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I try to do reverse kegel. I inhale and at the same time I try to imagine the balloon expanding somewhere around that place where my penis gets out of my body, sometimes I feel something expanding, at the same time I feel some kind of tickling in that place. I exhale, my imaginary balloon gets smaller, I epeat that for 4-5 times, and boom, I have a 30-45% hard erection, which stay there for another 3 reps, and that disappears. (I try to hold RK for 6sec, and rest for 6 sec as well.)
Does this sounds like RK, or more like K, because I know if i hold regular kegel for some time I can get an erection, and a hard one, but this thing I get doesn't look like that.
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That's an RK, you're doing them right.Originally posted by Sonic24 View PostI try to do reverse kegel. I inhale and at the same time I try to imagine the balloon expanding somewhere around that place where my penis gets out of my body, sometimes I feel something expanding, at the same time I feel some kind of tickling in that place. I exhale, my imaginary balloon gets smaller, I epeat that for 4-5 times, and boom, I have a 30-45% hard erection, which stay there for another 3 reps, and that disappears. (I try to hold RK for 6sec, and rest for 6 sec as well.)
Does this sounds like RK, or more like K, because I know if i hold regular kegel for some time I can get an erection, and a hard one, but this thing I get doesn't look like that.
You can pump blood in and then hold it there with a kegel but you can also push blood in with reverse kegels.
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Nowadays I am doing edging session, which lasts for about 30minutes. During these sessions I arrive at PONR about 4-8 times, I noticed that it is harder for me to last sitting or laying, than standing or kneeling. When I feel PONR approaching I try to do light front RK, together with inhale, because somehow inhaling helps me concentrate on front RK more... So I try to hold it RK for 5-10 seconds, while breathing deeply, and in the beginning that helps me, but after about 15minutes I reach the point when I probably get more turned on, and when I try to do front RK, it doesn't really help, then I try to do it harder, then my penis gets filled with a burst of blood and becomes more sensitive, which makes everything even worse, so I have to stop stroking for a while, and hold RK, If I feel that I might ejaculate, then I hold regular kegel, and after 5-10 seconds I turn back to RK for a few seconds, hoping that will relax my muscles. Anyway once I reach that ~15min period, when I get more aroused then PONR approaches more often. Anyway I cope with my self and end my session without ejaculating for 30-35minutes. (I do ejaculate every 3 days though).
My question is why does RK doesn't help me to deal with PONR when I feel it coming? Wrong timing, short experience of RK or anything else?
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The harder you do an RK during stimulation the more sensitive you'll become.
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Thanks for your answers imac
Not not so lovely part....
Today, I lost a track of time and end up with 1h edging session together with audio stimulation it is no very usual for me, because audio stimulation isn't my strong side
I also tried few things, I am not sure if they helped me, but maybe I believed they were helping me. I tried to keep my eyes open, and when I get a feeling that I might get a little too aroused I moved my feet randomly (I was reading Arousal thread, and one guy said that it helps him, so I thought why shouldn't I give it a try)... Anyway, I also noticed that if I get more aroused my testicles lifts up, and if I get back to normal rithm it hangs down, till I become more aroused again. So i thought maybe there is way to learn how to level testicles, so I could let it hang and maybe I wouldn't get so aroused. It is just an idea, but who knows maybe that would help...
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They lift up due to muscle tension and they hang low when your PC muscle is relaxed. It's all to do with the cremaster muscle.
Here's an article about testicle movement.
Testicle Movements ? And What They Mean « Modern Love: Sex & Relationships
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I have been learning to RK for a few months. Initially, i was performing front RK and rear RK at the same time due to lack of ability to isolate. About two weeks ago i developed isolation capability. I was thrilled! So, i began a 20-30 minute routine a couple weeks ago of 100% front reverse kegels(some long holds some short quick holds all done in a random fashion) along with 20-30 minutes of the pillow stretch (later on in the day) which we have been discussing here. I do no voluntary regular kegal exercises because i have PE and they are counterproductive.
Yesterday during sex, i found myself kegel spasming uncontrolibly at initial penetration. As my EQ improved a few moments into sex the spasms intensfied and i was quickly fighting PONR. I had to pull out and try to dial arousal back to a 7. I could not dial myself back. A few minutes later while performing oral i ejaculated without any additional physical contact. I have been battling PE for about a year and this occurance was new and pretty crazy to me (ejaculating semi erect with no contact). I felt so out of control.
My questions:
1. Did my 30 minute front RK and stretch routine five days a week for the last two weeks overwork and tire out my bc muscle and put my pelvic floor way out of balance?
2. Does too much FRONT RK temporarily weaken or increase tension before it benefits the pelvic floor balance?
3. What changes should i make to my routine?
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With the amount of time you're doing Rk's and the pillow stretch then you could be over doing it, I would lessen the time you do both exercises.
Too much RK's can weaken the muscle and the more weak a muscle is the less control you have over it, this could cause it to spasm.
Also ask yourself these questions,
How was my breathing?
How high was my mental arousal?
both these things could of contributed to it.
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Hi imac,Originally posted by imac View PostWith the amount of time you're doing Rk's and the pillow stretch then you could be over doing it, I would lessen the time you do both exercises.
Too much RK's can weaken the muscle and the more weak a muscle is the less control you have over it, this could cause it to spasm.
Also ask yourself these questions,
How was my breathing?
How high was my mental arousal?
both these things could of contributed to it.
do you recommend 1 day meditative reverse kegels for 15mins and 1 day off?
Or if you do 1day 50 RK's + 20*5sec RK holds & 5*30sec RK holds, 2nd day meditative reverse kegels for 15mins (weekends off, is that too much?) :/
If anyone has good answer what is good to not over train them or don't train then enough?
Thank you and kind regards.
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my story:a month ago, I ve quit porn since I think it isnt good and could give me troubles later(i have no ed problems at all)and I ak about quitting masturbation, but I want to have control over ejaculation first.On september I started RK and tryed to avoid kegeling through the day and through edging, Ive learned to not kegel at all either during edging even with porn and throughtl the day.I could last without porn as long as I wanted, but max 5 mins with porn.I am a virgin.But now I have trouble to last without porn, I have control over kegeling.what is going on?
I used to cum almost daily, but now I cum 3 times a week.
today I have done many many RK ad when I tryed edging without any stimuli, just lub and medium-tight grip , I ve reached ponr very quickly, no voluntary and no involuntary kegels.i wasnt aroused.Could be hormonal things?I dont wanna eat drugs at all, only fruits vegetables or other natural common things.Maybe am I too stressed to have control over PE?
if I stop ejaculation, only edging, what will happen?
sorry for my bad english(I am 18)
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Originally posted by searching View PostHi imac,
do you recommend 1 day meditative reverse kegels for 15mins and 1 day off?
Or if you do 1day 50 RK's + 20*5sec RK holds & 5*30sec RK holds, 2nd day meditative reverse kegels for 15mins (weekends off, is that too much?) :/
If anyone has good answer what is good to not over train them or don't train then enough?
Thank you and kind regards.
When doing reverse kegels only it's really hard to over train. I take the weekends as rest days just because I like to have a couple of days a week that I don't have to exercise. So 1 day on 1 day off isn't really necessary, I would just exercise through the week and rest at the weekend.
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I've addressed your post in your thread. https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ing-worse.htmlOriginally posted by meVSprej View Postmy story:a month ago, I ve quit porn since I think it isnt good and could give me troubles later(i have no ed problems at all)and I ak about quitting masturbation, but I want to have control over ejaculation first.On september I started RK and tryed to avoid kegeling through the day and through edging, Ive learned to not kegel at all either during edging even with porn and throughtl the day.I could last without porn as long as I wanted, but max 5 mins with porn.I am a virgin.But now I have trouble to last without porn, I have control over kegeling.what is going on?
I used to cum almost daily, but now I cum 3 times a week.
today I have done many many RK ad when I tryed edging without any stimuli, just lub and medium-tight grip , I ve reached ponr very quickly, no voluntary and no involuntary kegels.i wasnt aroused.Could be hormonal things?I dont wanna eat drugs at all, only fruits vegetables or other natural common things.Maybe am I too stressed to have control over PE?
if I stop ejaculation, only edging, what will happen?
sorry for my bad english(I am 18)
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