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[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

11-28-2016

Morning:
8 hours extender
20 minutes stretching warm up (alldirections)
40 minutes high intensity stretching, five minutes at each angle (BTC, low-grip SU, low-grip SO, SD, SU, SO, flaccid bends) (Penis was stretched in all directions within a 180 degree arc at all respective angles)
1.5 hours extender

Evening:
15 minutes edging
15 minutes erect upward jelq (mild intensity)
6 hours extender with five intermittent stretching sessions
15 minutes low intensity base stretching (BTC, SU, SO)

Supplements:
250mg pine bark, 25mg ginkgo biloba, 2g citruline malate, 250mL POM

Observations:
EQ was low during the erect session, this was probably due to having completed my length work just 1.5hours prior
Last 6 hours of extender work in the evening went very well, I was able to hold great stretches averaging around 8" pressed and my intermittent stretching sessions felt very effective.

[Stealthpeman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stealthpeman]

Excellent results from a dedicated routine, I had similar issues continuing my vac hanging routine with comfort on the glans. I wish I had more gains to show for it thou, I have my understanding of where my losses are but still trying to figure out a solution.

As I read in your log and I believe I'm largely effected by is "keeping myself in an elongated state for longer" I want an anti turtle device but hard to hide from the wife (this may be the solution from the start)

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I noticed a lot of your hanging routines you changed angles a lot, shot gunning is not meant to be a good excercise while hanging? That and fulcrum hanging with other excercises is probably too much, perhaps contribution to low EQ? The glans discomfort etc? This is just my observation(clearly what you are doing is working well)

[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

Excellent results from a dedicated routine, I had similar issues continuing my vac hanging routine with comfort on the glans. I wish I had more gains to show for it thou, I have my understanding of where my losses are but still trying to figure out a solution.

As I read in your log and I believe I'm largely effected by is "keeping myself in an elongated state for longer" I want an anti turtle device but hard to hide from the wife (this may be the solution from the start)

Thanks man!

I believe my issues with vacuum hanging stem primarily from my use of the phallosan forte as a modified hanger. I really over did it during this period and hung without protection on my glans for extended periods, which resulted in a serious inflammatory response on the tip of my glans. I continued to hang through this, and it only got worse. I then finally started using protection on my glans while hanging and switched to an actual vac hanger (LGhanger) but I couldn't undo the damage. Now my glans seem to be super sensitive to any vacuum hanging.
Now I am only speculating when I say it was my initial improper use of the Phallosan Forte which led to my inability to vacuum hang. That may be just be coincidental and I've really just had sensitive glans all along that were never going to be able to vacuum hang in the first place. But I do know that there are tons people on these boards who's glans cant handle the stress from vacuum hanging. I dont know what is going on with your situation specifically but I would say just ditch the hanger, can get just as good of results from manuals....check out some of the other logs here like purpleone or getinbig, they made huge length gains and encourage manuals for length work

As far as keeping your unit in the elongated state, I do know that many people here have too experienced huge gains without employing this method...So it may not be entirely critical, but I have made huge gains in the past 5 months as a result of staying extended almost constantly throughout the day. I made the decision to tell my girlfriend about all of my PE activities back in August and it was such a great decision. Before that I had to hide all of my workouts and more importantly my ADS. But after telling her it wasn't just a relief, it was a massive boost to my ability to wear my ADS whenever i want and get in workouts whenever i want. There is no way I would have made the gains I have if I hadn't of told her.....There's nothing to be embarrassed about. I try and have the attitude of owning whatever I do and not be embarrassed by anything.

[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

I noticed a lot of your hanging routines you changed angles a lot, shot gunning is not meant to be a good excercise while hanging? That and fulcrum hanging with other excercises is probably too much, perhaps contribution to low EQ? The glans discomfort etc? This is just my observation(clearly what you are doing is working well)

I really wasn't changing my angles that much throughout my months of hanging. There were only a few periods where i incorporated the SO and OTS angles. The overwhelming majority of my hanging (98%) was spent in the SD angle while standing or sitting.
As far as my EQ, I haven't really been having serious issues with it, its been perfectly sufficient for sex and what not. I was having issues with it when I was doing my intense girth routines back in early November, but that was a direct result of the huge work load. I've really only been talking about improving my EQ because I think that having a nearly perfect EQ level would lead to better gains, as my unit would have the best possible blood flow and thus be primed for the most growth.

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11-29-2016

Morning:
15 minutes light stretching (all angles)
8 hours extender with 3 intermittent stretching sessions (10 minutes total)

Evening:
20 minutes light stretching warmup
40 minutes full intensity stretching all angles (see previous angles)
15 minutes edging
15 minutes upward erect jelqing (low intensity)
4 hours extender

Supplements:
same regimen

Observations:
I had a really busy day and had to do some unexpected traveling, so I could barely find any time until the evening to put a real session in. I still finished the day relatively strong though, but not nearly as strong as I would want. I like to finish every day knowing I put everything in that I could. I would give myself an 8/10 on performance today

[getinbig Senior Member Member of the Month March 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close getinbig]

Hey 25pyrrole!
Keep up the good work. Your commitment to your PE program is an inspiration to many of us here and your progress log is great!

[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

11-30-2016

Morning:
20 minutes light stretching warmup
40 minutes full intensity stretching all angles (see previous angles)
7 hours extender with 4 intermittent stretching sessions (15 total minutes)

Evening:
20 minutes edging
20 minutes upward erect jelqing (low intensity)
5 hours extender
15 minutes light stretching (low-grip targeting base/ligaments)

Supplments:
same regimen

Observations:
I noticed some slight paint in the upper lateral region of my shaft in the early evening, so I dialed back the intensity of my length work for the rest of the day. It was surely from one my intermittent stretching sessions, as Ive been really pushing the intensity during them. I'm new to this form of stretching (stretching without a warmup and gripping below the glans) and I'm still learning my limitations in PE, its been a process for me to learn what my body can and can't handle and to learn how to maximize my gains while staying within my limits of safety. The pain is extremely mild, maybe 1/10, with no other symptoms (i have full sensitivity and erectile function). I will be focusing on low grip stretching until this clears up.

[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

Hey 25pyrrole!
Keep up the good work. Your commitment to your PE program is an inspiration to many of us here and your progress log is great!

Thank you getinbig, that means a ton to me. Your'e a big role model for me on here, Ive gained a lot reading through your log.

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Measurement Update (12-1-2016)

BPEL 7.75"
EG 5.15"

Both measurements were taken in the early afternoon before any length/girth work. I have observed these measurement for multiple days now. Girth was measured below the glans. I used cut string for accuracy, then measured in cm before converting to inches. The 7.75" BPEL is a conservative measurement, as I was getting readings closer to 7.90" during my erect jelqing sessions.

I am truly blown away by my length gains this past month. I have been so happy. I gained 0.31", this has been my best month to date by far. I've learned a lot this month, and I hope to build on this experience as I move forward in order to help myself and others get the best results possible. During December, I need to spend more time looking through old threads and logs here on PEGym in order to build on my knowledge, my efforts have really been lacking in area.

[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

12-1-2016

Morning:
20 minutes low grip stretching (light intensity)
5 hours extender (moderate length)

Afternoon:
20 minutes edging
30 minutes upward erect jelqing (high intensity)
7 hours extender (moderate intensity)
30 minutes low grip stretching (moderate intensity)

Observations:
The pain has lessened and is even more mild now, but I'm going to continue to nurse it until its 100% better. So i'll continue to lay off of the shaft work and stick with low grip stretching. I plan on hitting some pretty serious sessions these next few days targeting my base and ligaments. I still have tons of gains to tap as far as my internal penis and ligaments. You can tell when someone has a very well developed base, their base very prominent and really protudes out from the fat pad...

I am going to start get serious about my erect work again, primarily my erect jelqing. This is as I've noticed in the past few days since I had started having some serious erect sessions again, my blood flow during the daytime in the extender has been TREMENDOUSLY better. Before, my glans would quickly get cold after about 30 minutes and slightly darkened around 60 minutes while in the extender. But today, I had zero circulation issues while in the extender. More cumulative blood delivery means more growth (and increased safety), which is what I want. Furthermore, I've noticed that my BPEL shoots up a good .15-.20" during my erect jelqing work, which indicates that have I have some real easy smooth muscle gains I can tap right now. I am going to hold back on the clamping though, and save that for later down the road.

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12-2-2016

Morning:
20 minutes low-grip stretching (BTC, SU, SO, SD)
3 hours extender

Afternoon:
5 minutes edging
30 minutes upward erect jelqing (high intensity)
5 hours extender

Evening:
20 minutes low-grip stretching (BTC)
20 minutes low grip stretching (SU)
2 hours extender

Supplements:
same regimen

[Nathan341 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nathan341]

12-3-2016

Morning:
20 minutes low-grip stretching (BTC, SU, SO, SD)
10 hours extender (cycling high tension)

Evening:
20 minutes low-grip stretching (BTC)
20 minutes low grip stretching (SU)
5 minutes edging
30 minutes upward erect jelqing (high intensity)
3 hours extender

Supplements:
skipped supplements

Observations:
The strain in my upper shaft is improving and is just about cleared up, so I am beginning to cycle in higher tension loads on the extender throughout the day. I want to get back to where I keep my unit completely fatigued throughout the entire day before stepping down the tension a few hours before bed to prevent any turtling. I really feel that my future gains depend on heavy, dedicated use of the extender. I also am going to bring back the intermittent stretching again in the next few days as I feel that I can do it safely without any risk of injury. However, I am going to be doing low-grip stretching during these intermittent sessions. I am going to spend at least one more week doing exclusively low grip work, in order to really maximize growth in the base of my penis.

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12-4-2016

Morning:
30 minutes low grip stretching (BTC, SU, SO, SD)
10 hours extender with 3 intermittent stretching sessions (15 minutes total, low grip SU direction only)

Evening:
30 minutes low grip stretching (BTC, SU, SD)
2 hours extender

Supplements:
pine bark and ginkgo biloba

Observations:
I wasn't able to fit in very much manual work today due to a very busy schedule, but I felt as though I finished the day on an okay note...I would rate myself a 7/10 on performance for the day.
I am running the extender hard again, and hitting fatigue throughout the day. I want to get back to incorporating more intermittent stretching sessions, I think I need to get to around 8-10 sessions for a total of 40 minutes throughout the day which will work in concert with my extender to drive gains.

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12-5-2016

Morning:
20 minutes low grip stretching (BTC, SU, SO, SD)
6.5 hours extender

Evening:
15 minutes edging
30 minutes upward erect jelqing
6 hours extender with 4 intermittent stretching sessions (20 minutes total, low grip SU direction)
30 minutes low grip stretching (BTC, SU, bundled SU)

Supplements:
pine bark and ginkgo biloba

Observations:
I am seeing some growth right now. I measured around 7.81" BPEL during the edging which shot up to probably 7.95" BPEL during the jelqing. My base is looking more visibly prominent while in the flaccid state, so all of the low-grip work is having an effect.
This was the first time I tried low-grip bundled stretching in the straight up direction, and it was extremely effective at hitting my internal penis. It seemed to really circumvent the ligaments and really hit the internal penis behind the scrotum and up the perineum. I did maybe 1/2 to 3/4 of a full rotation and stretched up.