ByggD's Guide to Controlling Your Ejaculation Response

[Bobbyj Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bobbyj]

I feel ur pain cause I'm not circumsized and have thought about it and my frenulum is very sensitive to I just can't go with having my dick cut with no sex or masturbation for a month

[sweetaddict Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sweetaddict]

Hi Byggd, ive started this routing last night in an attempt to cure my problem. Yesterday I was doing the 3 minute masturbation in darkness, however I can start at fully erect, but then couldn't stay 100% erect, maybe 60-70% without kegalling or thinking about some hot, will this change, will I bet able to get 100%?

[naturesucks Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close naturesucks]

Hi Byggd, ive started this routing last night in an attempt to cure my problem. Yesterday I was doing the 3 minute masturbation in darkness, however I can start at fully erect, but then couldn't stay 100% erect, maybe 60-70% without kegalling or thinking about some hot, will this change, will I bet able to get 100%?

Yeah, this happens to me a lot. If I don't kegel, my dick doesnt get filled up completely and doesn't look as good, specially the glands, and specially since being not circumsized keeps the glans smaller than circumsized guys. If I kegel you can tell the glans get real big, and my cock gets thick. Bad news is I'll cum even faster doing so. But even if I keep it relaxed all the time, the PONR comes as fast.

[ByggD Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ByggD]

Im pretty ready to claim that they probably not. Again: I know people who are beasts at bed (no homo, I just know because i've heard girls that they've fucked talking about it). Girls would talk about how much he lasted and how hard he went and so on.
I can guarantee you, my mates don't even know what the fuck a PC muscle is, not even a Kegel. Some people simply have it by default, they don't have problems it. They never had to think about it. This is simply because their dicks didn't contain has many nerve density fibers compared to the one of the super premature ejaculator like mine, probably with chemicals on their bodies being different too. Mental factor is smaller than most people believe on here. The urge to cum simply arises within your body, it is not a matter of choice, it's just your own body acting with what he got. You can't do nothing about being always on a 9 with what you've explained if your chemicals in your body and your nerve receptors on your penis are the way they are. You can't change the software without changing the hardware, so to speak. This is why im hoping, frenulum surgery enhances my sexual stamina a lot, because it makes sense to do so. If it's not enough, then i'll have to get fully circumsized.

You are willing to claim that guys who can last long didn't learn, whether consciously or not, how to last longer in bed? Interesting. If this is true, then you view prolonging the urge to ejaculate as an innate response, which contradicts evolutionary biology. And, let's face it, evolution is as much a fact as gravitational theory.

Also, let's get to your mindset now. You wish you were a sex god, underwear model; you claim to know everything you could possibly know about your body and you consume the calories and micronutrients that promote longevity and an overall healthy lifestyle which leads to a disposition that is incredibly understanding. So, why are you here? Why aren't you out writing books and making money if you know so much. If I knew that much I would certainly be out promoting myself and making money.

Also, I have already told you several times how I feel about surgery and yourself. The best thing about this life is you get to choose how to live it. If someone wants to get a tattoo and a piercing on their cock I don't care. Choose to live life how you want. However, when you comment on a thread of mine that is related to improving self-perception, ejaculatory response, and thinking more positively I am going to care and respond because the goal is to offer advice. You get to choose whether you accept that advice or not. There we are again, you get to choose what to do.

Let's also point out your negative perception of the world. It is blatant by your moniker "naturesucks." How positive . You say, "You can't do nothing about always being on a 9 with what you've explained if your chemicals..." Provide me evidence that says humans are unable to consume certain ingredients and it doesn't effect the chemical make-up of their blood stream. Explain to all of us how this is true because you are the only one making this claim. When you make a claim with me, you must provide evidence. When I make a claim, others should require evidence as well. You then go on to say, "You can't change the software without changing the hardware." It is blatantly clear that you have made up your mind. I knew you had by the words you used when you first arrived. I even told you back then I knew you had already made up your mind.

With the human body, we must change the chemical make-up and thought process (software) before we see any changes in physical attributes (hardware). This is true with almost every behavior that leads to physical change (i.e. maturation, body building, learning new material--protein synthesis, learning to play an instrument--stronger neurons, learning to kick, shoot, throw a ball, I could go on and on). The point is, you have chosen to ignore the biological aspects and the dedication and hard work it takes to see progress. Game over. You were done before you started. Let us know how surgery goes.

[ByggD Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ByggD]

To everyone reading this, please note that this guideline is NOT guaranteed to help you. It will most likely help you, but if it doesn't you need to then make a change in your eating habits. I have already provided some information about simple carbs and what they do to your brain. But, I can't possibly help everyone. I don't have the time to help each individual. However, don't go into this thinking it won't work. If you do, you have already set yourself up for failure. Many people expect failure with difficult situations in life and because of that a large portion of those people avert the behavior altogether. It is a part of the human condition, but don't let your worrisome mind control the outcomes of the events in your life. Give yourself and honest chance to succeed here, and in other aspects of your unique human experience. It can be difficult. Hell, I already admitted that it took me three rounds of this guideline to finally see results. It took me two years to discover that I didn't give myself an honest chance. You are certainly welcome to make the same mistakes I did, but I would prefer people to save those two years of their life. Most importantly, go out and have fun. You only get one life and spending your time worrying isn't going to be fun.

Also, keep in mind, the quicker the fix the more likely the negative consequences. Below is list that is useful.

1) Surgery
2) Herbal intake--I have already mentioned ginger/capsaicin
3) Diet change--you know how easy it to limit consumption of simple carbs...very tough, especially if you are not feeling very happy
4) Lifestyle change--the negative consequences here are that you will have to give up some of your old habits...which can be incredibly difficult to change.

As everyone can see, I have only suggested the lowest risk and highest reward method (Lifestyle change). You have to change the way you perceive ejaculation and practice lasting longer. The best thing about it is the fact that this will cost you nothing other than time. Surgery is going to cost a lot of money, thus time, and it is going to cost more time as you recover from surgery. Provided that surgery was successful, of course.

[ByggD Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ByggD]

Hi Byggd, ive started this routing last night in an attempt to cure my problem. Yesterday I was doing the 3 minute masturbation in darkness, however I can start at fully erect, but then couldn't stay 100% erect, maybe 60-70% without kegalling or thinking about some hot, will this change, will I bet able to get 100%?

The best thing I can tell you is that your PRE-E is most likely psychological. If it were because of sensitivity then you would not be able to last three minutes at all. The fact that you start to go flaccid should make you feel at least a little relieved. You can beat this. It is all in your mind. Once a woman comes into the picture you get extremely excited. Somehow, you need to find out how to control that excitement. You are well on your way to overcoming this limitation.

Perhaps what you could do is have a dim light on. Maybe a nightlight in the bathroom or something like that. This will give you enough to see your own body. Keep in mind, this is only a guideline. There are so many things that could effect your arousal that it is difficult to give concrete criteria. It is somewhat like the penis exercises. You will have to find what works best for you.

Also, you are more than welcome to think of an attractive woman. Using your imagination is a great exercise. However, you must also pay close attention to your body. The purpose of being in darkness is so you can concentrate on your body. You are trying to figure out what is causing you to get excited so quickly. Obviously we know the sight of a partner laying naked on a bed while you are about to penetrate her is pretty exciting. But, there are physiological responses occurring in your own body that will tell us what you need to work on.

I kegel a lot when I am really excited. I have to focus on not kegeling sometimes. I also breath more shallow or I stop breathing altogether. This will trap tension in your body. I have also tilted my pelvis forward which causes more tension. I have flexed my lower abs or I have bent forward a bit. All of this increase the likelihood of ejaculating to quickly. Hopefully this helps.

[sweetaddict Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sweetaddict]

The best thing I can tell you is that your PRE-E is most likely psychological. If it were because of sensitivity then you would not be able to last three minutes at all. The fact that you start to go flaccid should make you feel at least a little relieved. You can beat this. It is all in your mind. Once a woman comes into the picture you get extremely excited. Somehow, you need to find out how to control that excitement. You are well on your way to overcoming this limitation.

Perhaps what you could do is have a dim light on. Maybe a nightlight in the bathroom or something like that. This will give you enough to see your own body. Keep in mind, this is only a guideline. There are so many things that could effect your arousal that it is difficult to give concrete criteria. It is somewhat like the penis exercises. You will have to find what works best for you.

Also, you are more than welcome to think of an attractive woman. Using your imagination is a great exercise. However, you must also pay close attention to your body. The purpose of being in darkness is so you can concentrate on your body. You are trying to figure out what is causing you to get excited so quickly. Obviously we know the sight of a partner laying naked on a bed while you are about to penetrate her is pretty exciting. But, there are physiological responses occurring in your own body that will tell us what you need to work on.

I kegel a lot when I am really excited. I have to focus on not kegeling sometimes. I also breath more shallow or I stop breathing altogether. This will trap tension in your body. I have also tilted my pelvis forward which causes more tension. I have flexed my lower abs or I have bent forward a bit. All of this increase the likelihood of ejaculating to quickly. Hopefully this helps.

U know what, ur absolutely correct! Years of watching porn and masturbating has taken away arousal from my imagination, getting excited just by thought should be where u want to be! I can definitely last longer on my back where the tension is minimal, but in a missionary position 3-5mins max! However, today After i finished JP's PE exercises, I went on to do this in the dark again, 3-5 times from head to mid shaft, then 1-2 times whole shaft, (2 seconds a stroke) obv the glans is where the sensitivity is, however i went on for about 6mins, and changed to 5-8 strokes, everytime i got to an 8, i told me self "come on get down to a 7" and it worked! i went on till 10mins and then stopped (as i had ejaculated yday)..... I hoping this is the first step to a longer lasting dick! However i wonder if i started going quicker would i have cum......

[naturesucks Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close naturesucks]

Let's also point out your negative perception of the world. It is blatant by your moniker "naturesucks." How positive . You say, "You can't do nothing about always being on a 9 with what you've explained if your chemicals..." Provide me evidence that says humans are unable to consume certain ingredients and it doesn't effect the chemical make-up of their blood stream. Explain to all of us how this is true because you are the only one making this claim. When you make a claim with me, you must provide evidence. When I make a claim, others should require evidence as well. You then go on to say, "You can't change the software without changing the hardware." It is blatantly clear that you have made up your mind. I knew you had by the words you used when you first arrived. I even told you back then I knew you had already made up your mind.

With the human body, we must change the chemical make-up and thought process (software) before we see any changes in physical attributes (hardware). This is true with almost every behavior that leads to physical change (i.e. maturation, body building, learning new material--protein synthesis, learning to play an instrument--stronger neurons, learning to kick, shoot, throw a ball, I could go on and on). The point is, you have chosen to ignore the biological aspects and the dedication and hard work it takes to see progress. Game over. You were done before you started. Let us know how surgery goes.

About it being innate. I meant that everyone who I know has never had any problems with it, and we all watched porn as a kid. Everyone did. So I don't get how some people on this site talk about porn fucking your shit up as if it was a clear fact, because everyone I know has watched porn and can fuck no problems.

Yeah, the proof is on my thread "I don't know what to do anymore". Read wheelbite posts. You can't reprogram your brain if you are lacking certain chemicals, so you'll learn supplements at least. Just thinking positive and training "how not to cum" is not going to magically fix anything unless you have the proper chemical balance in you first. This of course, hoping that your penis has not an insane amount of nerve density specially at the frenulum. The analogy is for example: Some people get born with lack of feel, tact on their fingertips. Like they can't feel anything because they nerve responses on there are lacking. Now you could tell this person to focus on feeling what he is touching, but it would't work because the hardware is fucked from the start. Now imagine the opposite at the penis: You recieve a shitload of pleasure. It's not my fault that it's not manageable. Everything else you said about denying evolution is nonsense and I don't know where you got that from.
And yes, nature sucks. Don't make me post images of deformed fetuses.

[naturesucks Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close naturesucks]

To everyone reading this, please note that this guideline is NOT guaranteed to help you. It will most likely help you, but if it doesn't you need to then make a change in your eating habits. I have already provided some information about simple carbs and what they do to your brain. But, I can't possibly help everyone. I don't have the time to help each individual. However, don't go into this thinking it won't work. If you do, you have already set yourself up for failure. Many people expect failure with difficult situations in life and because of that a large portion of those people avert the behavior altogether. It is a part of the human condition, but don't let your worrisome mind control the outcomes of the events in your life. Give yourself and honest chance to succeed here, and in other aspects of your unique human experience. It can be difficult. Hell, I already admitted that it took me three rounds of this guideline to finally see results. It took me two years to discover that I didn't give myself an honest chance. You are certainly welcome to make the same mistakes I did, but I would prefer people to save those two years of their life. Most importantly, go out and have fun. You only get one life and spending your time worrying isn't going to be fun.

Also, keep in mind, the quicker the fix the more likely the negative consequences. Below is list that is useful.

1) Surgery
2) Herbal intake--I have already mentioned ginger/capsaicin
3) Diet change--you know how easy it to limit consumption of simple carbs...very tough, especially if you are not feeling very happy
4) Lifestyle change--the negative consequences here are that you will have to give up some of your old habits...which can be incredibly difficult to change.

As everyone can see, I have only suggested the lowest risk and highest reward method (Lifestyle change). You have to change the way you perceive ejaculation and practice lasting longer. The best thing about it is the fact that this will cost you nothing other than time. Surgery is going to cost a lot of money, thus time, and it is going to cost more time as you recover from surgery. Provided that surgery was successful, of course.

Nope, free if you live in developed countries with health care. Also if you don't want to wait a couple of months, you can pay for it if you got the money, and get it done tomorrow.

PS: The surgery is a requeriment if you have a tight frenulum like it or not. It's not going to get better magically.

[improvements Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close improvements]

Hi !

So I'm still working on this program since the beggining of the summer, I'll post a review when I'll be done with it !

For the moment I'm at week 4 of the program, I thrust my hand while watching porn, but really slowly, as you recommend in your first post ByggD (3sec each stroke). I'm on my knees or I'm standing. I do that for 1'25h now and try to increase each session with 5 more minutes. So far I'm really happy with my improvements but I was wondering what I should do in order to improve even more :

- keep going on that path, and by that I mean only increasing the duration of each session;
- increase the speed of my strokes (as recommended in one of Pegasus post if I'm not mistaken) to get closer to the sensations of a real intercourse;
- increase the amount of mid-strokes (I'm currently on a 3 or 4 mid/2full basis);
- something else ?

Thanks for your help, and sorry for my bad English I know that I have to improve this almost as much as my sexual skills ^^

[Thrill Drill Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Thrill Drill]

Hey ByggD,

Just finished up my 7th session of your routine today. It's been a bit over 2 weeks since I started, but that's because I don't do it everyday. I tried to stay as close to your original outline as possible, but I did make some adjustments to suit my personal needs. First of all, my strokes were fast, about 2-3 strokes/second. I honestly don't know what it is, but slower strokes make me lose my erection indefinitely. Faster strokes allow me to maintain my erection, thus providing me with the opportunity to work on controlling my arousal, as opposed to spending the entire session trying to maintain an erection. Secondly, I don't do your mid-stroke/full-stroke suggestion either. Most of my strokes are mid-strokes, but I occasionally throw in a few full-strokes. The reason is that the majority of my sensitivity is in the top half of my penis, so I figure if I can control myself while stroking the top, I'll also be able to do it while the full penis is being stroked, which is true since full-strokes are even less arousing than their half-stroke counterparts. The main thing I got from your routine is that it's important to be able to recognize what causes us to ejaculate prematurely, and how can we fix those problems? Over the past 7 sessions, I've gone from barely being able to last 5 minutes of continuous stroking to being able to go 30 minutes without much difficulty at all. Kegels and reverse kegels are probably the most important physical aspects of the whole thing, as you have to be able to recognize the appropriate time for both of them. Your form/how your body is positioned is also quite crucial. Pelvis forward and legs spread far apart are going to lead to ejaculation quicker than you think. Breathing properly is also a necessity. For me (and as I'm sure, most other people as well), the psychological aspect was a lot more difficult/important than the physical one. I created my own "arousal scale". Although I feel it is necessary to be able to identify how high up your arousal is, I feel that being able to recognize that wasn't doing me any good in lowering in (I don't mean to say it won't work for you or anyone else, just that it didn't for me). My scale only has two numbers: 0 and 10. When I kegel, I approach the PONR quicker and my arousal starts rising. In my mind, I imagine my scale )which is a lot like a thermometer), and the red line in the middle is going up. I take a deep breath and reverse kegel, and visualize the line going down. More often than not, my arousal decreases with it. Kgelign while stroking highers arousal, whereas stopping and then kegeling quickly lowers it and brings me away from the PONR. Reverse kegels, whether done while stroking or while stationary are used to lower arousal/take away from the PONR. If my EQ is at the right place, I'm away from the PONR and my arousal is at the perfect level, then, in my head, I'll start saying "one Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi etc.." while at the same time visualizing the names and faces of the teachers I had in that particular grade in school. Works extremely well for me, because it takes my mind off what I am doing. Also, I have seen some pretty nasty things, both in porn and in real life, so that kind of stuff is good when you want to force the erection out of you. Unorthodox? Yeah, maybe. Effective? Absolutely. It is my belief that what I'm doing is the best thing for me, and that the whole purpose of your guide isto get us to recognize our arousal, what sets it off, and how to control it. I feel that is what I am accomplishing in my sessions. Just wanted to let you know and get your insight.

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What is a bump? Does that mean you feel like this thread should be bumped to the beginning again to be looked at?

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I finished this program about a two weeks ago. It was very helpful and I definitely see a difference in my arousal with sex. I lasted 10min the other day and even though I stopped 4 times my erection never got to a 9, I always managed to keep it below that, which I think helps. I am going to redo this program again, and do minor variations, but I wanted to put my input that this is definately worth trying.

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What is a bump? Does that mean you feel like this thread should be bumped to the beginning again to be looked at?

Yes.