight just above where the phallosan is pressing out.

Also, the foam ring seems to cut off circulation and make my dick cold when using for 1+ hours which scares me a bit.

I've posted my 2 cents about this in your thread (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...tml#post947543 and https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...tml#post947831), but maybe others will chime in here. You might find the temperature is no longer an issue once your penis gets accustomed to the device. As I mentioned in the other post, I got to the point where the foam ring was so irritating for me that I removed it and have been using a different configuration anchored around the top of my leg but still wrapped around the hip (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...tml#post921627). Maybe give it a try and see what you think. It's not a panacea as it can become constricting around the leg, but I prefer it to the original conformation.

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Blister Observation:

It is now more than 3 weeks since I got a blister and thankfully it hasn't reappeared (yet). I've been gearing back up to a more intensive routine and in the past few days have gotten a lot of hours in the vacuum bell. I noticed today that I have some erythema (redness) in a circle around the urethral meatus. It essentially encompasses all of the glans except the coronal ridge and the margin of the redness roughly correlates with the point of inflection where the coronal ridge starts to protrude. I'm not really worried about the erythema, but I thought it was interesting that the location where my blister appeared is on the margin of this red circle, as if it is caused by the transition from tissue exposed to the vacuum to tissue that isn't exposed to the vacuum.

I spoke with ShaneC in a previous post (https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...tml#post934863) about donjelqer’s theory regarding the blisters he was getting from vacuum hanging.

The area i keep getting blisters as at the taper of the glans about 1/4" on either side of the meatus - the is the exact area where the contour of the dome and the contour of the glans are at the greatest distance apart.

This seems to correspond with the location of my blister and the margin of erythema I noticed today. Essentially, the coronal ridge is wide enough that it presses out against the walls of the bell independently but the top of the glans is narrow enough that the vacuum is required to pull it out against the walls. The blisters seem to appear on the border where shearing forces develop as the coronal ridge is held fixed against the walls while the rest of the glans expands, contracts and shifts with fluctuations in tension/pressure and changes in position. At least that's the theory. Also, edema seems to concentrate in the part of the glans held under negative pressure but doesn't appear in the coronal ridge area free from the vacuum. This theory could also explain why some of us start getting blisters when we never did before if previously all of the glans was exposed to the vacuum, but as it grows the widest part of the glans is no longer in negative pressure. I'm not sure how this knowledge would help us avoid blisters. Maybe it is a sign that we need to start using a larger bell. Donjelqer created a vacuum bell molded to the contours of his glans, but I think his final conclusion was that it didn't work any better than the regular dome. Let me know if this theory inspires any other strategies to avoid blisters!

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Extended Hours Concentration:

In a previous post (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...tml#post943817) I wrote about maximizing the value of hours in the phallosan by concentrating those hours in as short a time span as possible. Based on the premise that sporadic hours do not yield the same inches/hour growth rate as condensed hours, and KITM's assertion that phallosan users need to reach 60 hours/week to achieve discernible gains, I've been keeping track in my progress log (https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...tml#post943874) of a new metric that I'm calling "Extended Hours Concentration" (EHC). EHC is the number of hours spent extending out of the number of hours that passed to reach that total. So the EHC for a single day would be the total hours in the extender that day divided by 24, and the EHC at the end of a week would be the total hours in the extender that week divided by 168. KITM's 60 hour weekly benchmark, suggests that we need to maintain an EHC of about 60/168 = 35.7% to achieve discernible gains. My daily goal of 10 hours equates to an EHC of about 10/24 = 41.7%. I've been calculating my daily and weekly EHC for the past couple weeks. The first week encompassed days when I was still transitioning back into the vacuum bell gradually after my blister and I only got 29.5 extending hours that week for an EHC of 29.5/168 = 17.6%. I more than doubled that total for 62 hours and an EHC of 36.9% last week. This is higher than KITM's 60 hours/week (35.7%) minimum threshold, but is still lower than my 10 hours/day, 70 hours/week, 41.7% EHC goal. This calculation doesn't capture the nuance of how long your sessions are or how long your breaks are. For example, the efficacy of extending every other hour for 24 hours is probably different than extending for 12 hours straight and then taking a 12 hour break, but they would give the same EHC. Still, I've found it to be a helpful way to quantify how consistent I'm being with my routine.

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Blister Observation:

Anyone keeping tabs on my progress log (https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...tml#post954578) has read that I'm concerned I might have another blister. My first blister was small and fluid filled. Whereas, in this new case, most of the underside of my glans is involved, but there is no fluid accumulation. The skin just looks shiny, wrinkled, and a little red. It was also a little sore to touch the first day and I had some peeling around the edges yesterday. The best I can describe it is that it looks as though the epidermis has separated from the dermis, like a blister after the fluid has drained away. So I'm back to avoiding the vacuum and piecing together minimal hours in the noose.

This might just be coincidence, but I thought it was worth mentioning here for users speculating on blister etiology: both of my "blistering" episodes have occurred after long sessions where I wore the device over my underwear with my penis pulled through the fly (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...tml#post937677). I sometimes like to wear the device this way when the belt loop that I anchor around my leg starts to irritate the skin and the leg of my boxer briefs provides some cushioning. I'm speculating that having the bell outside, held against the fabric of the underwear rather than against my skin, might make the bell more mobile and promote rubbing inside the bell wall which causes the blisters. It's just a thought, but I'll probably stick to wearing the device against my skin once I return to my normal routine. Interestingly, neither of the "blisters" have appeared when I was using my rod-extender/phallosan adapter, even though I feel like I get a harder stretch with that system.

[farad100 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close farad100]

Sorry for being ignorant, I am using my phone so can't go through all your posts buddy. How much gain have you made with PF.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

Sorry for being ignorant, I am using my phone so can't go through all your posts buddy. How much gain have you made with PF.

Hey Farad, at the time of my last official measurement (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...tml#post931614), I had only recorded about 1/8" of erect length gains from the phallosan, but this was a couple months ago as I was resuming a consistent routine. I've since accumulated more than 250 hours (despite a few injury setbacks). I couldn't resist taking a preliminary bpsfl measurement (https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...tml#post950775) which showed an increase of about 1/4" during this time (for a total of about 1/2" bpsfl phallosan gains), but I'm going to wait until I get around 400 hours on my resumed routine before I take another official erect measurement or update the phallosan user gains table. What kind of growth have you achieved?

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Does anyone have a picture (or can take a pic) of them wearing it under clothes (no face obviously), so i can see how obvious it is under clothes?

In addition to Dreamon's picture that I directed you to in my original response to your questions (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...tml#post941624) I recently came across this picture in another forum. For me, the bulge is a little more prominent and positioned over under the pocket area. Obviously this depends on your size and what size bell you're using.

under clothes small.jpg