Stan's stretching journal

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OK I get it now, but I still don't see how just pushing down on that soft elastic tissue could change anything. It's not like it's pulled anywhere close to tight when I stretch.

But also, for our intents and purposes, it would seem to me we are trying to see how much we can increase the NBPEL so we can see or use more (you have more than enough...but for the rest of us...lol). If the NBPEL is not increasing then all we are really saying is "look how far I can pull forward my fascia and tissues away from my body". That stuff can all go forward. Woman do it in pregnancy... but is that what we are really after? Then also if you keep pulling everything forward and weaken the wall, the abdominal contents could just expand into that space. Just something to consider.

When standing with the weights, I don't fel the fat pad (and fascia behind it) being pulld straight out like in sitting but I tried to tighten my abdominal muscles and I can feel the weight connected all the way through the abdominal muscles....so it's all connected.

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For all you know, the ligament could stay the same length and you could pull more and more of the fascia off the abdominal wall whereas when you hold it down, there is no choice but to stretch the ligaments. IMO, without doing that you just don't know.

Well I stretch with both hands anyway (for better grip and better force distribution), so that settles the question as far as I'm concerned

Thanks for teaching me that fascia stuff though, I had no idea. I guess that's what we see on that Criss Strokes guy, right? Fortunately I don't have any of this happening, the outermost part of my fatpad is definitely the lig, right there in the middle

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Well I stretch with both hands anyway (for better grip and better force distribution), so that settles the question as far as I'm concerned

Thanks for teaching me that fascia stuff though, I had no idea. I guess that's what we see on that Criss Strokes guy, right? Fortunately I don't have any of this happening, the outermost part of my fatpad is definitely the lig, right there in the middle

I'm always learning and researching too but what I see from the anatomy makes sense from what I'm feeling. The only thing I can think is if you are going to use 2 hands, you are probably going to get the most NBPEL gain from pulling down when you are not pulling at that fat pad. When I am standing and the weight is pulling down, the fat pad (as fascia sort of stay in place.

On Criss Stokes, I don't know what he did but I'm always looking to avoid that. LOL Maybe he accidentally pulled the ligaments that do come out away from the shaft. If he wasn't making sure it stretched wehre the base comes out maybe they separated from the rest of the fascia and just hang loose.

So what are you doing for condoms now bud? You are on the custom made one now right? ha ha. Probably $3 per condom. LOL They can hold you hostage What are you going to do? Either that or pregnancy? LOL

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Stan, you know what I noticed,they want us to pick up the weights by bending down and when I bend down and I;m leaning over, before I can stand up and straighten out, it looks exactly like that nasty Chis strokes thing. combo of ligaments and skin. So maybe he didn't care and hung that way or something.

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The only thing I can think is if you are going to use 2 hands, you are probably going to get the most NBPEL gain from pulling down when you are not pulling at that fat pad. When I am standing and the weight is pulling down, the fat pad (as fascia sort of stay in place.

Yeah, honestly though, I'm not really concerned about that (slight) NBP issue at the moment. What I need right now is more BPFSL, and to get that happening I have no other choice than to pull down anyway.

So what are you doing for condoms now bud? You are on the custom made one now right? ha ha. Probably $3 per condom.

Man, I hate condoms. The issue isn't the length, it's the girth toward the base. I've been thinking about going the MySize/TheyFit route, but both seem to use a material that's on the thicker end of the spectrum, and I hate that plastic bag feeling so much I'd rather deal with the stranglehold of normal XL sizes.
Seriously, I'd have no problems handing out 3$ for a very thin & very wide condom.

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Man, I hate condoms. The issue isn't the length, it's the girth toward the base. I've been thinking about going the MySize/TheyFit route, but both seem to use a material that's on the thicker end of the spectrum, and I hate that plastic bag feeling so much I'd rather deal with the stranglehold of normal XL sizes.
Seriously, I'd have no problems handing out 3$ for a very thin & very wide condom.

Ha ha buddy. The problems of the well hung!
I wonder what the last girth something like Magnum XL can carry is? That's the challenge with those condoms. They try to make it wide at the top and taper at the base so they don't slip off but most people get wider as they go toward their base. LOL If you watch the Howard Stern show that has Falcon (13.5 x 8 inch) he mentions a brand that doesn't feel like it's cutting off blood supply. Maybe you should find out what that is.


By the way, does it take you a long time to get to max? I've been noticing it takes me way too long. I'll be trying to hard then much later it will come. I get hard enough to use but it just isn't max. I guess I'm gonna need foreplay like a woman now if I want to get to max! LOL

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Yesterday kegels felt normal again, and full EQ was back. Not sure it looked any bigger, but there was a tremendous amount of pressure in the shaft's last couple of inches.

Does it take you a long time to get to max?

When EQ is good I can get there in seconds if I choose to. Not what I usually do though. I normally spend some time at my standard erection level first, then move up to higher levels and end my sessions with at least 15 minutes of continuous stimulation at max level, all the while avoiding strong involuntary kegels and never getting too close to the PONR.

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Yesterday kegels felt normal again, and full EQ was back. Not sure it looked any bigger, but there was a tremendous amount of pressure in the shaft's last couple of inches.



When EQ is good I can get there in seconds if I choose to. Not what I usually do though. I normally spend some time at my standard erection level first, then move up to higher levels and end my sessions with at least 15 minutes of continuous stimulation at max level, all the while avoiding strong involuntary kegels and never getting too close to the PONR.

Why do you avoid involuntary kegels and getting close to PONR?

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Why do you avoid (strong) involuntary kegels and getting (too) close to PONR?

So I can get to the highest erection level possible. I must be weird, but actual edging doesn't make me harder/bigger. As soon as strong involuntary kegels kick in I stop gaining erection level, but every time I manage to tame the kegelling and go on with the stimulation, I can get yet another percent. It's a fine line though, I'm always close to the PONR when I do that, but preferably never so close that I have to stop.

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Stan when you talk about standard and max, how do you control that? Are you thinking about thinking of (or watching) things that get you more excited?...or do you just mean stroking it a certain way? You talk like it's gears of a car. LOL

Also I noticed you said you do do some erect work. Some say stretching while erect is dangerous (blood vessels etc)...but the ligaments are slightly different when erect so I imagine some some land-marking help.

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Stan when you talk about standard and max, how do you control that? Are you thinking about thinking of (or watching) things that get you more excited?...or do you just mean stroking it a certain way? You talk like it's gears of a car. LOL

The gearbox is the pelvic floor, and I use different kinds of voluntary variations down there to shift gears

Also I noticed you said you do do some erect work. Some say stretching while erect is dangerous (blood vessels etc)...but the ligaments are slightly different when erect so I imagine some some land-marking help.

My only "erect work" is the time I spend at max erection.

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The gearbox is the pelvic floor, and I use different kinds of voluntary variations down there to shift gears

Now they will need to make driving school.

By the way, isn't it funny when women say knowing how to use the penis is more important than size? What are they talking about? They are just trying to make the smaller guys feel better. What is the complication. Either sit there or if it's your turn thrust in and then pull out, then thrust in. LOL If a guy doesn;t seem to know then it is their fault. They need to give feedback as to what they like, how deep, whether they want faster, slower, harder, whatever. Next time someone should call them out. Well the guy went in then out then when it was time to go in he went out again so that ended it. He did not know how to use it. LOL

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So I can get to the highest erection level possible. I must be weird, but actual edging doesn't make me harder/bigger. As soon as strong involuntary kegels kick in I stop gaining erection level, but every time I manage to tame the kegelling and go on with the stimulation, I can get yet another percent. It's a fine line though, I'm always close to the PONR when I do that, but preferably never so close that I have to stop.

Alright, I understand now. And by the way Stan, when I do a reverse kegel when erect and hold it, it causes maximum penis expansion, at least for me. Have you tried that? Maybe that could help you with that.

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Isn't it funny when women say knowing how to use the penis is more important than size? What are they talking about? They are just trying to make the smaller guys feel better. What is the complication.

IMO there's a lot of truth to it. You need to attentively study their reactions to any small changes in the spot you hit, the angle at which you hit it, thrusting power, and pace, and try to achieve the best combination at any given time, rather than just pound away mindlessly.

By "knowing how to use it" I'm pretty sure they mean much more than that though, i.e. not only the thrusting per se but any other erotic aspect you might be able to add to it, as well as all the "emotional" stuff, whatever that means ; and women being their logical selves, probably even foreplay.

Also, maybe a good part of "knowing how to use it" is paradoxically to assume that what worked for one woman won't for the next, and work from there.

They need to give feedback as to what they like

That's the hardest part, half of them don't and expect us to be psychics, so we have to work either at becoming psychics, or at getting them to communicate better.

When I do a reverse kegel when erect and hold it, it causes maximum penis expansion, at least for me. Have you tried that?

Yes, and I used to do it a lot, but these days I'm totally undecided about whether it actually does any good.
It sure feels nice, and if there were a way to know for sure that it's indeed the erectile tissue and/or the tunica that get expanded, I would certainly add it back to my erect routine.

In the meantime I think I'm going to stick with my "all natural" way of getting to max, and see if it's enough for something new to come out of that huge pressure I've been feeling in the last few inches of the shaft and the tip of the head.

(edit) Besides being able to get to what feels like actual max erection, the two big reasons why I've been staying away from true edging and erect RKs are that they always make it look like they're going to give me girth gains, and that they make my unit virtually unstretchable the next day.
I still do them from time to time, out of the recurring idea that maybe they had been key to my EL gains, but I always regret it afterwards.

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You need to attentively study their reactions to any small changes in the spot you hit, the angle at which you hit it, thrusting power, and pace, and try to achieve the best combination at any given time, rather than just pound away mindlessly.

Ha Ha...you traitor to take the women's side. LOL It really comes back to being willing to pay attention to feedback. She's gotta be comfortable letting you know what works and what doesn't. If shes fake and pretends she's enjoying herself when she's not, that what will lead to a bad experience...otherwise, it should be straight forward. LOL Ha ha...true they probably ARE sneaking foreplay into it. LOL