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[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

11-19-2016

Morning:
15 minutes BTC stretching
15 minutes low grip stretching (all directions)
1 hour hanging SD at 7.5 pounds
Straight into extender, cycling in longer rod lengths (total 8 hours)

Evening:
Rest day

Supplements:
Skipped vasodilatory supplements.

Observations:
My unit seems to be turtles when I wake up...I may need to start sleeping in an ADS.
I skipped my erect work as I was experiencing general girthwork related soreness in my unit. I am also considering dropping clamping for a while as my girth is growing too fast.

[getinbig Senior Member Member of the Month March 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close getinbig]

Yeah it's definitely intense. I'm strongly considering backing off of clamping for a while because my girth is growing too fast. I've been growing something like 0.10" a week.

As far as getting the rolled up girth band onto my unit after the session, it actually isn't difficult at all when using strength. I roll it up, put three fingers inside from both hands (a total of six fingers inside the cavity), then forcefully stretch it out to make the central cavity expand to a good two inch diameter (this is where you have to use strength), and then slide it down your shaft and release it at your base. These LGH sleeves really don't tear that easy, so don't be scared to apply some force (I have torn some smaller segments before though).

I don't necessarily leave it on for any specific time increments, it take it off and reapply based on comfort levels. This technique really occludes outward blood flow and what you will notice is the pressure contiually builds up and up as you leave it on, as this occurs the color of your unit will darken slightly and the level of discomfort will grow. Once I feel that the discomfort is too high or that the color has darkened too much is when I take it off briefly then reapply. What happens every time you take it off though is you lose some of the maximal engorgement you are attempting to retain from the clamping session. You will notice the level of engorgement drops each successive time you reapply the band.

Your rate of growth in girth is amazing! I wonder if that is partly from your application of the LG sleeve after you finish clamping. I also use a 4" length and I basically folded it on itself 3 times. I can stretch that and will give a try after my next clamp and see how it goes. Big question!!! Do you have any difficulty getting it off once you're beginning to feel uncomfortable???
Thanks for the help and congrats on the great girth gains...I'm trying to get from 5.7 to 6" total shaft...this might help.

[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

Your rate of growth in girth is amazing! I wonder if that is partly from your application of the LG sleeve after you finish clamping. I also use a 4" length and I basically folded it on itself 3 times. I can stretch that and will give a try after my next clamp and see how it goes. Big question!!! Do you have any difficulty getting it off once you're beginning to feel uncomfortable???
Thanks for the help and congrats on the great girth gains...I'm trying to get from 5.7 to 6" total shaft...this might help.

Thanks man! Watching these gains happen before my eyes has been quite rewarding...I just want to see it in length, not girth, lol. I am no where near experienced to really speculate on why I'm experiencing such great gains. It may have something to do with my intense length work throughout the day, which could prime my tunica for optimal expansion. It could be the heating pad I apply almost religiously after my sessions which helps retain blood in my shaft. It could be my supplements which are pretty effective at dilating my blood vessels and increasing bIood delivery. I do however think my 100% erect jelqing is definitely a big contributing factor because when I started incorporating this technique I started seeing immidiate girth gains.

It isn't too difficult to get the band off. I leave my shaft lubricated after the session, which helps me work my fingers under the band. I have to be gentle when working my fingers in to avoid nicking my skin. Once I get my fingers in, I just apply same amount of force to stretch it, then I pull it off. It's pretty easy, I've never had any issues.

[getinbig Senior Member Member of the Month March 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close getinbig]

Thanks man! Watching these gains happen before my eyes has been quite rewarding...I just want to see it in length, not girth, lol. I am no where near experienced to really speculate on why I'm experiencing such great gains. It may have something to do with my intense length work throughout the day, which could prime my tunica for optimal expansion. It could be the heating pad I apply almost religiously after my sessions which helps retain blood in my shaft. It could be my supplements which are pretty effective at dilating my blood vessels and increasing bIood delivery. I do however think my 100% erect jelqing is definitely a big contributing factor because when I started incorporating this technique I started seeing immidiate girth gains.

It isn't too difficult to get the band off. I leave my shaft lubricated after the session, which helps me work my fingers under the band. I have to be gentle when working my fingers in to avoid nicking my skin. Once I get my fingers in, I just apply same amount of force to stretch it, then I pull it off. It's pretty easy, I've never had any issues.

Your gains are impressive. I wish I had done some of the work you're doing when I started. i had great newbie gains as well, but I think you might be outpacing me. I was pretty cautious in the beginning and was afraid of erect jelqs. You have to be careful with them.

I use a great lube and that should help get the sleeve off...I'm probably going to try that on Tuesday when I plan to clamp again.

Thanks for all the help!

[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

11-20-2016

Morning:
10 minutes stretching BTC
10 minutes low grip stretching all directions
1 hour hanging SD at 7.5 pounds
Extender for 8 hours

Afternoon:
20 minutes stretching (all directions)

Evening:
5 minutes edging
35 minutes erect stretching
Extender for 1 hour

Supplements:
Same regimen

Observations:
My girth is getting to big. I can tell that the hanging isn't giving my unit the same level of stretch as before I put on this girth. I want to be able to hang effectively in order to reach my length gains. Furthermore, I don't want to outgrow the diameter of my LGH dome (I'm pretty far away from that actually occurring). I am going to go all out on length, and look for new length exercise schemes to incorporate during my daily routine. I want to employ variety and constantly keep my unit guessing. I also still thinking about sleeping in an ADS again.
I think I will do 2-3 girth sessions a week, and start focusing on maintaining a good EQ level.

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11-21-2016

Morning:
45 minutes hanging SD at 9 pounds
8 hours in Extender

Evening:
15 minutes low grip stretching (BTC, SU, to the side)
5 minutes bundled stretching
10 minutes erect stretching
45 minutes hanging SD at 9 pounds
30 minutes hanging SD at 2.5 pounds
2 hours in extender

Supplements:
Same regimen plus 250mg pine bark

Observations:
I feel like I'm taking the extender off too often for breaks due to discomfort. I believe keeping my unit in a nearly constant elongated state will yield better gains. Up until now I have been running the extender as hard as possible throughout most of the day and I've reaching fatigue often, but I'm thinking this may be leading to my unit turtling, especially in the late evening.
I am going to cycle the tension levels appropriately so that I spend the last three hours of my evening before bed applying a very passive/mild stretch, where I experience no discomfort. I think this will help cement my unit in the elongated state and prevent turtling. I will shoot for at least 4 hours of high tension, active wear of my extender and at least 6 hours of passive wear of my extender throughout the day.
I tried sleeping in an ADS this past night and I took it off due to discomfort. Perhaps this discomfort will subside as I incorporate more passive use of the extender.

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11-22-2016

Morning:
3 hours extender before hanging (high tension)
30 minutes hanging SD at 2.5-7.5 pounds
45 minutes hanging SD at 9 pounds
4 hours extender (low tension)

Evening:
30 minutes hanging warmup at 2.5-7.5 pounds
45 minutes hanging SD at 9 pounds
3 hours extender (low tension)
15 minutes ligament stretching (BTC, SU, to the side)
5 minutes flaccid bends
Straight into ADS, slept in ADS

Supplements:
Same regiment plus 250mg pine bark

Observations:
My unit seems to be responding better to the more relaxed/passive use of the extender in the evening. My unit looked reasonably longer than usual around bedtime, I took a measurement and I was just 7.75" BPEL. My flaccid stretched length was somewhere in the neighborhood of 8.25". These are just rough measurements, and I am only mentioning them for future reference when gauging the efficacy of my routines. I will report actual updated measurements when December hits.
My unit doesn't seem as girthy since removing the girth work, but I have retained a fair amount of the gains. Again, updated measurements for girth coming in December.
My EQ seemed great during sex, I would say 9/10. Other than that, I don't experience any spontaneous erections throughout the day or morning wood, which I think I need to improve.

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11-23-2016

Morning:
1.5 hours extender before hanging
30 minutes hanging SD at 2.5-7.5 pounds
45 minutes hanging SD at 9 pounds
6 hours extender


Evening:
10 minutes hanging warmup at 2.5-7.5 pounds
45 minutes hanging SD at 9 pounds
3 hours extender
5 minutes edging
25 minutes erect upward jelqing
1 hour extender

Supplements:
250mg pine bark extract, 2g citruline malate, 250mL POM

[getinbig Senior Member Member of the Month March 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close getinbig]

An impressive workout and your flaccid stretched length suggests you will be able to achieve some very nice gains in length. Girth will definitely be there for you as well.
Keep up the good work but watch your PIs!

[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

An impressive workout and your flaccid stretched length suggests you will be able to achieve some very nice gains in length. Girth will definitely be there for you as well.
Keep up the good work but watch your PIs!

Thank you Getinbig! I do feel like I have a lot of room for growth still. I really want to get this length knocked out. I'm not worried about my capacity to reach my girth goals later down the road as I have clamping in my arsenal. Clamping is so effective....

Speaking of PI's, I've made the decision to remove the vacuum hanging indefinitely. It just causes too many issues with the glans. After just a week I quickly developed these raised spots near my urethra that are irritated and slightly peeling (yeah I know, sounds scary).... Vacuum hanging is a really powerful tool, but I guess not everyone is cut out for it. I'm designing a new manuals/extender length workout scheme, and will post it tomorrow.

[getinbig Senior Member Member of the Month March 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close getinbig]

Thank you Getinbig! I do feel like I have a lot of room for growth still. I really want to get this length knocked out. I'm not worried about my capacity to reach my girth goals later down the road as I have clamping in my arsenal. Clamping is so effective....

Speaking of PI's, I've made the decision to remove the vacuum hanging indefinitely. It just causes too many issues with the glans. After just a week I quickly developed these raised spots near my urethra that are irritated and slightly peeling (yeah I know, sounds scary).... Vacuum hanging is a really powerful tool, but I guess not everyone is cut out for it. I'm designing a new manuals/extender length workout scheme, and will post it tomorrow.

I have other friends who've struggled with vac hanging as well. Sounds like you're making a good decision.

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11-24-2016

Morning:
15 minutes hanging SD at 2.5-7.5 pounds
45 minutes hanging SD at 9 pounds
7 hours extender


Evening:
20 minutes hanging warmup at 2.5-7.5 pounds
45 minutes hanging SD at 9 pounds
4 hours extender

Supplements:
250mg pine bark extract, 2g citruline malate

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11-25-2016

Morning:
15 minutes hanging SD at 2.5-7.5 pounds
70 minutes hanging SD at 9 pounds
7 hours extender

Evening:
5 minutes edging
15 minutes erect upward jelqing
4 hours extender

Supplements:
Same regimen

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11-26-2016

Morning:
15 minutes hanging warmup
35 minutes hanging SD at 9 pounds
10 hours extender with thee sessions of five minute high intensity stretching spread throughout the day (straight up, straight out, and straight down, intensity level of 95%-100%)

Evening:
20 minutes edging
15 minutes erect upward jelqing
2 hours extender

Supplements:
250mg pine bark, 200mg ginkgo, 2g citruline malate, 250mL POM

Observations:
I have officially retired from hanging, it was progressively damaging my glans and causing inflammation, peeling, and darkening. I wish I could continue but I am confident I can get just as good results if not better from intense manual work combined with my extender. I am going to employ an extensive manual routine in the morning, where I warm up with light stretching for 20 minutes, followed by 40 minutes of exhaustive high intensity stretches hitting every important angle: BTC stretching, low-grip stretching in the straight up direction which hits the internal penis and ligaments, standard grip stretching straight out (including to the sides), standard grip straight down stretching (including to the sides), flaccid bends (all four directions, with varying the position of my finger fulcrum up/down the shaft in order to target all tissues), and bundled stretches in the straight down, straight up, and straight out angles. I will then immediately enter the extender and start with low-moderate length rods (extending my unit roughly to my BPEL) and allow my unit to slowly loosen up. I think it it important to start with a less intense stretch on the extender early in the day so your unit can adapt to it (allows adequate blood flow to the glans to develop and lessens the tensile pullback from your shaft, it is much easier to get an effective grip with the extender when your tunica is loosened up as a stiffer tunica pulls back harder into the retracted state.) I will then slowly ease into longer rods as the day progresses, and approach my bone pressed flaccid length. I will then vary the length of the rods based on comfort at this point. I will integrate intermittent, high intensity five minute stretching sessions throughout the day in order to keep my unit stretched at or beyond it elastic limit and then retain that plastic deformation by immediate application of the extender. The second important component of the intermittent stretching is the fact that allows me to return to running the extender at a longer length setting. This is as very critical as it is very difficult to stay inside the extender at higher length setting (0-0.50 inches above BPEL) for extended periods of time as the penis will start retracting and discomfort starts setting in when hitting "fatigue". Resultantly, I can log more hours at much longer length settings on the extender. My intermittent stretching sessions throughout the day will be of extremely high intensity. I will set a timer on my phone, then start start stretching in the SU, SO, and SD down directions with the grip below my glans. I will progressively ease into the maximal intensity level the first 30 seconds of the session after which I will stretch at 100% intensity for four and a half minutes. I will not hold any of the three directions for a particular duration, I simply move the direction to where I feel the most intense stretch. I will perform these sessions wherever necessary, given sufficient privacy. After completing the session and entering the extender (at over +0.25" beyond my BPEL), I will be able to hold the grip very easily with the extender and it feels almost soothing (that kind of soothing feeling you get after stretching out your hamstrings). I want to get at least five of these intermittent stretching sessions in throughout the day, but I believe I can go beyond that and use them to really push my capacity to run the extender continuously at maximal lengths without having to take breaks or decrease length. I think this will be critical as far as attaining length gains as I move forward....I want to be able to stay in the extender at maximal lengths as long as possible.
I am going to begin implementing late evening ligament stretching sessions before bed, where I do low grip stretching near the base of my penis and exclusively target my ligaments. Maybe ten or fifteen minutes here, nothing too intense, the purpose is just to loosen the ligaments up nicely prior to bed as the extender seems to target primarily my shaft.
I do not know how I am going to implement girth work yet. I believe I will continue multiple erect jelqing sessions a week plus edging but not go beyond that, with the purpose of these sessions being solely to promote EQ, blood delivery, and length gains.
Ive made huge gains this month, more than any month since I have started back in June and I will post my updated measurements later this week. I want to match or even surpass these gains during December.

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11-27-2016

Morning:
20 minutes stretching warm up (all angles)
40 minutes high intensity stretching, five minutes at each angle (BTC, low-grip SU, low-grip SO, SD, SU, SO, flaccid bends) (Penis was stretched in all directions within a 180 degree arc at all respective angles)
12 hours extender with five intermittent stretching sessions (five minutes each)

Evening:
No evening session

Supplements:
Same regimen