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[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

I totally agree about clamped edging. I actually did continuous clamps up to an hour with edging and squeezes throughout. I think it is the best for girth gains. Actually thinking about getting back into clamping, but probably 20-30 minute sets with continuous edging and manual squeezes. I've come up with what I call a reverse sliding ULI that is seems very effective. Great engorgement!
You're doing a very aggressive workup. Hope your PIs stay great for you. Keep up the good work!
What type of cock ring are you using after your clamping?

Yeah, I don't see how anything can compare to clamped edging for girth gains. I immidiately started seeing huge gains after I switched from pumping to clamped edging. Wow, one hour??? It would be impossible to not gain girth if doing one hour sessions, lol.
Yeah my workup is definitely over the top. But since I have the time available and my PI's are holding strong, I say why not.
I'm actually not using a cock ring. I say cock ring for simplicity. I use cut up segments of a LGHanger silicone sleeve and rubber bands which allows me to adjust the tightness based on how my unit feels. I do want to look into getting an actual steel ring in the future though.

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Haha...you're the first person I've seen write what I feel each morning doing my bundled stretches...that nice tingly/itchy feeling in my shaft. I love the way my shaft feels when doing my bundled circle stretches...it's even better than my regular bundled stretches. I love bundled stretches!

Have you seen a lot of tunica gains from doing bundled stretches? I'm pretty new to the exercise, but it seems like it's really hitting the tunica. Just think about it, the tunica doesn't know if it's being pulled straight out in a linear fashion or in a coiled fashion... it only knows if it's experiencing tension, and if the tension is too much, an adaptive response will be induced (growth).
I'm going to have to try out the bundled circle stretches, I haven't done them yet. Same with the sliding ULI, your gains are pretty remarkable so you definitely know what you're talking about.

[getinbig Senior Member Member of the Month March 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close getinbig]

Yeah, I don't see how anything can compare to clamped edging for girth gains. I immidiately started seeing huge gains after I switched from pumping to clamped edging. Wow, one hour??? It would be impossible to not gain girth if doing one hour sessions, lol.
Yeah my workup is definitely over the top. But since I have the time available and my PI's are holding strong, I say why not.
I'm actually not using a cock ring. I say cock ring for simplicity. I use cut up segments of a LGHanger silicone sleeve and rubber bands which allows me to adjust the tightness based on how my unit feels. I do want to look into getting an actual steel ring in the future though.

Clamped edging rocks! I gradually built up to a little over 60 minutes...they were great but probably they were just too long...but to be maximally erect and really engorged for an hour was so much fun...especially with all the edging.
Hydeaway85 is the one who got me into clamped edging...and Kickinthemebs and I started this interesting adventure into long continuous clamps. I think if you're careful and watch your PIs and things like sensation and coolness, it's very safe to do long clamps. I would from time to time back off a click or two. I am probably going to get back into clamping since I'm not that impressed with bathmate right now. Probably 20-30 minute clamps with lots of edging and squeezes.
I will use a strip of my LG sleeve as a girth band after my clamping sessions. I haven't done that but it seems like a great idea.
I also use the LG sleeve on my Phallosan instead of the condom sleeves. The LG sleeve provides suction that never gives up no matter what I'm doing.
I also leave my LG sleeve on in the morning after I take off my Phallosan bell. The silicone sleeve on my shaft enables me to get an incredible stretch...and the bundled stretches are great with that sleeve on...fast bundling by twirling the silicone sleeve and then an amazing bundled stretch.

[getinbig Senior Member Member of the Month March 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close getinbig]

Have you seen a lot of tunica gains from doing bundled stretches? I'm pretty new to the exercise, but it seems like it's really hitting the tunica. Just think about it, the tunica doesn't know if it's being pulled straight out in a linear fashion or in a coiled fashion... it only knows if it's experiencing tension, and if the tension is too much, an adaptive response will be induced (growth).
I'm going to have to try out the bundled circle stretches, I haven't done them yet. Same with the sliding ULI, your gains are pretty remarkable so you definitely know what you're talking about.

My wife is the one who's been commenting on how big I've gotten...especially girth. She and I both love the increased girth from when I started. I won't measure until I've finished 2000 hours with my Phallosan...so there's lots of stretching ahead before that measurement...I'm only approaching 850 hours but I sleep with my Phallosan on everynight for about 7-8 hours and them wear the belt for another 3 or 4 hours. The Phallosan study showed best results with 11 hours/day wear.
Nighttime wear with a leash is how I'm getting a great downward stretch with tension in the mid yellow through the night. Great suction with the silicone sleeve.

[getinbig Senior Member Member of the Month March 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close getinbig]

BTW, check with Jockinthebox when you think you want to get a steel cock ring. He helped many of us with sizing. I have a horseshoe steel cock ring that I like...but I don't think I could get it on after a clamping session...I am going to try a girth band like you're doing first...

[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

Clamped edging rocks! I gradually built up to a little over 60 minutes...they were great but probably they were just too long...but to be maximally erect and really engorged for an hour was so much fun...especially with all the edging.
Hydeaway85 is the one who got me into clamped edging...and Kickinthemebs and I started this interesting adventure into long continuous clamps. I think if you're careful and watch your PIs and things like sensation and coolness, it's very safe to do long clamps. I would from time to time back off a click or two. I am probably going to get back into clamping since I'm not that impressed with bathmate right now. Probably 20-30 minute clamps with lots of edging and squeezes.
I will use a strip of my LG sleeve as a girth band after my clamping sessions. I haven't done that but it seems like a great idea.
I also use the LG sleeve on my Phallosan instead of the condom sleeves. The LG sleeve provides suction that never gives up no matter what I'm doing.
I also leave my LG sleeve on in the morning after I take off my Phallosan bell. The silicone sleeve on my shaft enables me to get an incredible stretch...and the bundled stretches are great with that sleeve on...fast bundling by twirling the silicone sleeve and then an amazing bundled stretch.

I've read through meb's log a bit as well as your's, and the extent of the work you two have put in is pretty impressive. I do need to take some time and and fully read them, as well as many of the other logs from credentialed members. There's a ton a knowledge and experience available in them... I need to utilize it.
Yeah, I'm over pumping....lol. I think it may have its place down the road for me in a more adavanced girth routine, such as suppersetting with intense manuals. But I'll definitely move up to an intense clamping routine like yours once I switch my focus to girth. I really want to focus on length right now as gaining length was what initially brought me to PE but also due to the common theory that length is harder to gain with larger girths.
Believe it or not I've used the LGH silicone sleeve in a similar way for stretches in the past. What I would do is use a sleeve that covers my whole shaft, and then grab opposite ends of the sleeve and pull it in opposing directions, it seemed to hit my tunica fairy well.
I'm interested to see how the phallosan works out for you considering you've already gained nearly 2 inches. You would think that with the level of stretch provided by the device, it wouldn't be very effective in the later stages of growth.

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BTW, check with Jockinthebox when you think you want to get a steel cock ring. He helped many of us with sizing. I have a horseshoe steel cock ring that I like...but I don't think I could get it on after a clamping session...I am going to try a girth band like you're doing first...

I do hope that passive use of the phallosan while sleeping yields some results for you. When I used my phallosan, I wore it like there was no tomorrow, but my glans are still recovering from it. I have a couple of raised spots near my urethra now that get easily darkened/bruised when blood flow is impaired. That constant vacuum from the phallosan should used cautiously.

Yeah I should get with him soon. The girth bands are doing the job for me right now but I remember hearing that Steel rings are the best way to go as far as edema and such. I plan on running a steel ring continuously trhoughout the day when I switch to a girth centered routine.

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11-13-2016

Morning:
20 minutes low grip stretching (all directions)
25 minutes 50% erect low grip stretching
20 minutes bundled stretching
Straight into extender, cycled with ADS until evening session (7 hours in extender, 2 hours in ADS)

Evening:
20 minutes edging
40 minutes 100% erect jelqing with Uli stretches
15 minutes clamped edging (with squeezes and kegels)
Straight into cockring for 1.5 hours then slept naked

Supplements:
Same regimen

Observations:
My unit is still getting pretty sore along the shaft while in the extender. It will get "hot" sensations or sometimes "cold" sensations down my shaft when it starts getting uncomfortable. I have to take breaks around every thirty minutes towards the end of the day. If I push it too far, the discomfort will continue even after switching into an ADS which indicates I'm really pushing my unit to its elastic limit during the daytime and not giving the tissues enough time to catch up. I don't want the tissues to catch up, I want them to grow. They can catch up while I sleep when my hormone profile is in it's most optimal state and when I'm in the post-girthwork engorged state, where blood delivery is ample.
I think I may need to condense my length workouts. It seems as though I get less focused when I allot myself a large window of time.
I also think I'm going to switch to a repetition based scheme for my jelqing instead of time based.

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11-14-2016

Morning:
5 minutes BTC warmup
10 minutes low grip stretching (all directions)
20 minutes 50% erect low grip stretching
5 minutes bundled stretching (circles, SU, SO, SD)
Straight into extender for 3 hours

Afternoon:
20 minutes bundled stretches
Straight into extender then cycled with ADS (5 hours extender, 2 hours ADS)

Evening:
10 minutes edging
38 minutes 100% erect upward jelqing with Uli stretches- 35 jelqs (10seconds each), 3 Uli stretches (30 seconds each)
20 minutes clamped edging with squeezes and kegels
Straight into cockring for 2 hours with heating pad

Supplements:
Same regimen
I have been eating much more nutritient rich diet for the past three days. Lots of salads with whole eggs, nuts, and various vegetables and fruits.

Observations:
The bundled stretching seems to be much more effective when I'm slightly erect, maybe 10-15% erect.
I had a fairly strong girth session. My EQ was quite high the whole duration. I took a rough measurement of my girth beneath the glans during the jelqing and I was at roughly 5.5 inches, well above my normal girth.
I was able to really push the clamping and go up to 20 minutes. I felt like I could have kept going after the 20 minute mark.
My post workout engorgement was phenomenal, I would rate it a 9.5/10, I need to achieve this level of relative engorgement after every girth session.

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11-15-2016

Morning:
Extender for 3 hours before length session
20 minutes BTC stretchi
10 minutes low grip stretching (all directions)
20 minutes 50% erect low grip stretching
10 minutes bundled stretching (circles, SU, SO, SD)
Straight into extender for 5 hours

Evening:
15 minutes edging
10 minutes 100% erect jelqing (12 jelqs, roughly 13 seconds each)
10 minutes clamped edging with squeezes
Immidiately into an extender for 1 hour

Supplements:
Same regimen
Took 400mg rhodiola in the afternoon due to fatigue

Observations:
I used a rolled up 5" segment of a LGH silicone sleeve positioned half way up my shaft to use as a grip for the BTC stretching (thank you getinbig for the idea). The sleeve allowed to grip my shaft at the base substantially better and I was actually able to work the BTC angle to fatigue. I had given up on BTC stretching weeks ago due to not being able to get a sufficient grip so this new technique is a game changer.
I was real tired due to over use of caffeine and was struggling to maintain an erection during my girth session. I had to dumb my girth session. I felt that hopping into a cockring wasnt going to do much for me so I used this as an opportunity to use my extender while in the slightly engorged state after the session, in hopes of applying traction to the erectile tissues.

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11-16-2016

Morning:
20 minutes BTC stretching
10 minutes low grip stretching (all directions)
Five, one minute held 70% erect low grip stretches
10 minutes bundled stretching (circles, SU, SO, SD)
Straight into extender for 8 hours

Evening:
20 minutes edging
40 minutes 100% erect jelqing
15 minutes clamped edging with squeezes
Cockring for 2 hours

Supplements:
Same regimen

Observations:
Going to dial back the edging warm up as my ability to hold an erection starts dropping around the 40 minute mark in the workout. I'm thinking a good 5 minutes of edging will suffice and then jump directly into jelqing. I'm wasting precious erect time with the edging. EQ was decent for the first 40 minutes of the session but then dropped.
I've got to knock out this poor EQ issue....I'm going to commit myself to fully conditioning my PC muscles. I need to research this field but I at the minimum am implementing hundreds of kegels per day starting immediately (I have been doing virtually no kegels). I am going to start incorporating more nitrate rich foods through out the day, I'm thinking arugula...

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11-17-2016

Morning:
15 minutes BTC stretching
10 minutes low grip stretching (all directions)
Five, one minute held 70% erect low grip stretches
7 minutes bundled stretching (circles, SU, SO, SD)
Straight into extender for 7 hours

Evening:
5 minutes edging
30 minutes 100% erect jelqing
15 minutes clamped edging with squeezes
Cockring for 2 hours

Observations:
EQ is still low but improving. I'm going to really crack down on improving my EQ....
Girth is really growing right now, length not so much though. Just measured 5.25" below the glans and 5.50" at the base. I may need to back off of the erect work

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11-18-2016

Morning:
15 minutes BTC stretching
15 minutes low grip stretching (all directions)
Straight into extender for 7 hours

Evening:
1 hour hanging SD at 7.5 pounds
5 minutes edging
30 minutes 100% erect jelqing
10 minutes clamped edging with squeezes
Cockring for 1 hour

Supplements:
Same regimen. Included horny goat weed and garlic extract.

Observations:
My skin was a little irritated so I shortened the morning length work, but was able to make up by hanging later in the day. I took multiple breaks to take the dome off in order to inspect my glans, and everything held up fine. I am going to ease back into hanging very cautiously...I want glans irritation/blisters to be a thing of the past.
EQ was drastically better today during the girth session. I took my supplements an hour before the workout as opposed to after as I usually do, which probably helped. The 1000mg of horny goat weed extract surely helped as well.
I was able to hold an extreme level of post workout engorgement using my girth band. I use a 4" segment of a LGH silicone sleeve rolled up to a very tight 1" band. When putting it on immediately after the workout, my unit stays so engorged it feels almost as hard as it is when erect. I apply a heating pad during this period. It starts getting uncomfortable and my unit starts turning a darker shade in color after about 20 minutes at which point I take off the band briefly to allow blood flow to restore before reapplying.

[getinbig Senior Member Member of the Month March 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close getinbig]

Great Log! You are doing some intense work. How difficult is it to get the rolled up silicone band back on after your workout?

I clamp with a 3/4" length of silicone as a comfort sleeve. After I finish my clamp, I will sometimes leave this on while I'm in the shower. It feels pretty tight, but what you are putting on is much tighter than that. Also how long do you leave that on...I know you leave it on for about 20 minutes and then take it off for a few minutes...and then you reapply it. How long do you leave it on after reapplying?

I did a 20 minute clamp this morning and am about to do another. Thinking about your after workout clamp...I just think I'd have a hard time getting it on, but I may give it a try.

Thanks for sharing what you're doing and for your answers if you have time.

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Great Log! You are doing some intense work. How difficult is it to get the rolled up silicone band back on after your workout?

I clamp with a 3/4" length of silicone as a comfort sleeve. After I finish my clamp, I will sometimes leave this on while I'm in the shower. It feels pretty tight, but what you are putting on is much tighter than that. Also how long do you leave that on...I know you leave it on for about 20 minutes and then take it off for a few minutes...and then you reapply it. How long do you leave it on after reapplying?

I did a 20 minute clamp this morning and am about to do another. Thinking about your after workout clamp...I just think I'd have a hard time getting it on, but I may give it a try.

Thanks for sharing what you're doing and for your answers if you have time.

Yeah it's definitely intense. I'm strongly considering backing off of clamping for a while because my girth is growing too fast. I've been growing something like 0.10" a week.

As far as getting the rolled up girth band onto my unit after the session, it actually isn't difficult at all when using strength. I roll it up, put three fingers inside from both hands (a total of six fingers inside the cavity), then forcefully stretch it out to make the central cavity expand to a good two inch diameter (this is where you have to use strength), and then slide it down your shaft and release it at your base. These LGH sleeves really don't tear that easy, so don't be scared to apply some force (I have torn some smaller segments before though).

I don't necessarily leave it on for any specific time increments, it take it off and reapply based on comfort levels. This technique really occludes outward blood flow and what you will notice is the pressure contiually builds up and up as you leave it on, as this occurs the color of your unit will darken slightly and the level of discomfort will grow. Once I feel that the discomfort is too high or that the color has darkened too much is when I take it off briefly then reapply. What happens every time you take it off though is you lose some of the maximal engorgement you are attempting to retain from the clamping session. You will notice the level of engorgement drops each successive time you reapply the band.