How i cured my Severe PE in a month- Comprehensive guide

[SeratoBeats Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeratoBeats]

But I don't see any relation between being a porn addict and not touching your penis for a year.

There is no reward system between the 2. If you are a porn addict and believe most of us were, all you have to do to correct yourself from this issue is to simply stop watching porn and learn proper masturbatiom happens, not refrain from it.

Masturbation is a normal and healthy thing and we need to reach our mind and body how to properly do it this is why we need to edge, not refrain from masturbation, you won't be learning anything.


Any day do what works for you. Only benefit I see no fap for are people with Ed and delayed ejaculation.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

But I don't see any relation between being a porn addict and not touching your penis for a year.

There is no reward system between the 2. If you are a porn addict and believe most of us were, all you have to do to correct yourself from this issue is to simply stop watching porn and learn proper masturbatiom happens, not refrain from it.

Masturbation is a normal and healthy thing and we need to reach our mind and body how to properly do it this is why we need to edge, not refrain from masturbation, you won't be learning anything.


Any day do what works for you. Only benefit I see no fap for are people with Ed and delayed ejaculation.

I am so happy I am not alone saying this.

[bigbookofpenis Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbookofpenis]

well for me NoFap or more specifically NoPMO (No PORN, MASTURBATION, ORGASM) makes a lot of sense from neurobiological view and PORN addiction view...and there are certainly many shared neurobiological processes for arousal in general (its all dopamin, serotonin and GABA in the end - PORN or MASTURBATION)... but i mostly agree with you guys that for PE its unnecessary and definitelly wont fix PE alone... also i totally disagree with the 90 days time frame - that for me is total bollocks... in reality the time frame is more like 6-8 months to lifetime of abstinence (google DeltaFosB accumulation)... but really lets agree we disagree and leave it at that... if you want to know how deep the rabbit hole goes on PORN addiction and neurobiology (that includes arousal pathways in general aka masturbation and orgasm) there is planty of discussion and science research as you undoubtedly know:

DeltaFosB, Neuroplasticity and Addiction | Your Brain On Porn
Pornography Addiction - Your Brain Rebalanced

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Haevn't seen research on masturbation in the absence of porn that at all convinces me.

[SeratoBeats Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeratoBeats]

I posted a thread somewhere here if you dig for it that states masturbating less frequently is good for the parasympathetic nervous system as it balances dopmaine levels and can help greatly for people with pe.

However there are no studies that state refraining from masturbatiom completely can help pe. It just dosnt make sense. How can you expect pe to just fix its self when you aren't training and your penis hasn't been used in ages? It's like not going to the gym for 2 months and expecting to go back in and lift the weights like you did prior to when you were active, it just won't happen. Your penis needs to be manually conditioned. And masturbating less frequently will allow you to still train and give your nervous system a chance to moderate it's self instead of overloading it with dopmaine over masturbating every day. Doing this will give you a healthy masturbation-life so to speak so you aren't doing it too much or too little.

Again, not touching yourself for ages will only make your penis more sensitive and when it's time for the real thing you are going to explode, you are basically shocking your entire body which in reality will give you an even bigger rush of dopamine. This is why people with de and Ed do this, not people with pe

[bigbookofpenis Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbookofpenis]

Ok guys since you decided you want to continue and persude one little guy (me) that your world view is the only correct one...

Haevn't seen research on masturbation in the absence of porn that at all convinces me.

- research is about dopamin and arousal pathways not about any concrete activity or drug you excite them... there is five million studies about dopamine and sensitization and addiction and subsequent desentization of reward circuitry with short-term reversible and long-term irreversible plasticity changes... its pretty hard to make a lab rat masturbate so other natural rewards are used like sucrose, mating with female rats, etc.

However there are no studies that state refraining from masturbatiom completely can help pe.

- read my post again, i agreed with you 2 replies back and said iam doing this to fix PORN ADDICTION

cheers

[SeratoBeats Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeratoBeats]

Yes I understand

But we already stated no fap has no relation to porn and will do nothing for helping to stop being a porn addict. Not fapping to only porn does and even then you aren't going to do this you're just going to simply not watch porn.

This is what we're trying to say lol. Did you maybe misunderstand?

[bigbookofpenis Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbookofpenis]

no fap has no relation to porn

- any kind of sexual arousal has relation to dopamine and reward system, dopamine and reward system are key players in PORN addiction... so i cant be so sure i agree with your resolute judgment to say the least...

i agree with you and pegasus that NoPMO (more accurate name than NoFap) is not helping PE but i disagree its not helping PORN addiction... and there is no way you can persuade me... full stop... i read too many science papers to know it simply all relates to each other in brain reward pathways...

[SeratoBeats Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeratoBeats]

Links please

You should look on other forums and see how porn addicts went on no fap to cure their de or Ed and ended up having pe.

Masturbating affects dopamine. Sex affects dopamine. Porn affects dopamine. But then again just about anything that makes you happy or excites you affects dopamine.

You want to stop being a porn addict? Then stop watching it! It's as simple as that. If you don't have the will power to do it then just have pe for the rest of your life.

There are many porn addicts out there. I was one of them. I woke up one day and decided I needed to stop in order to better myself, and I did. Simple as that. Not fapping will make you want to rape someone, and if that isn't possible it'll make you want to watch porn even more. And like I have stated numerous times, we are men, humans, we were born to masturbate.

Take responsibility and just stop watching porn. Buy a blocking program, do something else productive. Because I can tell you this, masturbation is one of the most sacred things in life for a man and its what makes me a man. To say masturbating is going to make you a porn addict, or going to continue to make you watch porn, which is what you are telling us based on your "I don't agree no fap won't help with porn addiction" is complete utter nonsense and is something a person with no control over their bodies would say.

You need to learn to take control of your body and be responsible. Almost nobody on these forums does no fap except for people with de or ed and its because they have taken the advice from others here and are strong enough to masturbate and still have the will power to cut the porn completely out of their lives. If you don't want to listen then fine. Do not expect any more help from me and you can join those idiots on that other forum ( most will know which one, its the "anti masturbation I'm going to reboot for 83950593 days and cream my pants every night like a 10 year old boy" site, but I won't mention the name of the site anywhere on these forums)

Sorry for being a complete dick right now but I need to be blunt as possible because I care for everyone's problems on these forums and I do not like to see people do something completely ridiculous that just does not work.

If you seriously think not touching yourself is going to stop you from watching porn well then go right ahead. You can throw edging right out the window along with your manhood. When it comes time to sleeping with a woman you better pray it is a caring woman who won't mind touching a penis and watching it explode the second it's touched

[bigbookofpenis Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbookofpenis]

thank you for your opinion i wont be replying to you anymore because i said what i said and the rest is history... everyone can read what both of us said and decide for themself where they want to stand... there was enough said by both sides and links posted to make further research and informed decision (+ there is always google)... no hard feelings Serato and i dont want to sound patronizing, i just dont have time for this discussion right now... live and let live...

[SeratoBeats Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeratoBeats]

All the best I hope your beliefs help you in any way they can

No hard feelings

[bigbookofpenis Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbookofpenis]

Cheers

[ammonite Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ammonite]

ammonite: please could you describe the difference between wrong edging and edging optimal for PE cure ?

i read these two guides:

Edging - Penis Exercise For Size and Hardness
Edging Toward MMO

they pretty much describe edging in similar terms... only the second guide adds K/RK

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Those are excellent resources, though the problem is largely evident in the titles; they are not specifically aimed at pre e. I have compiled what I think to be proper pre e edging here:

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...aculation.html

[bigbookofpenis Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigbookofpenis]

thanks for the thread...

[jnetten Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jnetten]

Is there any harm in doing these when at like only 20-30% EQ instead of flaccid? I feel i get a better stretch when there is at least SOME chub down there