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[JonPop Retired Sr. Administrator PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close JonPop]

Good news on the weight loss K. I hope you are doing your stretching before you Jelq.

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I do them after I jelq. I find I get erect too easily if I do them pre-jelq. I'm following the routine of this big gainer and he did very gentle stretches held for long times (2-3 min) AFTER jelqing, so I'm curious to see what kind of difference that will make for me. I gained my 8" back very quickly so it seems to be doing the trick for me so far.

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Been jelqing too erect and I have some pain in the shaft if I ever do a hard edging session, so I'm going to take the rest of this week off to heal up. I'm going to start back with a 6 min Jelq / 6 min stretching routine next week and add 3 min to jelqing & stretching every 3 weeks.

Routine'll look something like this:
Heat (5 min)
Jelqing
Heat (5 min)
Stretching - 3 min stretches, very gentle, moving gently into a maximum stretch but not tugging hard or pulling hard.
Heat (5-10 min)

If I have time I might do 20-30 min of edging after jelqing, but I'm not sure. I might try edging at night or something, but we'll see how that works out.

I have found this cream that's used for diabetic's feet to improve blood flow to them. I've seen one PE'er use it and it sounds like it's the same effects as the Enlargel cream - improved flaccid, more full of blood and plump throughout the day, warming sensation. I'm going to get some next month - it's like $10 in comparison to $60 for the enlargel, so that's a much friendlier prospect on my poor wallet.

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I haven't fully healed yet, however it's better then it was a few days ago, so I'm going to take another week off and then get back into my routine as outlined in the previous post.

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I seem to be healed, but I'm going to continue taking the rest of the week off anyway just to be sure of a full recovery. I'll start up my routine on Monday.

edit: I'll outline my routine here...

Daily:
10 min Heat
Jelqing (between 40-75% EQ, no higher than that)(slow, gentle strokes, trying to get a bone-pressed jelq)
5 min Heat
Stretches (held for 3 min each rep)
5 min Warmdown

Mon, Wed, Fri:
During the 10 min warmup, constantly kegeling. I'll eventually move up to kegeling during warmdown, second heat, and warm up.

Supplements:
Multi-vitamin (Mon-Fri)
60mg Ginkgo Biloba (Daily)
Eventually I'll get that Diabetic foot cream and use that too.

I'm going to begin with 6 min of Jelqing and 6 min of stretching, adding 3 min to each of those every 3 weeks. If I don't get any gains after 12 weeks of this I'll boost up the duration of the jelqing and stretching as an experiment. I'm kind of worried I won't be doing enough, but since I'm doing this daily I want to make sure I don't overwork my penis, so I think it'll balance out.

I'll measure at the end of the week to see if I've lost my 8" bpel with the recent rest I've taken. I figure if I have I'll gain it back pretty quick though.

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Quick update: measured 8" bpel x 5.25" eg, looking forward to beginning my routine up again tomorrow.

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Decided to up my jelqing and stretching to 12 min each, since I felt my 6 min each workout this morning wasn't up to standards. I'm still focusing on jelqing technique, trying to perfect that.

5 min Warm Up - kegeling during the warmup
(12 min) Jelqing
5 min Heat
(12 min) Stretching - 12 o'clock, 9 o'clock, A, V @ 3 min each (very gently held, easing into maximum stretch)
5-10 min Heat

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Hey, it's been awhile since I've checked in. Good news is I've been consistent with my PE'ing routine, bad news is my diet went to hell and I've probably gained back everything that I lost over the past few weeks here (holidays!).

Here's the updates in my routine:
Grip: moderate to intense grip for the past few days. I get a way plumper post-jelq flaccid and I'm feeling much more of a blood flow through the penis as I'm jelqing. Vein-age has increased, especially during the jelq, but when I'm erect I find my penis to be more veiny. I've also switched back to an Overhand OK grip, jelqing while I'm sitting up in bed, with vaseline.

Erection Level during Jelqing: I've been going on the side of lower erection levels recently, but I jelq anywhere from completely flaccid to 90% EQ (but not often), the average erection level I'd say is around 40-60%. With the stronger grip I've been using I get WAY more pumped, especially in my glans. My glans size has increased (though glans size changes a lot, of course), it's much more round and mushroomy, lol.

Size: easy 8" bpel. For the past week or so I've been at 7 7/8" bpel, whether it was because of poor EQ or a little bit of size loss from that healing up break, dunno, but I've got my full length back. The girth seems larger the past couple of days since I started up that more intense grip. I have trouble keeping a consistent EG measurement, but a couple hours after my workout today I was at about 5.375 - 5.5" EG (I think anyway), so I'm hoping that I might get some girth increases here with the stronger grip I've been using. I'm still calling it 5.25" EG until I see a consistent gain on the measuring tape though.

Injuries: doin' fine, no pain.

EQ: doing great, I really find that short kegels do the best EQ trick for me.

Routine:
5 min Warm up /w heating pad
20 min Jelqing (+3 min every 3 weeks) - I upped this from 6 to 12 to 20 min.
5 min Heat
15 min Stretching (+3 min every 3 weeks) - One stretch is held for 3 min, totaling 5 stretches right now: 9 o'clock, 12 o'clock, V-Stretch, A-Stretch, Bundled.
5 min Warmdown + kegeling during warmdown

I'm gonna be doing 23 min jelqing & 18 min stretching starting Monday. I haven't decided yet whether I want to start stacking my stretching time or if I want to add in rotary stretches (left, right, down). I'm kind of leaning to the rotary stretches since I'm curious to know if stretching in all of those angles will help or not. I don't know if I'm doing the V and A stretches wrong, but I don't feel much of a stretch from them. I've heard they're supposed to be very good for gains though, so I'm gonna work on my technique with them. I've heard of guys using a sock for leverage instead of their hand, I might try that and see if it gives more of a stretchy feel at all.


edit: I may add in JP's Tunica Tugs to my stretching routine too.

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Measured bpel 8 1/8" x 5 3/8" eg post-jelq today. *happy dance*

[Hairtrigger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hairtrigger]

Thats some great news Keido, good to see you back to. I've been wondering where you got off to and was hoping everything was going good for you but it looks like you got everything under control. Keep up the good work. HT.

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Thanks Hairtrigger!



I measured today: 8" bpel x 5.375" EG. This wasn't post-jelq, so I'm calling this a gain for now.

I've been reading Mantak Chia's Multi-Orgasmic Man recently, plus reading up on multiple male orgasms over on Thunders 'n' stuff. I think eventually I'm going to make it a goal for myself to become multi-orgasmic. I'll work on that while I work on stamina.

I'm back on my diet today, I've decided at the very least that I'll do intermittent fasting if I can't dodge holiday foods. I won't go out of my way to have bad food though, lol. Haven't begun exercising yet, but I'm planning on starting yoga soon.


I've added a downward stretch into my routine, but I haven't been liking it much so far. I think I'll keep up with it for another week, but unless I start to feel something good from it I'll just scratch it from the routine and replace it with another stretch.

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I reached 8.25" bpel x 5.375" EG today.

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I'm switching my routine around a bit. I'm going to do Stretching > Jelqing > Ballooning/edging. I'm changing my stretches and jelqing because I find it easier to go straight from jelqing to ballooning, since I'm already lubed up & etc etc. I'm hoping this will help with plumpness and the ballooning will aid my gains. When my routine starts to get too long I'll split it into a Morning/Night routine where I do stretches in the morning and jelqing/ballooning at night. I'm going to refrain from ejaculating, I need to work on my stamina.

Also, I'm going to start taking my BPEL with measuring tape from now on instead of with my ruler, so I'm going to take new BPEL measurements either tonight or tomorrow.

I'm currently doing 25 min of jelqing and 24 min of stretching.

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Keido,

Good luck with you switching your routine

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Thanks Dustpan.

A bit of an update - I'm gonna take a few days off, I'll start up again on Monday. I think I've upped the volume too quickly the past couple of weeks here, had some slight (nothing serious) pain in my penis. I was unable to get a 100% EQ post-workout last night, so I'm definitely taking that as a sign of overtraining. I read somewhere over on Thunders that a good rule of thumb is if you can't get 100% erect post-workout then you're doing too much work. I think this is especially the case for me considering how many days I do my workout.

I've forgotten that the principle behind my routine is slow, progressive volume over a long time - enough for growth, but not injury; I don't have to have very intense sessions because I do my sessions so often. Sometimes I get a little caught up in my routine and I think that seeing 8.25" BPEL on the ruler made me spazz and pump up the volume of my routine too much, thinking that "more is better", which really isn't the case.

Again, I'm not injured, just taking a few days off to rest up and I'll restart my routine at a lower volume. However I did find that I had a better plumpness post-workout doing jelqing second rather than stretching, and going from jelqing straight into ballooning would have worked out well for me if I was able to achieve a 100% erection (I only got around, I'd say, 60% or so - it was also very late, like 2 AM, so I think my being so tired was another factor in my EQ).

Starting back at in on Monday:
10 min Heat
10 min Stretching
5 min Heat
15 min Jelqing
20+ min Ballooning/Edging

Instead of jumping my routine up a number of minutes every few weeks, I'm gonna add in 1-2 minutes every week, as a gradual progression over time so hopefully that way I don't ever stall out. I'm leaning towards 2 min a week, but I might start off with 1 min a week and see if that gives me any gains and if not I'll bump it up to 2 minutes a week.