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2 MONTHS UPDATE
Hey guys, little update. It's been 2 month since I restarted my PE.
Some stats for the last month (20.9. - 19.10.):
Training days: 24
Minutes of PE per training day (average): 97
Total PE time last month: 38 hours 41 minutes (2321 minutes) (edging times not included - I don't count edging as proper intense training)
Time spent in vac ads: 40 hours 10 minutes (2410 minutes)
In the first half of the month I did mainly stretching. Second half I did lots of jelqing with high EQ and jelq-stretches. Occasionally I did clamping and pumping and very little hanging.

Current measurements:
I measured today at 10pm this is my first off day, because we are having a visit coming tomorrow monring and staying until Monday. However if I will get time, I will try to measure tomorrow as well to confirm the values.
BPEL: 17.6cm = 6.93"
MEG: 13.9cm = 5.47"

I have just edited my first post and signature as it seems I wasn't (re)starting PE with 5.05" MEG, but around 5.24" MEG. So in two months I have gained so far 0.23 BPEL and 0.23 MEG.
I was hoping for better results in my second month (lengthwise) because I increased the intensity of my workouts but I realize now what I did was more focusing on girth. Which is something I don't pursue at the moment. So in my following month I will again focus more on stretching and hanging and might follow a slightly lighter routine. If the gains will stall, I will take around 6 weeks off and then restart again I guess. In overall I am pleased with my results so far.

EDIT: BPEL confirmed on Sunday evening, MEG I measured 13.9cm, so I am adjusting this in my post and signature (from 14cm/5.5").

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Hey guys. I edited my previous post an hour ago. Basically I changed my MEG from 14cm to 13.9cm after measuring on Sunday evening. I actually measured 14cm once on Sunday evening as well, but I will stick with 13.9cm to stay on the "safe side".
So today is my first training day of the my 3rd training month.

Goal for this month:
7" BPEL LENGTH!

Ways to achieve my goal for this month:

• stretching
• vac ads
• hanging
• no high erection level jelqing - only with low erection level
• no jelq-stretching
• NO PUMPING or CLAPMING this month at all

Thoughts:
I am really not sure if I will be able to gain those last 2mm to reach 7" BPEL in my 3rd month, but will give it a try. Actually I am a bit skeptical. I know it's not the best attitude, but anyway I will focus on length with moderate intensity and will stay consistent. I don't care if I lose some girth for now. I believe that whatever you lose (in matter of penis size) can always be obtained back quite easily later on. That's one of the reasons I am not afraid to take longer breaks. And re-reading success forum stories I am convinced I will have many long breaks (up to 2 months) in my PE journey. But all of them will be planned and will have firm final dates after which I will always continue my PE again (no excuses!). This way I think it is possible to break plateaus multiple times before getting really stuck.

Reason for me to focus purely on length now:

• I believe in theory "Length first" (that it's easier to gain length while less girthy) and I have gained girth already (not complaining)
• my erections have been great lately, so I assume it's not the PC muscle that limits me, but tunica

Final thoughts on breaks
By taking a longer break (6-8 weeks) I see at least two benefits there:

1. Your penis heals fully in 1-2 weeks and in the next 5-7 weeks will eventually become less stong/tight and will actually become "weaker" again. Not like it was before PE, but at least closer to that state. That's why you should see some new gains (like newbie gains) once you restart
2. Let's not forget about the mental state. It will give one some time off to think of other stuff in our lives than just our penises. Plus this approach should avoid frustrating periods of months of training with no results..

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Great insights especially about the thinking about the penis all the time. Harmony is the key.

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Thanks Ujjayi. Everybody should remember that we are doing PE to be more happy (in general), not to be frustrated or decrease quality of our lives.

Note for all (and myself):
I added a new section to my first post in this thread called Supplements.
I will copy-paste it here:

Supplements

• Gingko Biloba
• Fish Oil,
• Zinc, Mangesium, Calcium
• Tribulus terrestris
• Green tea (1 cup a day after lunch)
• This is not a supplement, but it's worth mentioning - daily eating fresh vegetables and fruits. This prevents inflammations and helps to speed up recovery.

Since beginning of month 3 I added:

• L-Arginin
• Maca powder
• Collagen type 1 and 2 (started two week in)

At first I was kind of hesitant to invest further money into l-arginin and maca, but then I thought to myself: Is there any price limit to get your penis bigger? Well there certainly is one, but it's definitely way above the costs of these supplements.

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So yesterday I took l-arginin and maca for the first time during lunch time (since today I started taking l-arginin in the morning on empty stomach).
The result was that I woke up during night multiple times with erection. That is definitely new to me. I mean I get erections quite often during the day, but this was rather shocking experience to me. I don't think this was a coincidence. Feels like a good supplementation to my routine...
Yesterday managed to do 80 minutes of stretching and 30 mins of hanging at night with 7.7 lbs. It seems I won't be able to do much exercising during weekend so I will again stick to 5 on 2 off routine this week.

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So much for hanging plans for tonight. I wore my vac ads for 90 mins and it felt quite itchy since the start, but I didn't pay much attention to that which turned out to be a big mistake. I put it on incorrectly and now I have pretty bad edema on bottom part of my foreskin. Hopefully this heals within two days.. At least I managed to do 75mins of stretching today.

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So yesterday I took l-arginin and maca for the first time during lunch time (since today I started taking l-arginin in the morning on empty stomach).
The result was that I woke up during night multiple times with erection. That is definitely new to me. I mean I get erections quite often during the day, but this was rather shocking experience to me. I don't think this was a coincidence. Feels like a good supplementation to my routine...
Yesterday managed to do 80 minutes of stretching and 30 mins of hanging at night with 7.7 lbs. It seems I won't be able to do much exercising during weekend so I will again stick to 5 on 2 off routine this week.

Are you going to stagger your supplement intake so your body won't adjust to it?

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Are you going to stagger your supplement intake so your body won't adjust to it?

Hey Ujjayi, good to see you around and also good question. Well for now my plan is to take the supplements on daILy basis while training. Once I will go on planned break (6-8 weeks) I will stop taking them.
But in general I don't want my body to get used to them and have bad blood flow without them, so once I will be back from the break I will be using them for about a month or so and then stop for couple of months and then again a month of taking them, etc... But we will see how it goes.

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And now an update.
So, yesterday evening/night I tried angion method v1 to lower the edema on my foreskin. I did it for ten minutes and I believe it helped a bit. At least it looked better once I was done. Today it's still there, but really just minor. However I will probably still skip hanging tonight with my vac ads.
Anyway prior the angion method I used a chili heat cream on my penis (which I do from time to time) and massaged it a bit. I also used it as a lube during the angion method. All was fine, then I did some edging and went to sleep around 10pm. Well I woke up at midnight with strong erection and also strong urge to pee. Well, I went to the toilet, but the urge didn't go away after I emptied my bladder. I had this condition like ten to twenty times in my life before. Until today I still don't know what is the cause. I sat there on the toilet for good 10 mins holding a RK (at least some exercise). Then I realized the cream could have made it to my glans during edging and that could have caused this reflex or whatever it is, so I washed the whole area in the shower and went to sleep. It was not very pleasant experience.
Later on during night I had at least two erections that woke me up partially.
Oh and in the morning in the shower I pulled on my penis a bit and felt something like fatigue. I was a bit surprising I felt it after just stretching yesterday and applying vac ads afterwards (even thought the tension was quite high). I usually get this feeling from hanging.
Also yesterday when I was stretching sometimes during the end of the stretch (I hold usually for 40-60s) I pulled very hard before switching hands. This will either promote growth or make my penis tougher. We'll see.

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Yesterday evening the edema was gone so I went for hanging (one would expect me being a bit smarter at my age). Anyway I am not complete idiot, so I checked after 20 mins of hanging and so some minor swelling, so I stopped immediately. I switched to massaging and edging with a bit of angion method v1. Today I still can see the swelling. Well at least I know no hanging for me today.. Still will proceed with stretching during the day. Night erections continue.
Please note we have small kids and they tend to wake up and cry a little during night, so I am not sure whether it's them who wake me up or the erections.

EDIT: ugh, forgot to mention that right after i finished edging I went 100% erect into bath and showered my penis with (very) cold water for like 2-3 mins. It was actually good feeling. I will try to do this now more often.

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Decided to take a day off today as I had sex last night and also today and the swelling still seems to be there (even though just a little). I will also rest tomorrow and will see about Sunday on Sunday.

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So, where to start...
I had a pretty unhealthy weekend (not only) for PE.
Drank lots of rum on Saturday night with my friend. Had only couple of hours of bad quality sleep. The next day I felt very horny (I always do after drinking) and allowed myself to fap on Sunday. In the end I ejaculated 4 times on Sunday.
Do I feel guilty? No. I could have resisted, but I chose not to. Sometimes you need some fun to help you stay on track. You just need to be aware of this and know it's not happening frequently.
Anyway for some stupid reason I did some heavy girth workout during weekend out of curiosity. A bit of pumping followed by long and strong uli's session. By the end of the session I was around 5.75" MEG and when holding uli I was at 5.95" MEG. I was impressed. However my impression didn't last too long, because once I went flaccid I realized it was mainly fluid build up in my shaft skin. Btw it was mainly from uli's, not the pumping (which I did with low pressure and short sessions).
I will try to start some running at least 3 times a week after I wake up. Which means waking up earlier. Also I stopped using a hot water in shower. Warm is sufficient. Also I quite like the idea of intermittent fasting. One day in a month sounds reasonable. However during my last attempt on Friday I got a headache and decided to stop around 15 hours in.

My index finger are still a bit sore and feel kind of stiff. My penis feel also sore after doing the heavy girth workouts, plus my mother in law is with us until tomorrow since yesterday. I will take some more originally unplanned days off. Definitely today and will see about tomorrow. Then will be back on length oriented routine again and will finally start hanging again hopefully (this depends on how early my kids and wife go to sleep at night).

EDIT: I also wanted to mention that I will try to take a break from pegym.com every weekend. I still might post here during weekends, but will not read through the forum and will try to keep my head clear of the whole PE during weekends in general. I believe it could be quite refreshing.

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I am back at it. Today 65 mins manuals and 30 mins hanging. Now I am edging before sleep using my old wand massager. Basically I just hold it on my shaft and the vibrations do the rest. I decided to give vibrations a try. So we will see how it all goes. For now I can say it is at least pleasurable. Let's if there are any side effects (negative or positive).

EDIT: also I was in gym on Monday evening, working out pretty hard. Hope it boots my testosterone a bit.
Now it's Wednesday morning and i must say I didn't notice any turtling after vibrating my penis (I did bed fowfers shortly after though). Actually I had a feeling I saw quite the opposite, my penis stayed engorged longer than I expected, so I will carry on with this. I have read through some scientific articles about vibrations and their effect on human bodies, but some seem to be in contradiction. I guess I will have to become one of those lab rats to find where the truth lies.

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Already did 80 mins of manuals today (mainly stretching plus some jelqing with 30-70% EQ). Now I started hanging as my family went to sleep (already 10 mins in). I have moved up to 4kg (8.8lbs). If all goes well I will try to hang as much as possible until the end of this cycle (I start each cycle on 20th each month). So far I am feeling comfortable with this weight.
I have a feeling my gains are going to stall if I won't hang enough, so let's see how much I manage to hang in this cycle and whether I will gain any length.

Managed to do 48 mins of hanging (could have gone for more, but didn't want to risk any injuries, edemas, etc). Now I am vibe-edging.
I will merge my last two posts into one when on pc.

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Thank you Ujjayi
This week I've been training since Tuesday averaging 100+ mins of PE each day (not counting today - it's pretty much still morning here). My unit feels somewhat shorter lately. I don't think it is the case really, but I don't have a feeling it is growing now. If I don't see any progress during my next measurements I will take two weeks off and then restart. If that doesn't result into gains in the following month of PE I will take a break of 6-8 weeks and then restart with really light routine, because lately I've mixed feelings about training hard 5 days in row.
But for now I am doing mainly stretching, some hanging, a little bit of jelqing, jeql-stretching and vibe-edging. As there aren't many interesting things to mention lately I think I will post in this thread with lower frequency again.

EDIT: I just made a decision. I will cut down my training days. I will PE only on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. I may do some light exercises on either Sunday or Saturday, but I have a feeling my penis needs more rest and doesn't like me going for 5 days in row. Also my hands will be thankful for this I believe..