"From PE to MMO"- Minuteman's Orgasmic log

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Man,Try TAO breathing.It feels like you have current in you whole body.It's a full body orgasm.You can feel the waves in your face,hands,feet.When i say full body it means FULL BODY.

Hmm could you describe that TAO breathing or give a link to the explanation?

What you have described might be what here is claled called Rolling/Wave orgasms, a series of wave like orgasms that go trough all or your body. Not many people experienced it, so congratulations

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Had me a little masturbation today, did one DO for a good measure than ejaculated.

I noticed that i can't go into wave orgasms while standing up because i am not able to allow wave to spread while standing up. I noticed however that laying down and sitting positions are a ok, but the sitting position brings less pleasure so it boils down to lying down.

I noticed also that if i want to enter RO i have to twitch my body a little (i don't know why i just feel the need, as if i'm letting energy spread, or forcing energy to spread) and then enter a slightly body rocking motion like i'm making waves with my body. After i'm in RO then i can continue masturbating/edging while standing up and still feel the full waves.

The body jerking/twitching motion is like i'm sending a message to my body and brain that i want RO, but it must not be forced, rather it must be a consequence of my desire to spread the pleasure (I know it may sound weird, but it is a lot similar to that smiling described before).

[bulldog28 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bulldog28]

Had me a little masturbation today, did one DO for a good measure than ejaculated.

I noticed that i can't go into wave orgasms while standing up because i am not able to allow wave to spread while standing up. I noticed however that laying down and sitting positions are a ok, but the sitting position brings less pleasure so it boils down to lying down.

I noticed also that if i want to enter RO i have to twitch my body a little (i don't know why i just feel the need, as if i'm letting energy spread, or forcing energy to spread) and then enter a slightly body rocking motion like i'm making waves with my body. After i'm in RO then i can continue masturbating/edging while standing up and still feel the full waves.

The body jerking/twitching motion is like i'm sending a message to my body and brain that i want RO, but it must not be forced, rather it must be a consequence of my desire to spread the pleasure (I know it may sound weird, but it is a lot similar to that smiling described before).

Hey MM,

Today I attempted to have a DO, though bare in mind I don't regularly practice kegals. I did some edging..and even tried some ballooning. It wasn't a long session..maybe 15-20 min and as I neared PONR, I kegaled hard and held for like 15 seconds...but could still feel and see some cum dribbling out. I believe this was simply a case of my kegal not being hard/strong enough..though in another thread someone said I may have had a retro-orgasm..but I personally don't think that is the case.

I was super sensitive and my cock was still really hard..simply touching it again wanted to send me over the edge..so I know I at least had a semi-wet orgasm the first time but never had the full blown orgasm.

I brought myself to PONR a 2nd time very quickly...and again kegaled for 10-15 seconds and again a little bit dribbled out but I stayed fairly hard and super senstive. I definitely felt like my body went through 1/2 of the regular orgasm feelings....it was an interesting feeling. Again, super senstivie and I touched myself again and went over the edge and into a full orgasm...though because mini-orgasms #1 and #2 took place..I felt like the "main" one wasn't as strong. Also, I noticed as I stroked myself through orgasm on my 3rd and final one...my erection wasn't as hard as it was during #1 and #2. So not sure if my body was "coming" down from those first 2 and I didn't realize it at the time..or if this is sometimes normal.

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You are on a good road

What you had is half DO, or dribble DO, and it is a mark that you are doing it right but just haven't got the strength down.

As you loose some of the sperm your orgasms will be weaker, only when you do the clean DO will you have the almost same level orgasm as the first one. Plus the brain isn't quite used to the fact that you are preforming multiple orgasms, as you try it you will see that your erection won't be as much affected as it was here.

If you had a retro ejaculation, in most cases, you will experience the exact same thing you experience when you ejaculate but with no ejaculation. In other words you will heave "the switch" (when you suddenly lose all interest in sex and libido), you will go limp fast, and your glands will be very sensitive almost hurtful to touch.

The fact that you had been able to have ha dribble DO shows the fact that your kegels are in a good condition but need a little more practicing. I would recommend that you create some routine for your kegels and that you also implement erect kegels. Erect kegels will help you more to get down the timing and stuff, because there are a lot more precise than the regular kegels.

Also it is important not to get frustrated since you are maybe getting a little ahead of yourself (but so did I :P), just remember to return to start/stop technique, ballooning, kegels and other basic techniques from time to time, so that you can evaluate your progress and also cement the foundations of any good MMOer .

In other words don't rush to much to preform Dry orgasms because you may miss whats in between. And in between may be wave orgasms that you might stumble upon as you play with your self more, observe yourself and be gradual. And for the better overall performance learn to enjoy every moment of your edging/sex/whatever not just the finishing phase, soon you will notice that there is a good amount of pleasure between the beginning and the PONR. As you do that you will gain IMMENSE understanding of your body, witch in return will bring even more pleasure and so on

I am not doing kegels on the regular basis too, I do them when i remember. Because of that i to have dribble DO from time to time, so it would be good for me to create some work out for kegels and stick to it too

[bulldog28 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bulldog28]

You are on a good road

What you had is half DO, or dribble DO, and it is a mark that you are doing it right but just haven't got the strength down.

As you loose some of the sperm your orgasms will be weaker, only when you do the clean DO will you have the almost same level orgasm as the first one. Plus the brain isn't quite used to the fact that you are preforming multiple orgasms, as you try it you will see that your erection won't be as much affected as it was here.

If you had a retro ejaculation, in most cases, you will experience the exact same thing you experience when you ejaculate but with no ejaculation. In other words you will heave "the switch" (when you suddenly lose all interest in sex and libido), you will go limp fast, and your glands will be very sensitive almost hurtful to touch.

The fact that you had been able to have ha dribble DO shows the fact that your kegels are in a good condition but need a little more practicing. I would recommend that you create some routine for your kegels and that you also implement erect kegels. Erect kegels will help you more to get down the timing and stuff, because there are a lot more precise than the regular kegels.

Also it is important not to get frustrated since you are maybe getting a little ahead of yourself (but so did I :P), just remember to return to start/stop technique, ballooning, kegels and other basic techniques from time to time, so that you can evaluate your progress and also cement the foundations of any good MMOer .

In other words don't rush to much to preform Dry orgasms because you may miss whats in between. And in between may be wave orgasms that you might stumble upon as you play with your self more, observe yourself and be gradual. And for the better overall performance learn to enjoy every moment of your edging/sex/whatever not just the finishing phase, soon you will notice that there is a good amount of pleasure between the beginning and the PONR. As you do that you will gain IMMENSE understanding of your body, witch in return will bring even more pleasure and so on

I am not doing kegels on the regular basis too, I do them when i remember. Because of that i to have dribble DO from time to time, so it would be good for me to create some work out for kegels and stick to it too

Thanks man.

Gave it another try today...I was denied sex last night by the wife...in all honesty I was VERY surprised how hard/aroused I was last night given I had gotten off in the middle of the day via the wet DO I mentioned earlier. Well, since I didn't get off last night..I wondered if it translated into today..because I started working on edging and I simply got extremely hard..it was a weird kind of hard, like EQ 9.9 type of hard..but the downside was I was extremely sensitive. Usually if i get close to PONR, and I leave it alone its rock hard for maybe 20-30 seconds..but this time it wanted to stay at 9.9 EQ for like 2-3 minutes without me even touching it.

it was a very strange experience. I was able to do the same hard kegals that created dribbling cum, but the dribbles came out a bit easier...and in fact I went over the orgasm edge the 2nd kegal process..just wasn't able to hold it long enough.

Even tonight..was playing around with my wife and found myself getting quite hard. I wonder if its a combination of the 5G's via KingPole (well, 4G's..I don't use ginger) and the recent edging/ DO attempts.

I think the herbs are starting to play a role...but its only been a solid 10 days on them.

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

Thanks man.
I wondered if it translated into today..because I started working on edging and I simply got extremely hard..it was a weird kind of hard, like EQ 9.9 type of hard..but the downside was I was extremely sensitive. Usually if i get close to PONR, and I leave it alone its rock hard for maybe 20-30 seconds..but this time it wanted to stay at 9.9 EQ for like 2-3 minutes without me even touching it.

It did, that is why i recommend only to cumm on the second day to so that the penis remains ready and hard while erected. Though i don't recommend to abstain from ejaculating for too long (the longest period I did was a 2.5 day period of almost non stop stimulation (minus the sleep) and i was driving myself insane with pleasure, many DOs, two wave orgasms...) not only because of liquids, but in order to prevent any injury by providing your penis a well deserved down time. It is easy to get lost in pleasure and go over board so be careful. It is better to stop when it is sweetest than to stop when it is to late, i mean i don't mean to scare you since injuries from edging are less common then from PE-ing, but it doesn't hurts to be careful.


During those 2-3 minutes preform the ballooning, it is a good tool that will pleasure you and help you observe more what is happening.

Just to know a 9.9 EQ is usually called the rock/iron hard erection and it is so hard that you can't move your penis easy almost at all without some discomfort.

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

Hahah i just learned that animals use their PC muscle to wag their tails

[normalguy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close normalguy]

Hahah i just learned that animals use their PC muscle to wag their tails

Isn't it what we do when we do erect kegels?

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

Isn't it what we do when we do erect kegels?

Haha true.

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Here is a common sense way to determine how often should you ejaculate:

In general, when you ejaculate you should feel refreshed and energetic.If ejaculating leaves you feeling empty,
depressed, or exhausted, you need to increase the amount of time between ejaculations.

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I like that.

[bulldog28 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bulldog28]

It did, that is why i recommend only to cumm on the second day to so that the penis remains ready and hard while erected. Though i don't recommend to abstain from ejaculating for too long (the longest period I did was a 2.5 day period of almost non stop stimulation (minus the sleep) and i was driving myself insane with pleasure, many DOs, two wave orgasms...) not only because of liquids, but in order to prevent any injury by providing your penis a well deserved down time. It is easy to get lost in pleasure and go over board so be careful. It is better to stop when it is sweetest than to stop when it is to late, i mean i don't mean to scare you since injuries from edging are less common then from PE-ing, but it doesn't hurts to be careful.


During those 2-3 minutes preform the ballooning, it is a good tool that will pleasure you and help you observe more what is happening.

Just to know a 9.9 EQ is usually called the rock/iron hard erection and it is so hard that you can't move your penis easy almost at all without some discomfort.

ok maybe not 9.9...but I would say at least an 8.5 or 9 based on your standard above for 9.9.

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

Had an retro ejaculation this morning, it happened because it jumped from DO to DO too fast so that my last DO resulted actually in a reverse ejaculation, it made me a little grumpy. But if I go slow then it ends up getting flaccid.

I keep telling myself that when you don't feel like it, then don't do it, but my ego sees it as a sign of impotence, and then i end up half forcing myself into and edge session, half forcing my imagination to work, half forcing myself to PONR. It is hard, even though I know all this things and even know where i go wrong, i keep forgetting it.

Another thing that i found annoying is my constant lust for higher pleasure. When i do something for the first (second or sometimes third) time it gets me horny because it is new, after some time i desire something new something more, i try to enjoy the now and to cherish what i have but it seems that my mind just doesn't work that way some days, why must i be so greedy...

Not to mention that sometimes i feel that i'm emulating pleasure rather than experiencing a genuine one, and even if i feel a distant little voice telling me something like "This isn't right" "This isn't that what you want" "You should stop" "You know that you are just forcing yourself" i hope that he is lying and i just continue, and almost always end up grumpy for this or that reason. I gave some excellent advices why the hell can't i use them myself. I am my greatest enemy.

In conclusion, some days is so damn hard to be one with oneself.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

All this is part of being a normal human MM. But of course you are right ,your progress has been remarkable enjoy it.

[joeboy Member Find all posts View Profile Close joeboy]

I keep telling myself that when you don't feel like it, then don't do it, but my ego sees it as a sign of impotence, and then i end up half forcing myself into and edge session, half forcing my imagination to work, half forcing myself to PONR. It is hard, even though I know all this things and even know where i go wrong, i keep forgetting it.

That's exactly what I'm experiencing lately. Ego. And probably, the curiosity too. Too many things that I want to find out, but i only get that many chances a day. Gotta be patience i guess.