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Oh, but that's why I bought this Static Stretcher in the first place - there are no circulation issues (you don't even have to take it off, you can urinate with it on, etc.), so since that isn't an issue I can actually get some quality PE stretching in with this thing while I sleep. It's really comfortable so far (given, I've only had it on for about 20 minutes), but I can barely even feel it there. I'm really liking this extender so far, except for the learning curve it takes to put it on.

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Took the Stretcher off. I feel like I could keep it on all night, actually, but I'm gonna work out and I won't be putting it back on afterward. I'm going to cut the wires to size on this extender and then start using it regularly. The extender is actually surprisingly comfortable, I was expecting a lot more discomfort from it, but I can barely tell it's on when I'm not paying attention to it. All I gotta do is master the wrapping now and I'll be all set for my extender usage.

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I'm on a weird cycle right now. I'm gonna restart my cycle here, but I had scheduled previously a decon break for right now since I've been doing PE for about 12 or so weeks consistently.

So, here's what I'm gonna do:
Take this next week "off" - but this weekend I'm gonna do a Shock Routine. Maybe it'll help me bust out of the plateau I'm in. I'm gonna set up a 12-week cycle for myself right now, following along with how I've been thinking recently.

Instead of doing a shock routine every month I'm gonna do it at the end of every 12-week cycle.

Week SEPTEMBER 21-27:
Shock Routine Week - Friday or Saturday (Sep 26/27) will be Shock Day.
Week SEPTEMBER 28 - OCTOBER 4
Deconditioning, healing up and resting from the shock routine.
Week 1 - 5: OCTOBER 5 - NOVEMBER 8
Monday, Wednesday, Friday Schedule - could vary depending on PIs.
Clamping 10 min for 1 set
- can add sets as I advance, also possibly doing sets in the morning and at night to save on time & healingness
Jelqing starting at 100 Reps
- every 25 reps do 5 squeezes, add in 25 reps every week
Girth Exercises rotating each day
Every night - 2 hours before bed, wear the Static Stretcher and work up to a maximum comfortable pull. Check circulation's optimal, no problems, etc and then use the Static Stretcher during sleep for a total of 10 - 12 hours a day.
- JAI Stretches throughout the day
- Possible extender use and/or Static Wrap
- Dry Jelqs to keep plump throughout the day.

Week 6: NOVEMBER 9 - 15
Off for rest

Week 7 - 11: NOVEMBER 16 - DECEMBER 20
To Be Determined - depending on PIs, if there have been any gains, etc.
Week 12: Rest
Week 13: Shock Routine
Week 14+ to be puzzled out later on.


The only thing I have an issue with puzzling out right now is if I should be doing girth exercises along with the clamping. I'm definitely going to keep jelqing up, of course, but things like Ulis, Horse 440's and the like I'm not sure if I should be taking the time to do them. Or even, possibly doing those might really overwork my penis. So I was thinking I could either clamp Mon, Fri and do normal girth exercises on Wed or I could just clamp MWF and not bother with any other girth work. Any thoughts?

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Looking on my past journal notes today, I've decided that I'm going to go with a less-is-more routine for now. I'm going to concentrate on jelqing, I think I'll not do clamping for now, see if I can gain girth through jelqing and manual exercises in the mean time.

I noticed around August I hit 7.75" BPEL x 5.375" EG and I was doing a rather light routine MWF (40 JD jelqs, some squeezes). So I've decided I'm gonna go back to a light routine after this "deconditioning break", starting with:
5 min Warm-Up
30 second 5-way Stretching
50 Manual Jelqs (slow, light grip, enough for expansion) +10 each week depending on PIs
5 gentle squeezes (double uli) every 25 jelqs
5 min warmdown

I'll experiment with that and see how things go. I'm going with a "less is more" routine right now and will be gradually upping things.

For now I'm not going to worry about wearing an extender or clamping either. Here's hopin' for some gains... it's been quite awhile since I've had consistent gains, I don't know if that's because I keep switching up my routine (I'm guessing so), so I think that nailing my routine down to a very simple thing might be best for now.

I'm still going to do a shock routine this week, see if it helps break up my plateau a bit. I think primarily I just need to get more consistency in my routine, a problem I have is I like to read around a lot about different PE-related things and I get new ideas and switch up my routine too often, heheh.

Gonna put this as a reminder:
K.I.S.S.: (Keep It Simple, Stupid!)

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Checking in here to mention that I've been having much improved EQ since I began my break, I've also been keeping up my kegels. Probably averaging a 9 or 10 on the EQ scale, where before it was around 7 or so.

Some other things to note:
- I'm going to start taking a protein shake every morning, I'm kinda curious if this will help my PE gains at all when I start up my routine.
- I'm going to be doing about 30 min of cardio almost every day for improved blood flow and all that good stuff. I've been reading around on Thunders today and seen a lot of different mentions on how cardio has really improved gains for different guys.
- When I lose more weight I'm gonna start doing yoga. I've done yoga in the past and it's very good for exercising your pelvic floor muscles, flexibility, relaxing, and breathing.
- Following a cyclic PE routine: beginning the routine at 50 jelqs, adding jelqs periodically, taking a rest, after the rest dialing back on the volume of the previous routine, and starting to move back up again.

I'm considering making my 2 week layoff into something more like a 4-6 week layoff though, just to entirely decondition myself. I'm not sure though. I've gone quite a few months without (cemented) gains so far, so the idea of taking more time off doesn't seem too appealing, but may be necessary.

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My shock routine wasn't much of a shock today. I did 50 jelqs manually, did 50 jelqs with the Jelq Device (which was good to test, I've decided I get a better expansion with manual jelqing), but after that I couldn't really get a 100% erection to do measurements, which was my plan for the shock routine - I was hoping to do enough jelqing that I'd get a temporary increase in size, but decided not to bother with it since I couldn't get the erection level needed.

Depending on how I feel I might do more jelqing tonight.

Oh, but I've decided to switch the lube that I use for jelqing because I'm getting real tired of the stickiness of vaseline, baby oil smells wonky and is very drippy (I do PE in my bed, don't wanna get too messy), so I've switched over to using Coconut Oil! It's awesome - smells great, it's solid at room temperature (like vaseline, so it doesn't get drippy), I don't need to use much of it AT ALL, the room temperature solid breaks down into a very moisturizing slick oil for jelqing, it's absolutely perfect.

I'm starting up my 1 on / 1 off (MWF) routine Monday. Gonna be checking out my PIs during the routine, hopefully I'll get some gains going. Starting off with 10 min jelqs, I'm thinking about adding 5 min every other week. I'm going to be doing stretches, but as an experiment I'm gonna do them after jelqing (I always forget to do stretching before jelqing, don't ask me why). I'll do 5 min of stretching to begin with, add in 1 min each week and I'll switch the stretching exercises I do every 2 weeks. One thing I'm gonna change with this routine is that I want to be able to get a 100% erection level after each workout. In the past I've done workouts where I wasn't able to get an erection afterwards and I think this means that I've been overtraining during those workouts. I'm not sure if that's correct, but we'll see how things go for me with this new thought.

ROUTINE:
5 MIN WARMUP
JELQING (10 MIN) + 5 MIN EVERY OTHER WEEK (every 2 weeks)
STRETCHES (5 MIN) + 1 MIN EVERY WEEK, CHANGE UP EVERY 2 WEEKS
5-10 MIN EDGING (or longer)
5 MIN WARMDOWN

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My routine's changed a tiny bit. I've been reading around on Thunders a lot this past week and I've decided to try an every-day routine. I know this is sort of against the philosophy around here, but I'm going to give it a bit of a shot as an experiment. I'm not going to be doing a very intense routine every day, just sticking to the basics - simple jelqing, stretching. I got this idea primarily from reading a lot of Wadzilla's posts, particularly that "Big Gainer" one. Right now working on jelqing every day is helping me master my technique as well, rather than just doing it three times a week.

[1] Schedule:
7 Days On / using the "Arousal Indicator" idea from JonPop & Hairtrigger - if arousal doesn't come well enough for the workout (warmup + prep) I'm going to take the day off for a rest day, otherwise I'll continuously workout every day that my penis responds well.

[2] Routine:
- Warm up for 5 min with 100% erection, erection will subside to around 75%
- [10 min ] Proceed directly into jelqing (wet, experimenting with coconut oil). Slow, controlled movements, minimum of 3 seconds per stroke, very gentle.
- [10 min] 2 min static held stretches, gentle stretching. Straight Out for 50% of the time, Double Stretch 50% of the time.
- 5 min edging
- 10 min warmdown

I'm going to add in Bennet8's Modified V-Stretches and/or JAI stretching when I hit the bathroom.
I'll be adding 2 min to the jelqing and stretching every other week.

Current measurements:
BPEL: 7.5"
EG: 5.25"

I'm going to start an Excel sheet to track my PE workout times 'n stuff as well.

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I see your interested in "shock routines" and prolonged rests. Have you considered trying the IPR-approach.? I'm going to test it in a few months.

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I did a search over on Thunders, but I'm not entirely sure what the IPR approach is. It looks like an intense day/several days off for recovery approach, which might make sense and work for people, but right now I'm working with a more every-day-but-a-little-bit for gradual, consistent (hopefully) gains. Is there a link that goes more in-depth into the IPR routine? I'm always interested in reading different things. If I don't make any gains in several months with this current routine I'm doing perhaps I'll give the IPR approach a shot though, thanks.

edit: Did some more in-depth searching. IPR looks like an interesting routine (cyclical sort of thing), however I don't think I'll work with it for now.

As opposed to the IPR routine I'm trying to follow an approach of systematic progressive overload. I did this back when I was a newbie and gained rather well on it (up to 8" BPEL) so I'm restarting that to see if I can use that system to produce some gains for myself.

I'll be interested to see your results using the IPR approach though. It seems like a sound routine, if it works for you.

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The cold weather has come back and this is making my flaccid smaller throughout the day. I'm going to begin doing dry jelqs randomly throughout the day to see if that helps, but I'm thinking about ordering some Enlargel next month to see if that will help me keep a larger hang consistently throughout the day. Reading over on BetterMan about it it supposedly gives a warming sensation and a fuller hang throughout the day. If that's the case it might be a good supplement to my PE routine, but it is sort of pricey so I dunno if it'd be worth it in the long run.

So far I haven't missed any days. I've switched my Routine order up a bit though, since I find doing stretching directly after jelqing to be a little less effective, I'm now doing: 5 min heat - Jelqing - 10 min heat - Stretching, then some dry jelqs for circulation. Seemed to work out well today, though I'm still having the problem of a not-so-full flaccid throughout the day. I -think- it's because of the cold weather though.

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Felt like measuring today, hit 7.75 BPEL x 5.25" EG without a 100% erection. I'd say it was probably around 90% or so. Now, I'm not going to say that's a gain since it was a little while after my morning routine so it might just have been post-workout size increase, but I still feel it's a great sign that I'm getting a size increase post-workout. I think I'll measure again next week to see if I've really increased my size or not.

I've switched back to Vaseline. The coconut oil, while a good lube, got way too solid with the cold temperature in my room and I couldn't dig into it with my fingers. I'm sticking with Vaseline for now, since it works out the best for me even if it is messy.

My EQ's been pretty great so far. I've actually been woken up a few times during the night recently from night wood or something, that hasn't happened to me ever, I think. The only problem I'm having right now is I've been very off of my diet for the past couple of weeks, so I need to get back to that. My arousal levels have been lower because of the junk food I've been eating - when I'm on a cleaner diet I'm much better in that regard. Been a little low/depressed/low energy levels because of the bad diet, so I'm definitely going to be eating well soon. Exercise hasn't been going so well either, but I'm thinking about starting up doing yoga soon. I'm also going to be doing interval cardio training, tabatas, and maybe some isometric work for muscular strength and working out my abs/back.

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Post-workout measurement taken today at 100% EQ: 8" BPEL. Didn't measure girth. I'm taking this as a sign that the routine's doing its job. I understand I've probably got some post-workout pump to the erection, but I can't help but be excited that I'm seeing that 8 on the ruler again. It's been months since that's happened and in - not even two weeks? - of this new, simple routine I've got that back (at least post-workout anyway). I haven't measured non-post workout (never really in the mood), but I don't really care what that size is because I feel like I'm gaining that 8" measurement back. I think I'll take an "official" measurement (meaning not post-workout) in 2 or 3 weeks. Hopefully I'll break 8", but I'm pretty happy with my size increases so far.

My EQ's getting better and better. Diet's still crap. Haven't been exercising. I'm gonna start doing Ashtanga/Power Yoga daily soon here. I'm hoping to really stretch out my hips and release a lot of tension there, since I've got tight hips, especially from sitting at a computer desk all day. Yoga'll work my pelvic floor muscles too and stretch them as well as tone them, so I'm kinda curious to see what effect that will have on my EQ along with the kegels I do.

I'm going to be adding 2 min to stretching and jelqing this Monday. So far I haven't missed any days in my routine.

update: Measured 6 hours later and I'm still 8" bpel. Measured girth at 5.25".

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My internet's been out for the past 8 days and I've been completely consistent with my routine. I seem to have solidified 8" bpel. I'm hoping to see 8.25" bpel on the ruler at some point here. My penis is veinier, seems to hang well throughout the day. Not a whole lot new to report other than my routine seems to be doing well for me.

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Hey Keido. This mean I can call off the search party for ya now?
Good news about your gains. Keep on keepin on.

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Thanks, JP.

Internet went out again. I'm running through a bad batch of equipment, hopefully I'll get one that doesn't break down this time.

I've been keeping up with my PE routine - haven't missed a day at all. For the past week I've been doing a tighter grip during jelqing (I didn't notice that I was doing this), and found my EQ diminishing. I think I was a little lax with my kegels as well, which may have contributed to this. The past two days I've done lighter jelqing and my EQ's back to top notchedness though, so that's good.

I'm finding this works well for my kegels: never train to failure, but train frequently. Kegels haven't really helped me with my endurance during edging and stuff though, but they're great for EQ so I still feel they're quite important. Back when I was doing a 1 on / 1 off routine for kegels my EQ didn't improve, so the frequent not-to-failure training is optimal for me. I just kegel randomly throughout the day whenever I think about it. I'm going to have to start working on ballooning/edging for stamina at some point, but I haven't really been on the lookout or in a position to get a girlfriend so that's kind of on the back burner for now. I don't wanna overtrain my penis with an hour or more of ballooning, plus the time that it takes has kind of made it an 'I'll do that in the future' sort of thing.

Here's my current routine:
14 min Jelqing, 15 min stretching. I add 2 min to jelqing every 2 weeks, 3 min (1 stretch) to stretching every 2 weeks.
Right now I'm doing 14 min jelqing, 2X3 min Straight Out stretch, 2X3 min Straight Up stretch, 1X3 min Bundled Stretch (I like these). I warm up before my jelqing and before my stretches, but I just let my penis cool to room temperature as a cooldown. I've thought about using cold water, but I'm lazy.

Gonna start doing yoga soon. I'll be adding in poses that promote blood flow to the core and particularly the pelvis area, kind of curious to see if that'll help with gains at all, haha. My diet's been kind of back and forth, but I've gone down about 16 lbs and I'm still working towards more.