My pre e diary. Make it simple.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Well I never truly thought ballooning the belly was something that would be preferred in the bedroom. I mean if it works that's cool I was just making the connection between tensing, not exactly the extreme opposite.
I do lower belly breathing while in hindi squat and it kinda does the same thing but I use it more in stretching.

Upped my ab routine too. I figure if I didnt have a reason to suck in I wouldnt. Plus the core workout helps my Apt.

My gf told me the other day that our pudges touched and it kinda turned her off lol so ballooning my belly would make it worse. Ab workout all the way XD

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Contracted abs and PONR are inherently linked, but they aren't always mutually inclusive. What does that mean? You can still have abs engaged to 100% and not see any effect on ponr what do ever. The trouble is that the mental disconnection between the two is very very difficult, but RKs and slow core workouts that focus on the mind-muscle connection really help get there.

Here's a question i'd advise asking yourself... In the bedroom with a woman, how many positions can you imagine yourself in where you can expand your stomach to its fullest and have the core always fully relaxed....

[Paul789 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Paul789]

Hello, somebody on the previous page said they are glad they haven't had morning wood for three days and they are glad because they don't think they are healthy! Well, i'm that shocked i can't actually think of anything to write about that.

Ok. anterior pelvic tilt as it progresses worse will/can cause pelvic floor dysfunction, pe, ed, bladder problems etc etc

Remember, with APT your posterior muscles aren't tight,, they are over-stretched.
When these fight or flight muscles are over-stretched they will also cause immense problems with your nervous system.
Until you have corrected this APT it is pointless trying to edge or lower arousal.

DON't stretch your hamstrings, pelvic floor or glutes. If you stretch these already over stretched muscles what will happen is for a month or two you will have the illusion you are improving but this is only due to the extra blood you have attracted to those areas, in actual fact you are worsening the problem and you will find yourself with no libido at all.

First, you need to stop sitting, you need to keep your hip flexors in a lengthened state as much as possible. It is pointless stretching them a couple times a day if you are sat at a desk for 8 hours. You need to stand as much as possible, and move as much as possible. Use a hard ball to release your flexors and quads. After a few weeks/months of this you 'may' want to strengthen your glutes and stomach. But you have to remove your sedentary lifestyle.
To say again. if you are sat down at a desk 8 hours a day then an hour later in the gym won't reverse the damage this is doing.

As your pelvis finds its natural resting place. you will find as a consequence of this your libido will return, your morning erections and your pe will start reversing.

Again, edging with muscle imbalances is just a pointless exercise.

When your apt is completely a thing of thr past then stretching hamstrings, pf etc can be great, but not with APT.

[Paul789 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Paul789]

80% of this treatment is stretching the correct muscle and letting other muscles relax.
When you give yourself the correct treatment you will actually be amazed at how quickly you will see results.

[Paul789 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Paul789]

oh also, somebody just said contracted abs and ponr are linked and yes they are. That is because contracted abs are yanking upwards already overstretched muscles, so any disfunction you have will be worse.
What you have is think of an elastic band that has been stretched and stretched and stretched and now it is weak and and not working as it should. Well, the last thing you would do is stretch any further and this is what you are doing when you stretch the hammies/glutes and pf.
Anyway, try what i say and see the results for yourself.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Hello, somebody on the previous page said they are glad they haven't had morning wood for three days and they are glad because they don't think they are healthy! Well, i'm that shocked i can't actually think of anything to write about that.

Ok. anterior pelvic tilt as it progresses worse will/can cause pelvic floor dysfunction, pe, ed, bladder problems etc etc

Remember, with APT your posterior muscles aren't tight,, they are over-stretched.
When these fight or flight muscles are over-stretched they will also cause immense problems with your nervous system.
Until you have corrected this APT it is pointless trying to edge or lower arousal.

DON't stretch your hamstrings, pelvic floor or glutes. If you stretch these already over stretched muscles what will happen is for a month or two you will have the illusion you are improving but this is only due to the extra blood you have attracted to those areas, in actual fact you are worsening the problem and you will find yourself with no libido at all.

First, you need to stop sitting, you need to keep your hip flexors in a lengthened state as much as possible. It is pointless stretching them a couple times a day if you are sat at a desk for 8 hours. You need to stand as much as possible, and move as much as possible. Use a hard ball to release your flexors and quads. After a few weeks/months of this you 'may' want to strengthen your glutes and stomach. But you have to remove your sedentary lifestyle.
To say again. if you are sat down at a desk 8 hours a day then an hour later in the gym won't reverse the damage this is doing.

As your pelvis finds its natural resting place. you will find as a consequence of this your libido will return, your morning erections and your pe will start reversing.

Again, edging with muscle imbalances is just a pointless exercise.

When your apt is completely a thing of thr past then stretching hamstrings, pf etc can be great, but not with APT.

There a lot of points I would agree with you Paul, but there are also a lot I would disagree. I think we've discussed some of them in previous posts. However id like to point out that we have to be realistic, most of us work or study 9-12 hours a day in sedentary offices/schools. Standing probably isn't an option for most of us, so damage control is the only thing that is realistically possible, and I would argue that even though it isn't ideal, it is definitely enough for the purposes of fixing PE which also has been proved by numerous success stories. All that's needed is patience, consistent work and the right workouts/exercises.

[Paul789 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Paul789]

Well you can only try things.
Maybe somebody could be very lucky and still be able to be sedentary for 9-12 hours a day and with exercise and consistent work be able to reverse the damage all those hours of sitting have caused.

There are other people (like me) that to be 'completely' fixed will need to change their lifestyle because the affect of being sedentary for 9-12 hours is just too much. Stretching 3/4 times a day just cannot reverse the other 9-12 hours where we are sat.

Just read England N.H.S site or a recognised physiotherapy council. APT is a massive problem now, more recognised now than ever before.

And if you have no other choice than to be sedentary which means your hip-flexors are contracted all that time then that is unfortunate.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Thanks for all information. Im going to read them later again.

My morning wood never lost. I just wake up too early for work before morning woods start. I have too much libido thats why I think that it would be healthy for me. I could get a boner easily just from a girl texting me sayin only "hi". Never had ED in my life.

I did not stretch glute or hamstring. I only stretch my Thighs and TFL. And I stretch alot.

My edging session went worsts everytime after sitting alot without stretching. And edging would went well everytime after I stretch.

And yesterday I found out that belly ballooning is the key to last as long as I want in edging.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Here's a question i'd advise asking yourself... In the bedroom with a woman, how many positions can you imagine yourself in where you can expand your stomach to its fullest and have the core always fully relaxed....

I dont have big stomach. I can imagine every position i can having sex while expanding my stomach to its fullest. But my stomach would get tired. I hope abs work out woul help.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Paul789. Im already in right track in exersicing like the way you describe for many months. And i have 3 question.

I work on standing table and reduced sitting time alot
I stretch my outer quads everyday
I stretch my TFL and hip flexors everyday
I havent strech my glute and hamstring for over a year.
I had foamroll my quads to the point I dont feel the benefit of rolling them anymore.

Im going to add abs and glute workout in next week.

Do you think glute bridge is enought for strengthening the glute? Doing weighted squat makes my outer thigh tight.

I dont feel any tightness from my inner thight or middle thight when i stretch them. I feel tighnes on outer thigh only. Is this normal?

Somebody said that strenthening hamstring is important for Pre E also. What do you think about that?

Im trying to make my routine as simple as possible. Thats the idea of this thread. I want to have will power doing them everyday and everyday for the rest of my life if needed. Im thinking in long run. I would skip hamstring workout and staying only with 1 exercise for glute and 1 exersice for abs if it is possible for fixing pre e. Thanks.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

My abs are weak as fuck. on sunday I did only about 50 reversel crunch and now I feel I need 2 day rest. I did get stomach cramp today also.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

What works?
- hip flexor, tlf and quad stretchs before edge
- belly ballooning while edging
When doing good stretches before edge, I dont need to belly ballooning with power and my belly is not getting tired at all. I can edge as long I want. Easy.

What doesnt work?
- belly ballooning without stretches
- stretchs without belly ballooning

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Huh, dry spell has ended. Met this girl at same night. Had sex with her. The sex was pitiful. I ejaculate 4 time in 5min. So sad.

Im happy that foreplay went well. The best foreplay I ever had. I made a thread about that: https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ml#post1588827

It was success. I wanst even close the PONR when she suck and masturbate me.

Now im thinking why I did succeed in the foreplay. Maybe it is stretching exercise I have done. But one different thing I did in that day was "body awareness". I just focus on my body throughout the day and during foreplay. During the intercourse I did rush and was in my head.

[petrpan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close petrpan]

Hi, were you drunk or sober?

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Hi, were you drunk or sober?

15 cl cider at 10pm. 1 shot jager at 4 am. 10x4 cl of red wine at her house 5am-7am. 7 am we start to have sex. No I wasnt drunk.