ByggD's Guide to Controlling Your Ejaculation Response

[bauhaus Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bauhaus]

hey new to the forum and kudos to the op for an excellent post!

Background i've suffered from bad PE all my life, literally 30 secs - 1min if i'm lucky. Its really messed with my life, means sex life is next to non existent as i don't have the confidence around women and I know a lot of this is due to my PE problem. I'll get into situations where I could sleep with girls then don't out of fear of embarrassment!

Done 5 session so far using the techniques listed by the op did 15 mins, 20, 25, back to 20 (bummer) then just done 30 mins. No the problem i had was frankly getting bored around the 20 min mark and starting to go flaccid. So tonight at the 20 mark added in audio only and wow what a difference it made instantly to arrousal levels, took me a couple of edges between 20-25 mins to get control over it but think i'll do this from now on and try and slowly extend the time using audio. Tried doing keygels for the first time as well and pretty much stopped the ejaculation about 75% which i was quite chuffed with for the first go, i train alot in the gym so guess there's some strength there already.

Keep up the posts and hopefully i'm on the road to recovery of sorts!

[aka69 Member Find all posts View Profile Close aka69]

ByggD,

I had a question, I just started the routine currently. I'm going onto day 3 and what I was wondering is that you say to ejaculate every 3 days, if I get to the 10 minute mark and don't cum yet, should I just stop? or should I keep going until I do?

[ByggD Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ByggD]

basically what i find when im going at it for the first 8-9 mins or so i have a 70%-80% hard cock.

the problem i always find when im just about to climax (not that i do with this course) my cock gets really hard and twitching. for the last 2 mins or so.

this is what i find makes the difference between the fact of wanking and feeling happy and just carrying on. than when im really hard and trying to fight off the feeling. im trying to just go with it and that seems to help but i do feel that there is a way to keep my cock at 70% i would find it alot easier to keep on going for as long as i like.

of course im only on day 5 so far so ive got a long way ahead but i thought id just ask you guys to see if you know any info on the subject.

do you think this is normal and itll get better with time? or is there anything i can do to help?

thanks in advance!

Here is what you MUST DO. You have to consciously figure out what is causing this. For examples, is it when you pull your penis down, up, left, or right? Is it when you squeez harder than normal? If it is when you are getting a 100% erection then that means your frenulum is becoming more sensitive.

Practice breathing with your diaphram...accentuated breaths what lift your shoulders up and tightens your inner abs slightly. Unfortunately, I can't quite explain how to do this. Because our bodies do respond slightly differently you will have to determine how to manipulate your body to react how you want to.

When you step outside of your comfort zone (level 7) then you need to stop masturbating and start ballooning. This will continue the stimulation but at a lower intensity. What you also can do is to tell yourself "It's no problem." Tell your self that. Why: when you are talking with friend and something comes up and they have to leave or stop the conversation you generally say "It's no problem." Tell your body that this isn't an issue. After all, it really isn't a big deal.

You want to know what a big deal is? A grizzly bear staring at you when you have no way to defend yourself. That is a big deal. Most experiences in life are not a problem at all. Humans tend to exaggerate their limitations and create problems for their self. You are in control of your world.

So you are masterbating and you are getting close to ejaculating you STOP COMPLETELY for a moment and tell yourself "it is no big deal." Then start ballooning 3-5 seconds later. Unless your or another persons life is in danger, then it really isn't a big deal. No worries. (If you notice, as you tell yourself this more and more you will naturally build confidence because you are conditioning your brain to percieve this even as a normal circumstance. It is, after all, no big deal. Pretend like you have been to this mental state before).

[ByggD Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ByggD]

hey new to the forum and kudos to the op for an excellent post!

Background i've suffered from bad PE all my life, literally 30 secs - 1min if i'm lucky. Its really messed with my life, means sex life is next to non existent as i don't have the confidence around women and I know a lot of this is due to my PE problem. I'll get into situations where I could sleep with girls then don't out of fear of embarrassment!

Done 5 session so far using the techniques listed by the op did 15 mins, 20, 25, back to 20 (bummer) then just done 30 mins. No the problem i had was frankly getting bored around the 20 min mark and starting to go flaccid. So tonight at the 20 mark added in audio only and wow what a difference it made instantly to arrousal levels, took me a couple of edges between 20-25 mins to get control over it but think i'll do this from now on and try and slowly extend the time using audio. Tried doing keygels for the first time as well and pretty much stopped the ejaculation about 75% which i was quite chuffed with for the first go, i train alot in the gym so guess there's some strength there already.

Keep up the posts and hopefully i'm on the road to recovery of sorts!

Glad to hear you are making progress. As I mentioned in my last post, you can tell yourself that it is no big deal. So, you are masturbating and you are starting the audio and you get more aroused, stop take some deep breaths (breathe from your stomach...lift your shoulders) and tell yourself "it is no problem." Rather than give yourself a command like "Relax" just take note of the situation and tell yourself everything is fine. It is no big deal. Really, it isn't. Some individuals may make it a big deal but that is an emotional response. The actual stimuli is nothing new, it isn't life threatening, and certainly should elicit fear or anxiety. So, tell yourself just that. Then start masturbating again and when you get close to cumming tell yourself, again, that it is no big deal.

Cheers

[ByggD Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ByggD]

You can choose to do what you want. Basically, you are training yourself to "cum on command." You consciously decide when you want to cum.

I encourage you to extend past your goal before you cum. So, if you really want to cum then go ahead, but make yourself work for it. Don't just start stroking like crazy to get it over with. This is a reward to your nervous system. Prolong the ejaculation and your nervous system, over time, will come to understand that it shouldn't release the neurotransmitters.

Personally, if I was done in 10 minutes and say, the phone rang because that hot chick from the coffee shop is calling then I would not force myself to cum.

This brings up a point, you should make a conscious decision BEFORE you even start as to whether you want to cum or not. If you want to, then prolong it as long as you can. If you don't want to then masturbate for 10 minutes (or however long) and simply stop. If you have ejaculation on the mind then a nice cold shower or a cold cup of water on you penis will help a bit.

Whatever you do, don't give into temptation. Control is key.

[Phase2 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Phase2]

I've been doing this exercise for the last few days now, must say it's definitely showing me that I have quite a big reliance on sexual stimuli in order to get erect, which is a bit of an inconvenience when trying to stay at a 7. However, I shall keep at it, hopefully after a few weeks I'll break the connection, have less of a dependence on porn to get me aroused and can work towards my time goals. Cheers ByggD great article

[closed013 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closed013]

And how about the guys who never want to have sex, thus, the lasting longer does not apply, is all this necessary? For someone who simply wants to edge as part of their PE routine, of course.

Everman.

[Smu Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Smu]

Hey there ByggD, great advice and program here!
I came here with a question, what is your opinion on porn nowadays?

Majority (if not everybody here) are anti-porn and I have been staying off porn aswell.
But you really seem to have good understanding about how the brain works and stuff, so will watching porn have effecton premature ejaculation? If so, what, for better or worse?
This kinda baffles me, because there seem to be two sides for porn. Other side seems to make people harder to cum during sex (for example getting used to high amount of mental stimuli via porn). and the other side fastens prem ejac (Twisted perspective on sex, looking at the porn males go on and on ad on without cumming could cause performance anxiety).

This question is mainly aimed at ByggD, but others feel free to respond your thoughts too.

[Cantona7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cantona7]

@Smu
I don't think ByggD is active anymore. And more in moderation can be useful, but when abused Premature Ejaculation and Performance Anxiety is what you get out of it. People who have severe cases of Premature Ejaculation, Performance Anxiety, Hypersensitivity, Over-arousal--they try to stay off porn completely. Also, people who have mild case of ED benefit from cutting out porn completely.

As long as you can have an erection from physical stimulation or your imagination, porn won't harm you as much. But when you rely on porn to get erection, over time it can have some serious consequences.

Cris

[Fantersam Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Fantersam]

If you are at say, day 10 and you feel like cumming within a few minutes then stop completely until your erection goes away. You are essentially punishing your penis for wanting to cum to soon. Then, when your penis is flaccid, get the guy up again and go at it. Don’t fall into the temptation to ejaculate quickly though. Control your behavior.

As you are thrusting if you notice some intense pleasure immediately then stop completely until your erection goes away. And start again

Why should I stop masturbating when my arousal is raising? I thought I should tell myself to get back to 7? :S
Do I always have to stop masturbating until I'm flaccid again when my arousal is raising?

[longrodten Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close longrodten]

I believe it's going to best to replace the "porn" in ByggD's system with a willing and friendly female sex partner, gf or wife.

[TheSperminator Member of the Month Oct 12 Find all posts View Profile Close TheSperminator]

This thread is pure gold!

[jcarrier Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jcarrier]

If you can't get a hard rock erection, but only a 75% only, will this work? The issue is that when stroking the urge to blow the load comes in a minute. Many times even with the dick at 50% erection. So I guess to try to gain more time you just have to edge and edge and edge? Tough thing when instead of focusing on controlling PEjac you have first to try to convince the penis to get and stay hard....

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Edging and a kegel /reverse kegel routine will help with eq and the physical side of pre e.

[jcarrier Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jcarrier]

Pesagus, been doing them for 3 weeks now. Have not noticed any substantial improvements yet - those rock hard, up erections are still missing.