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Well, my power went out for the past four days so this has sort of been a good time to take a break, lol. It's been cold! Stuff seems back to normal now though, woohoo. I've decided to just keep going with the break through the holidays and start up again this coming Monday.

Merry Christmas, everybody!

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Starting my routine up tomorrow:

Done daily...
Morning:
Warm Up (10 min)
10 min Jelqing - focusing on intensity, getting large expansion with each jelq, slow strokes (10-30 seconds)
I want to really get a good post-workout plumpness, which I haven't done in the past. I both wanna increase my flaccid size and I think the plumpness throughout the day is a good indicator of growth.
+1 min to jelqing each week.
Gonna experiment with not warming down.

Night:
12 stretches held for 1 min each, +1 min to one stretch each week.
I might do these stretches cold (meaning body temperature, no major warm up, not intentionally cold). I used to do my stretches first thing, cold, while my heating pad was warming up and that was at a time when I made gains, so I might experiment with that a bit. Of course, I don't want to injure myself, but I don't know if my stretching will really be enough to do much injury - I don't pull very hard.

My diet should be getting back in order soon here and I'm going to begin exercising as well. I haven't been taking any supplements, but I'm considering it. My EQ seems to average 9-10. I need to be more consistent with my kegels.

My new measurements are:
BPEL 7.5"
EG: 5.25"

I've changed my measuring tool to a measuring tape for both BP and EG measurements - I believe I was cheating myself with the ruler by measuring it a bit upwards from where I should have been, which created more length for me with the angle of the ruler. I'm making 8" BPEL my first goal and I KNOW I'll get there with consistency. I'm just going to stay positive about it.

The other possibility is that I've lost some size from this short decon and I'll just gain it back soon, heh. I'm hoping this is the case, lol.

EDIT: Actually, I'm more like 7.75" BPEL with the measuring tape. So it's either faulty measuring or some size loss from my recent break, but it's not that large of a loss as I originally thought. I got to 5.375", but not really consistently, so I'm sticking with 5.25" EG for now.

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I've been playing around with jelqing for the past few days here. Today seemed to be the most beneficial of all the jelqing days, I seem somewhat engorged throughout the day today. I'm still going to work on my jelq technique, but right now it's:
80% erect
Tight manual clamp at the base
Very slowly slide the grip towards the glans - I have to use vaseline for this, baby oil doesn't do the job with this tighter grip.
Each stroke takes about 15 seconds. I think I'm gonna work up to 30 second strokes, if I can.

I'm really trying to work towards some actual expansion - where my dick is actually BIGGER post-workout, as opposed to just being a normal size. I'm really beginning to think that a requirement for me to see gains is to have an actual size increase with the workout.

I've only been doing this for about 5 min. I figure if I can make gains with as little work as possible, then that's good. I don't want to jump up the volume of my work too quickly and stall out gains for myself. This jelqing is definitely more intense too and I don't want to overwork.

I'm going to be keeping track of my PI's in a manual notebook.

I'm also doing gentle manual stretching at night, whereas I do jelqing in the morning. I do a 10 min warm-up with jelqing, but I've been doing my stretches cold (meaning body heat warm, I don't intentionally make it cold) lately. I'm curious to see if that has any effect on my gains. I used to do stretches cold all the time as a newbie, so it might be more beneficial for me to do them that way.

edit:
I forgot to mention - I've still been unable to get a 100% erection level directly after jelqing, so tomorrow I'm going to experiment with the long stroke time with more of a moderate/less intense grip. My EQ's been suffering recently, I'm not sure if this is because of overtraining, but I'm going to focus right now on getting my EQ back up. Another goal is to work my kegels toward easily-held 1 minute holds.

edit 2:
I'm putting my notes down here so I don't lose them.
IDEA:
Working up the intensity of jelqing
10-20 minutes of light, moderate intensity jelqing.
Say working up to 20 min from 10 minutes.
Cap at 20 minutes,
begin upping the stroke time.
Start:
3-5 seconds
5-10 seconds
10-15 seconds
15-20 seconds
20-25 seconds
25-30 seconds
30 seconds+
Possibly cycling these routines... 30+ seconds might be more intense, for growth, not so hot for the EQ... so do like 3 weeks of growth with 1 week of EQ work to get things in shape again? Assuming that 30+ seconds has a detrimental effect on EQ.

On the issue of rest days:... a) girth may require rest days [depends on intensity?] b) it may be more beneficial for lengthening exercises to not have rest days.
As long as you're healing up I think daily exercise is fine - reminder to self that I gained most of my gains on a 5 on / 2 off routine.
Check EQ... hopefully you'll get nice flaccid pump and perhaps engorgement from your sessions. This is a good goal to work toward - high EQ, fat flaccid throughout the day could be a sign of gains. Getting engorgement during the workout and post-workout.
Another rest day idea is doing a light routine that allows for healing, a possible "under training" routine that's good for EQ and general blood flow, health, etc. Would probably just be incredibly light and soft jelqing and kegels.

So, now with this new baseline, you can slowly increase your PE in whatever force/time variation you choose. My only note on that is I truly believe that if you are unable to get a good erection when you are done, it is probably too much.

Proper Attitudes to Help Growth

I think that it is important to get your attitude right, to increase your chances of success.

I think it is best to put GROWTH aside from your mind and go for a HEALTHY dick! [By doing that, you have a much greater chance of growing a big dick too!]

That is to say, go for easier, harder more frequent erections [Erectile Quality or EQ], along with a heavy flaccid...I might add, a constant slight hornyness too.

I say that because, almost universally, if you have your routine "in the zone" you will experience that.

If you are in "the zone" that gives you the BEST chance of growth.

Once you have the above PIs...gradually increase time/force while MAINTAINING those positive PIs.

This will allow you to find your ideal time/force, while avoiding excessive time/force that stops growth and can actually result in shrinkage.

If you begin to see diminution of those positive PIs...either stop the progression of your routine (time/force) or BETTER YET, take an extra day off and go back to the last productive parameter you were using.

It may be slow at first, but you will experience the benefit of more powerful dick, which in itself is great and great for better sex.

This alone is a wonderful immediate benefit, while working on the longer term benefit of a bigger dick.

By using a scientific progression of time/force, you are almost guaranteed to find a productive routine, and be able to stay in it far better and longer.

By rushing into your best guess, and constantly changing...it could be YEARS to find a productive routine...IF EVER!!!

Also, I advise guys to separate PE from entertainment.

That is to say, develop a scientific basic plan and SLOWLY increase time/force while maintaining positive PIs.

If you get carried away with your time/force because it feels good ( and God knows that it can), you can totally blow your routine and progress.

Further, I advise guys to stay away from chemical/vitamin enhancers (cialis, viagra, arginine etc) UNTIL they get a read on what their routine is doing as far as their PIs.

If you artificially enhance your erection, you will have no idea if you are overtraining...it will be masked by the chemical.

I truly believe that a healthy dick will grow much faster, better and safer than a beat to shit one.

I think any method of applied force to the penis can be productive if you understand what you are trying to do...and how to go about it in a scientific manor.

I just want to add one more thing...NEVER change a routine that IS resulting in progress!!!!!!

Wait until progress slows greatly or stops, then incrementally increase it until progress starts again.

The other alternative is to take a one or two week break and resume the routine that stopped working.

The time off is probably the wisest option to try first.

If during the break you make some gains...it reinforces the idea that you will benefit from occasional breaks more than increased time/force.

It is also an possible indicator of overtraining.

If you find you lose some progress during the break...shrinkage...it is a good indicator that you need to increase your time/force.

Its also best to try to break a growth plateau with increased time first, before trying increased force.

In the long run, the less force we use to achieve growth, the less likely to induce a fibrotic/toughening response that eventually will mandate a long deconditioning break.

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Woke up today and had a great erection to measure with and ended up BPEL 7.75 x 5.375 - 5.5 EG. After seeing that I decided to stick with the tighter squeeze while jelqing. I'm gonna continue with it for another couple of weeks, hopefully I'll see some size increase. I've been doing a lot of kegeling recently and my EQ's jumped up from that, so my tighter squeeze jelqing doesn't seem to be having a detrimental effect.

I was able to get a 100% erection level post workout today. I found that I contracted somewhat post-workout (perhaps the cold?), but a few minutes later I hung longer and slightly plumper than my normal flaccid. I'm going to do kegels periodically throughout the day to keep this plumpness.

I'm wondering if the faster strokes for jelqing work length whereas the slower ones work girth. I'm finding that the tight slow squeeze is kind of like an Uli you push up to the glans, it gives a very good engorgement during the exercise, very pumped and full of blood. If I find that I don't gain length while doing the slow jelqing I might do a split routine of 3-5 second jelqing with 10+ second jelqing in different sessions. This is assuming of course that I don't make length gains through my stretching, or even from the slow jelqing. Hopefully it'll be a non-issue, heh.

Right now I'm not taking any supplements. I want to dial in my routine to see if I can get the omega EQ, gains, etc. etc. without supplements, so I know that it's the routine and not just chemically induced. So far I'm going in a good direction, which is great.



Oh, and by the way, Happy New Year everybody.

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Bit of an update. I haven't gotten a huge expansion post-workout or a larger flaccid plumpness throughout the day, so I'm going to switch over to a lighter grip to experiment. I wasn't able to get 100% erection level directly post-workout. I'm not sure if this is overworking or just low horniness, though I'd say I don't have a problem getting 100% erect before the workout.

I'm a bit frustrated right now, but I figure if I can nail down the jelqing technique that gets me a heavier flaccid hang and expansion during/post-workout then I'll see some gains.

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New update. I'm changing my routine around a bit. I'm going to have a progressive routine, which I'll lay out below. The largest difference in this routine is that I'm taking rest days between girth sessions. I'm going to experiment with this because I've found that the only time I've ever gained girth was when I was on a MWF schedule. Given, I was doing that for about four months, but at the time my jelqing technique was the quick jelqs and I wasn't even doing any stretching at the time. I've been doing a lot of researching over at Thunders and have noticed in the past few days a trend (at least in the things I've been reading) - girth requires rest days, whereas length can be worked daily. This could help explain my quick length newbie gains - I was on a 5 on / 2 off schedule for the entire thing, other than the first 2 weeks (where I gained 1/4" in length). I was doing faster jelqs (3 seconds) then as well, which I feel have more of an effect on length than girth for me.

In the past, on a MWF schedule I find that I have a better flaccid hang. I'm expecting this to come back with my new routine. I'm going to be doing lots of stretching with this new routine, so I'm expecting to make length gains as well.

I will be doing a split routine. Stretching in the morning, jelqing at night. My reasons for this is I have more privacy/time at night and I can finish the session off with edging if I feel like it. I'm going to be starting with a lighter routine and work my way up. I'm going to implement a week-long deconditioning break after every 4 weeks (4 on / 1 off).

My work days are as follows:
Girth: Monday, Wednesday, Friday
Stretching: Monday - Friday (5 on / 2 off) - I may do this daily in the future, depending on my results.

Girth Workout: 10 min Jelqing - 5 second strokes, firm grip. I will be working up to 30 second strokes. I am going to add 2 min every week.
Stretching: 5-way Stretches (Out, Left, Right, Up, Down) - 2 minutes each, +15 seconds to each stretch per week. Work up to 5 min holds, then begin adding other stretches. I may do "Intense" stretches (held for, say, 30 seconds) in addition to these at some point. I'm going to experiment with just the more moderate/gentle stretch held for long times now though.

I will be doing a 5 min warm up and a 5-10 min warm down for both the girth sessions as well as the stretching sessions.

I will not be taking any supplements, since I want to watch my PI's and make sure that my EQ is not artificially enhanced. I believe this was the case when I was taking Ginkgo and L-Arginine in the past and I overworked my penis unknowingly.

I am determined to make 9" BP X 6" EG, minimum, this year. I will do this.

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I haven't checked back in for awhile! I've actually decided to take a deconditioning break here (since my last post), since I noticed I hadn't taken a long one in awhile (just short ones here and there). I've had some positive PI's since taking my time off too, larger flaccid, improved EQ, all that good stuff. I'm going to continue my deconditioning break into February, where I will begin my new routine.

I'm following the same plan as outlined above, except for the progressive part of it. Instead of adding in 1 min per week I'm thinking about going by "feel" - that is, working until I feel that I've gotten a good workout, rather than going with strict numbers and measurements and so on and so forth. I'm planning on doing 2 weeks at the outlined routine and then implementing my "going-by-feel" idea. With all of this I will be checking PI's and staying smart, hopefully I'll become much more in tune with my penis and make some consistent, steady gains over the course of the new year here.

I am thinking about cutting back my stretching to a MWF schedule as well - doing a split routine, stretching in the morning and girth at night. My reasoning for this is my planning to go with the going by feel, meaning that my sessions will likely fatigue my penis quite a lot. I think having a full day of recovery between sessions will be better for this, however I'm not sure. I may try a MWF schedule to begin with and if I don't make flaccid/length gains from stretching then punch (the stretching) up into a daily routine, depending on PI's.

My thoughts are a bit jumbled on all of this, but I think I'll come to a decision soon. The idea of starting out with less and adding more is more appealing to me, so I can knock stuff up or down depending on how my PI's fluctuate.

This deconditioning break has been a nice mental break from PE as well. I've been getting a bit over-stressed about PE recently, since it's been so darn long since I've made any (new) gains, continuously fluctuating between 7.5 & 8" BPEL. I believe that my most recent routine has cemented 7.75" for me though, which is pretty neat. I'm feeling pretty refreshed and ready to get back to it in February.

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Hey guys! Deconditioning break has gone pretty well so far, although I think my EQ's dropped a bit from what it was when I was doing PE, which makes sense. I always seem have a better EQ generally when I'm consistent with kegels and jelqing and I've been really inconsistent with kegeling over this deconditioning break. I'm starting up a new routine tomorrow!

Here's the plan:
Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday ON. Mon, Wed, Fri off.

Starting at 5 min of 5-way stretching.
Starting at 10 min of Overhand OK grip jelqing, comfortable and slow, enough for expansion but sticking in that comfort zone. I'm gonna try to keep two hands on my penis at all times during the jelq to see if I get a better expansion with that technique. This generally makes my hands pretty sore though.
20 min Warm-up with Medium setting heat on a heating pad. 10 min Warm down after the exercises. I'm curious to see if this longer warm up will help me out at all. I figure I've got the time for it though so why not give it a shot?

Progression:
After two weeks I'm going to add 10 min of jelqing and 5 min of stretching. After two weeks if I show no signs of gains I'm gonna up it by another 10 min jelqing and 5 min stretching and so on and so forth until I see some gains. I'm kind of curious to experiment with a high volume, low intensity workout to see if that helps with gains. Oh, also for the progression, if I make some gains I'm not going to add to the volume of my routine until I plateau with that volume, then I will add more to start gains up again.

That's the idea, anyhow.

Here's an example
Week 1: 10 min jelqing, 5 min stretching
Week 2: 10 min jelqing, 5 min stretching
Week 3: [No Gains]: 20 min jelqing, 10 min stretching
Week 4: 20 min jelqing, 10 min stretching
Week 5: [GAINED!] sticking with 20 min jelqing, 10 min stretching
Week 6: 20 min jelqing, 10 min stretching
Week 7: [No gains, gains plateau]: 30 min jelqing, 15 min stretching
Week 8: 30 min jelqing, 15 min stretching

And so on.

I'm in a good mood and looking forward to starting PE again! It's kind of funny, I haven't gained in such a long time but I still do really enjoy doing PE. I suppose that's a good thing!

Oh, also I haven't lost any size over this deconditioning break. I think the PE I've done for the past few months has actually cemented 7.75" BP for me, so if nothing else that's a good sign. I think I'll give this 4 day/week routine a shot for awhile, but might experiment with a 7 day routine again in the future.

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Good luck with your new routine. Hope you gain a lot.

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Thanks jayhawk.

Little update for my routine I'll put here: I'm doing stretching after I jelq now. I'll do a quick stretch just before I jelq to loosen the dick up a bit, but I find that I can stretch my penis further after jelqing than if I stretch before I jelq. Oh, I'm also going to do a kegel routine during my 20 minute warm up. I got kinda bored last night sitting around for 20 minutes, but if I do a kegel routine then I'll feel good about multi-tasking. haha.

I'm changing up my jelqing technique here too: Grip at base, grip below glans and comfortably squeeze and hold for 5 seconds, begin the stroke from base to glans, release top grip, repeat. I'm thinking this will target girth more, kind of curious to see how sore my hands are going to get from this since my hands got hella sore from jelqing last night -- I think my hands decondition more easily than my penis, ha ha!

Also, I'm going to do a downward stretch for 60 seconds every time I go to the bathroom, even on rest days. I want to get into the habit of doing this because I'm going to begin doing turkey neck stretches at some point, so I figure an easy downward stretch is something I can stay consistent with, get in the habit of it, and then replace it with turkey neck stretches.

edit: I just wanted to make a note here of the fact that my penis already feels bigger after just one jelqing session. It's been about 5 weeks or so since I last did any PE and this has really made me notice the huge difference that jelqing does for me. I think that, even after I reach my goals, I'm going to continue a jelqing routine simply for the fact that it makes my penis much weightier and vascular for some reason. I measured about 5.375" EG today and I think about 7 7/8" directly after my jelqing session last night -- I was 7.75" today though. I'm taking this as a good sign.

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Okay, so I nixed the 5-second hold before each jelq. Just a bit too tedious for me - HOWEVER, the constant state of jelq really seemed to give me a pump afterwards, so I don't think I need to worry about not doing the 5 second hold. If I'm focusing on more of a girth routine I might implement it though, it's sort of like doing a mild squeeze for every jelq rep. Not right now tho'.

Like I said before, I got a good pump from all of this. I'm switching back to my ruler for BP measurements rather than the measuring tape. I find it easier to measure with the ruler and I think I can get 1/8" of nonexistent inch with the tape vs the ruler. I don't know if it's just a perspective distortion or if I'm unconsciously folding the tape up 1/8" when I press it into my pubic bone, but whatever. Ruler's more consistent. If I ever decide to take pictures I'd have to do it with a ruler anyway, there's no way I'd be able to take a picture and measure with a tape measurer.

I measured 7 7/8" BP directly after my workout.

I'm going to bump up my routine to a 7 day routine... I just really prefer it over an every-other-day routine. I'm gonna start this 7 day routine up tomorrow, meaning I'll continue what I've been doing, but do it every day from here on out. If I get negative PI's I'll go back to a 4 day routine though, naturally, I just really like the every day routine. No idea why, just feels better.

On the issue of plumpness: I think I've figured out what gives me my pump throughout the day -- it doesn't seem to be so much rest (although that helps) as it is HEAT and EJACULATION (oddly enough). Ejaculating seems to be the determining thing for me -- if I ejaculate early in the day it shrinks up for maybe a couple of hours (different from turtling, mind you), but after I relax and have some warmth (like being under a blanket -- I've been doing that a lot in the cold recently) it gets much looser and plumper than it normally is. I don't know whether or not this is beneficial for gains though... I've heard the "keep it plump" theory, which makes sense, and a looser, warmer flaccid is a nice thing so I'm not complaining. I'm going to do my 7 day routine with ejaculation -- in the past I didn't ejaculate while on the 7 day routine -- and see if my plumpness continues throughout.

I'm changing my warm up a bit... 20 minutes is just too long... I'm going with 10 minutes. However I'm going with 10 minutes on a HIGH heat, rather than 20 minutes with a medium heat. Soon here I'm gonna shell out the cash for a moist heating pad, I'm looking forward to using it and seeing if it helps with my warm ups/downs at all.

Also, I'm adding 15 minutes of edging to the end of my workout.

Here's what my routine looks like:
Every day (unless PI's get negative).
10 min Warm Up
10 min Jelqing - constant state of jelq, helps with engorgement.
5 min Heat
5 min Stretching - 1 min holds, a strong stretch without stretching too hard. It's a stronger stretch than the mild/moderate stretch I've been using in the past, so I'm curious to see what effect that will have. I'm still being very careful though and not stretching harder than what I think I'm able to handle.
10 min Warm Down
15 min Edging

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I'm posting this as a general look-see for the month of February (as well as the end of January) to see what I've done on which days, to see what results I got, and how many days I've taken off or how many days I've done the routine in a row, etc.

Week 1:
January 25/09: Off
January 26/09: Off
January 27/09: 20 min Warm up, 5 min Stretching, 10 min Jelqing, 10 min warm down
January 28/09: Off
January 29/09: 20 min Warm up, 10 min Jelqing, 5 min Stretching, 10 min warm down
January 30/09: 10 min Warm up, 10 min Jelqing, 5 min warm up, 5 min Stretching, 10 min warm down, Edging
January 31/09: 10 min Warm up, 10 min Jelqing, 5 min warm up, 5 min Stretching, Edging, 10 min warm down BPFSL: 8.25" Plump? No.
Week 2:
Feb 1/09: BPFSL: 8.25" Plump?: Yes.
Feb 2/09:
Feb 3/09:
Feb 4/09:
Feb 5/09:
Feb 6/09:
Feb 7/09:
Week 3: Check in - add to routine if no gains have been made. Check PI's... how's the pump? EQ - are erections easier, arousal levels higher, night and morning wood?
Feb 8/09:
Feb 9/09:
Feb 10/09:
Feb 11/09:
Feb 12/09:
Feb 13/09:
Feb 14/09:
Week 4:
Feb 15/09:
Feb 16/09:
Feb 17/09:
Feb 18/09:
Feb 19/09:
Feb 20/09:
Feb 21/09:
Week 5: Check-in #2.
Feb 22/09:
Feb 23/09:
Feb 24/09:
Feb 25/09:
Feb 26/09:
Feb 27/09:
Feb 28/09:
Week 6: ... March schedule to be made later.

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Felt some minor pain in my shaft during jelqing today. Grip's too tight - I'm gonna lighten it up. I think the "constant state of jelq" might be making me unconsciously increase my grip strength too, so I'm going to have to watch for that tomorrow night when I do my session. Gonna go with a comfortable, arousing grip (but not too arousing, of course, hehe) while jelqing instead of the tight one I've been using. I did the 5 second squeeze as an experiment before jelqing again today to see if I would get a larger pump post-jelq than I do just doing normal jelqing. I didn't notice a huge difference, but I think there is something of more of a pump... I think I'll use that technique when I'm focusing on girth, like I decided before. Just wanted to check it again tonight for some reason.

I'm gonna switch around my jelqing and stretching again. I'm going to go Heat > Stretch > Heat > Jelq > Edging > Warm Down. Reason for this being I can just use the lube from jelqing while I edge. I've been doing dry edging the past couple of nights here and my penis just ain't having it, I can't really get 100% arousal completely dry. Also, and this is a little weird, but I ordered a vibrator (this little bullet one)... this was sort of after frustration of not getting 100% arousal with dry edging, so I don't know how handy it's gonna come in... eh, might be fun to use though.

Also I'm going to begin periodically kegeling throughout the day again. I have been neglecting my kegels and BOY is my BC muscle weak. I can't even hold a 20 second kegel. I'm gonna start a kegel routine during my warm up as well.

My flaccid plump wasn't very plump today (though I would say it was longer than normal). I'm always back and forth on the issue of plumpness throughout the day. I think I'm just gonna go forward and not worry about it. I've never really noticed an increased flaccid plumpness when I've gained in the past and I was plump all throughout my deconditioning break and didn't gain anything (some men do make gains after overtraining), so it may not make a difference for me. I think if my flaccid pump doesn't return I may consider taking a couple of days off to see if it does return right off and that may be a sign of overtraining... I don't know though. I'm not turtled or anything, just lacking that chubbed engorgement. Maybe it's because my BC muscle is weak and kegels will help remedy it. Anyhow I'm just thinking to myself here.

edit: Re-reading this I have to say, "Dumbass! You felt some pain in your shaft during jelqing and you're going to continue without resting?" Jeez. I'm taking a couple of days off. This'll be an interesting experiment to see if my flaccid pump comes back. If it does I'll do my 4 day/week routine as opposed to an every day routine. If it does, I'm going to take the lack-of-plumpness as a sign of overtraining.

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My plumpness has returned today, so actually I'm gonna go forward with my routine and do my session as I normally would tonight. I have no pain in my shaft during edging or anything so I don't think I've injured myself jelqing last night, probably just a funny pinch. Still going with my comfortable grip with jelqing tonight though.

I've also added a daily BPFSL measurement and a yes/no plumpness check to my daily check post above. This way I'll see if my BPFSL increases when my erect length does. Normally my BPFSL is anywhere from 1/4 - 1/2" longer than my BPEL. My BPFSL going up may be a sign of gains to come, which is why I'm keeping track of it. I'll measure it before I do my routine daily.

I'm doing kegels periodically and that seems to have increased my flaccid plumpness. Added blood flow = faster healing = gains? Perhaps... guess we'll see what happens!

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Oops well it looks like I can't edit that post anymore. I'm just gonna keep a log of that manually in a notebook here. I've decided to go another week with the everyday routine. If I don't make gains by the check-point and my plumpness hasn't returned I'm going to knock my routine down to 4 days/week. My edging session was a disappointment today because even using a lube I wasn't able to get that 100 - 110% erection I'm looking for. My arousal levels were just sort of low... I don't know if this is overworking my penis - it doesn't seem like 10 minutes jelqing and 5 minutes stretching would do that... perhaps it's an accumulation though, that 24 hours may not be enough healing time for my penis, perhaps. This is interestingly frustrating because I used to do edging directly after the session back when I was a newbie on a 5 on / 2 off schedule. We'll see what happens... bottom line is gains for me right now, if I'm too fatigued to edge directly after a workout then so be it. I'm mostly doing the edging for possible increased gains anyway.

I'm thinking about abstaining from ejaculation for awhile, since my EQ usually goes through the roof when I do that.

edit: After mulling over it for awhile I think I'm going to go back to my 4 day/week routine. I should have just kept with that originally, but I get impatient. Well, this is a good time to start anyway since I take Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays off. I'll just chill tomorrow. Might do a hot wrap to see if that promotes healing, but I probably won't remember to do it.

This lack-of-plump started after doing the routine for 3 days straight, so I think that might be my limit for how many days in a row I'll go.