ByggD's Guide to Controlling Your Ejaculation Response

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I have a quick question, do you suggest to masterbate every 3 days? or is it better to not masterbate at all

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Nope, free if you live in developed countries with health care. Also if you don't want to wait a couple of months, you can pay for it if you got the money, and get it done tomorrow.

PS: The surgery is a requeriment if you have a tight frenulum like it or not. It's not going to get better magically.

Can you please stop commenting on this thread? You clearly are not interested in helping others and you feel like you know everything. Here, this will help: You are correct about everything. Teaching our self to be a more patient person and learning to relax and enjoy life is strictly forbidden. It is actually futile to try to improve our mental state. Stress reduction and other behavioral changes are only possible through drug intake, neurosurgery, or anything else that is popularized by pharmaceutical companies who want money. Basically, you have never been wrong and we are all stupid and you are the most intelligent person that has ever graced PEGym.

Now please, if you have nothing to contribute that is actually relevant, go find somewhere else to complain. Thanks.

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I finished this program about a two weeks ago. It was very helpful and I definitely see a difference in my arousal with sex. I lasted 10min the other day and even though I stopped 4 times my erection never got to a 9, I always managed to keep it below that, which I think helps. I am going to redo this program again, and do minor variations, but I wanted to put my input that this is definately worth trying.

Glad to hear it helped! I have confessed this before, but it is worth mentioning again considering there are more than a few people who will not read every comment, I have tried this guideline three different times. The first two times were unsuccessful. I was pretty stubborn about the way I lived my life back then. I averted psychological transformations because I thought they were for "wackos." Basically, I just figured I am who I am and I can't change much and I will allow myself to change with the experiences I encounter. Screw that noise. Why let life control me and the person I am/become? That is foolish to me. So, I decided to make a lot of changes.

Turns out, you can change yourself quite dramatically. I have. My best friend has. I have helped my parents change some of their behaviors. The problem with behavioral change is it is definitely NOT easy. It takes time, incredible effort, and you will see regressions which can be frustrating. The people who I have been unable to help have been incredibly stubborn. They don't care about changing (right now) so they don't have a reason to put forth the effort. Some of them want to change, but they want it to happen quickly and when they don't see results immediately they choose to no longer put forth the work. They are generally not honest with their self, despite them saying they evaluate their self honestly.

Basically, the guideline is still a guideline. This is not a scientific and people are free to change it as they please. But, if you are able to masturbate by yourself without porn and you do not ejaculate quickly, then that is evidence that your putting stress on yourself to last longer in bed with a partner. You must teach yourself to relax. That is only going to come with practice/experience.

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I have a quick question, do you suggest to masterbate every 3 days? or is it better to not masterbate at all

I am guessing I can substitute ejaculate where it says masturbate? If so, then yeah. Ejaculate every three days.

It is best to perform this guideline as often as possible. Consecutive days are ideal. Clearly, we are not all in a situation which we can masturbate in complete darkness alone. So, you will have to think of ways to work it into your schedule.

Things to keep in mind:
1) The reason why we start with complete darkness and no audio is because you are to focus on your body. You are trying determine your behavior just prior to ejaculation. Are you: 1) still breathing correctly, 2) relaxing your PC, glutes, abs, 3) thinking positively and telling yourself to relax, 4) are you tilting your pelvis forward creating tension? All of those things increase your chances of ejaculating too quickly.

2) We are talking about practice. After a couple of weeks of doing this you should be thinking of how you would have sex. What positions do you like. Practice them! Simulate sex as much as possible.

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Yes I am doing all of these things I was just wondering if you added the part of ejaculating for those who need to and cant not go a week without doing it and was just making sure you were saying DO IT every 3 days and not IF YOU WANT to do it every three days its ok, thank you I will post results after a few weeks.

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Yes I am doing all of these things I was just wondering if you added the part of ejaculating for those who need to and cant not go a week without doing it and was just making sure you were saying DO IT every 3 days and not IF YOU WANT to do it every three days its ok, thank you I will post results after a few weeks.

Ah, I see. Yeah, this part is basically up to you. I discourage ejaculating every time, but there is no real valid reason for that discouragement. I choose to wait about five or six days only because when I do my exercises it seems to help me see size increases when I don't ejaculate. Good work and keep it up.

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Wrong thread. I guess this will serve as a bump.

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First of all, great topic. I've been doing it for a week now and I've really noticed some improvement.
When I first came to this forum 2 weeks ago I thought I was just too sensitive, but your topic made me see it was my own excitement that kept pushing me over the edge. Today's session especially made me realize that. Every day I would increase the time, for a week. First day the PONR arrived at 3 minutes so I stopped. The next day it was a little later and the last couple days I kept bouncing up the PONR at aprox. 13 minutes.

However, today was a bummer. First time with audio stimulance and my dick was so excited it was like a minute or so before PONR. At least I learned that I have to control my arousal and that it's not a sensitivity problem. Also I noticed that I was getting way too much into the audio instead of being aware of my arousal and body. Tricky, but a learning point also.

What do you suggest I do? Keep edging for 30 minutes or so or just start the routine over with audio, like first day 3 minutes, 2nd 6 minutes, 15 minutes?

Also, Do you suggest you do this once a day, or can you do it multiple times?

Thanks.

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First of all, great topic. I've been doing it for a week now and I've really noticed some improvement.
When I first came to this forum 2 weeks ago I thought I was just too sensitive, but your topic made me see it was my own excitement that kept pushing me over the edge. Today's session especially made me realize that. Every day I would increase the time, for a week. First day the PONR arrived at 3 minutes so I stopped. The next day it was a little later and the last couple days I kept bouncing up the PONR at aprox. 13 minutes.

However, today was a bummer. First time with audio stimulance and my dick was so excited it was like a minute or so before PONR. At least I learned that I have to control my arousal and that it's not a sensitivity problem. Also I noticed that I was getting way too much into the audio instead of being aware of my arousal and body. Tricky, but a learning point also.

What do you suggest I do? Keep edging for 30 minutes or so or just start the routine over with audio, like first day 3 minutes, 2nd 6 minutes, 15 minutes?

Also, Do you suggest you do this once a day, or can you do it multiple times?

Thanks.

I suggest adding ballooning to masturbation for people that are extremely sensitive. It's pretty much rubbing your sensitive spots with your thumb in small circles. It's used for many things but one of them is to keep stimulation up when getting too excited while masturbating with full strokes. I don't know if this fits in with this thread/program... But on it's own it really helps. Also... If you are masturbating too often, too fast to porn... That is detrimental and is one of the major causes of Prem ejac.

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Thanks, I'm adding it to the sessions. I'm trying to get the pc muscle under control while doing it, but it keeps spasming unvoluntarily. Any way to fight this, except excercise?

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Thanks, I'm adding it to the sessions. I'm trying to get the pc muscle under control while doing it, but it keeps spasming unvoluntarily. Any way to fight this, except excercise?

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. Look for my posts on advanced ballooning when you get better. Real sex is the best exercise cuz u practice with the real thing. Find and read my log/journal also, and my latest post about "not doing my exercises anymore." keep doing your exercises though for sure. U have to start that way.

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PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. Look for my posts on advanced ballooning when you get better. Real sex is the best exercise cuz u practice with the real thing. Find and read my log/journal also, and my latest post about "not doing my exercises anymore." keep doing your exercises though for sure. U have to start that way.

Me and some others are experimenting with watching porn without masturbation. We will have results soon. We are assuming it will help to not get excited when we encounter real live hot girls/images/scenarios.

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Thanks. I'm now ballooning every day, it does work. I'm waiting with real sex until i can get dry orgasms, because I wouldn't last a minute yet.

Watching porn without masturbation doesn't really help me with PreE. What I did realize though is that I'm flexing the pc muscle unconciously while watching it. (I don't know if this is just me or if more people are experiencing this, if so please say so) So watching it without masturbation and keeping the pc muscle conciously relaxed will probably be good excercise.

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Thanks. I'm now ballooning every day, it does work. I'm waiting with real sex until i can get dry orgasms, because I wouldn't last a minute yet.

Watching porn without masturbation doesn't really help me with PreE. What I did realize though is that I'm flexing the pc muscle unconciously while watching it. (I don't know if this is just me or if more people are experiencing this, if so please say so) So watching it without masturbation and keeping the pc muscle conciously relaxed will probably be good excercise.

I think u need to stop regular kegels and start getting really good and used to reverse kegels. You can always go back to regular kegels later if u need to. Do you do regular kegels? Have you done them in the past? How much/long? How bout reverse kegels? I say stop watching porn all together while you do this and then later reintroduce it BUT NEVER masturbate to it EVER again. Get a woman and start having sex soon. Tell her your problem and take it slow. You need to practice with the real thing or a fleshlight I guess.

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First of all, great topic. I've been doing it for a week now and I've really noticed some improvement.
When I first came to this forum 2 weeks ago I thought I was just too sensitive, but your topic made me see it was my own excitement that kept pushing me over the edge. Today's session especially made me realize that. Every day I would increase the time, for a week. First day the PONR arrived at 3 minutes so I stopped. The next day it was a little later and the last couple days I kept bouncing up the PONR at aprox. 13 minutes.

However, today was a bummer. First time with audio stimulance and my dick was so excited it was like a minute or so before PONR. At least I learned that I have to control my arousal and that it's not a sensitivity problem. Also I noticed that I was getting way too much into the audio instead of being aware of my arousal and body. Tricky, but a learning point also.

What do you suggest I do? Keep edging for 30 minutes or so or just start the routine over with audio, like first day 3 minutes, 2nd 6 minutes, 15 minutes?

Also, Do you suggest you do this once a day, or can you do it multiple times?

Thanks.

Great to hear you are seeing improvement. Many years ago, I also thought I was hypersensitive. But, after learning a boat load (that is a technical term, haha) of information my studies, I started to see how far I could generalize my knowledge on consciousness. That information is being shared with you all here, sans the technical/research oriented information.

What you could do is what is called sensory pre-conditioning or the pre-exposure effect. I give the terms because you can research it yourself if you choose. Basically, you would listen to the audio alone for several days (pre-conditioning your consciousness so the stimuli has a weaker effect in the future). You would be fully dressed and you would just focus on yourself and the sounds of sex--which are great! After a pre-exposure period of, I think five or six days would be sufficient, you then add masturbation to your routine.

JamesMonroe has given you excellent advice here. I am all for a holistic approach and I have remained firm in my comments that this is just a guideline. I am glad he is offering his advice as well.

My suggestion to you, and anyone else who just gets really excited to when they add audio is to try the pre-conditioning. It works with everything that has been tested so I doubt it wouldn't work. The only problem would be determining how long of a pre-exposure period we would need--five/six days may not bee enough. You can blame evolution for that (our complicated nervous systems).

Everyone needs to keep in mind that you will see better results if you perform this guideline in consecutive days. Clearly, that is ideal and sometimes we just can achieve the best possible. But, more often is far better than less often. I assume that this routine needs be to done at least four days a week to be effect. And that is an absolute minimum. Basically, the more time you spend practicing the quicker you will see results. Makes sense doesn't it? If you were to study for an exam, it is best to study for about an hour or two each day for 10 days rather than trying to cram the night before. So, time is key. I need to learn to consolidate my information. Long post after long post. Ugh! Hope that helps though.