Stan's stretching journal

[Realman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Realman]

Any updates, especially on the bundle stretches ?

[km7 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close km7]

How many people have tried Stan's routine, and gotten some results. Plus doing what I think he called them shock stretches, where he pulls straight out then back, then out again with some force. Would this toughen the ligs, and it works for Stan but for us mere mortals it won't work for.
Also can someone repost the routines and changes throughout the years because this is a lot to read through.

[Stan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stan]

Time for an update. I can still easily make the tunica shifts happen but EQ takes a lot longer to come back now, even when going really easy with the stretching during the recovery.

I've noticed that when EQ is down jelqs feel "empty", and EQ gets better when jelqs start having some resistance to them again. This seems to be perfectly consistent with the tunica vs. smooth muscle theory.

For the last few cycles the next shift occurred when EQ hadn't fully recovered, so there hadn't been any measurable BPEL gains until yesterday, where I got a consistent 10"7/32 while still quite far from 100%.

Fat pad definitely sticks out more than it used to, in fact there's like a ball around the base that looks like it belongs neither to the shaft nor to the fat pad if it makes sense. I guess this is the main reason why it doesn't really look longer to me, I mean it kinda does but not nearly as much as the BPEL gains suggest.

In any case, contrary to what I thought at some point, there's been no girth gains so far, in spite of all the jelqing and bundled stretches. There's always a couple of days during the EQ recovery process where it will be thicker but thankfully it's temporary.

Stan what is your secret?

Stretching hard enough to deform the tunica.

Also what are your thoughts on extenders or ads, have you used them?

No, never.

After 5 months rough streching 10 min a day there is no even 1 mm progress

Maybe find a way to stretch harder?

Any updates, especially on the bundle stretches ?

They're just great, they don't feel as powerful anymore at my standard 360° but still more than powerful enough. I also do what I call the table stretch, where I anchor my hands on a table top and lean back, letting my body weight do the work. Pretty intense, a couple of shifts happened doing this.

Doing what I think he called them shock stretches, where he pulls straight out then back, then out again with some force. Would this toughen the ligs, and it works for Stan but for us mere mortals it won't work for.

I never got gains directly from the shock stretches, they were more of a warmup kind of thing.

Could you do an update on your routine?

Also can someone repost the routines and changes throughout the years

Nevermind the routine, what's important is you have to find a way to have a very good grip so you can stretch hard enough to deform the tunica. Forget about directional stretches, just stretch at the angle where you feel the most resistance until you feel something moving in there.

[R.c Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close R.c]

Stan, how often do you rest?

[MAG5 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MAG5]

Are you married? Girlfriend? If you’re still single, what are girls reactions when you pull that out 😂😂

[Realman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Realman]

stan any updates ?

[UglyBoy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close UglyBoy]

Hey Stan, don't know if you're reading this but you've really helped me with my routine.

I've taken up your habit and your advice of measuring BPFSL, and I've had the opportunity to see my BPFSL improve day after day. However, my BPEL hasn't followed suit. What's happening? My BPFSL is now nearly a full inch longer than my BPEL, and counting. Will my BPFSL keep increasing while my BPEL doesn't?

Have you run into a situation like this in your routine? Anyone else able to give some tips?

I mean, I've been doing 1000 side-to-side stretches, all in about 17 mins, with small breaks every 100 reps.

I know you were the first one to introduce to me the idea that 'an increase in BPFSL leads to an increase in BPEL', so I want to know more about the intricacies of this effect.

[pehello Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pehello]

So I made a little time-lapse gif from my measured pics.

It confirms that I've been "pushing it out" more and more over time when measuring, although the balls are farther out than they used to be, unfortunately.
Like I said before, a part of my published gains clearly comes from that change of position, probably 1/8" to 1/4".

Most striking though is the curve! I never fully realized there was such a difference...

Stan's timelapse gif of gains - Album on Imgur

Man that gif is awesome.

Just a quick question for you, Stan. When did the predominate portion of your gains come? Was it between 2012 and 2013? If so, have you been mostly maintaining these past few years? Or have you been actively attempting to gain all along, with the slowed progress typical of most PEers after the first year?

Thanks Stan. Very inspirational log and measurement gif.

[Dr. Dingus Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dr. Dingus]

In any case, contrary to what I thought at some point, there's been no girth gains so far, in spite of all the jelqing and bundled stretches. There's always a couple of days during the EQ recovery process where it will be thicker but thankfully it's temporary.

This caught my eye - have you thought that possibly the emphasis you've put on stretching may influence your larger extensive nominal increase over time in length? I'm just thinking out loud here: If length is what I have to gain AT MOST - I don't know if the risk is worth the reward... Again there are so many unknowns here.

Stretching hard enough to deform the tunica.

this sounds sort of risky to me. Today is my 3rd day starting with PE/kegels. I'm getting the hang of isolating the targeted muscles for kegels/reverse kegels - and am quite careful about over-training - yet I still want to exhaust my muscles. You are pretty adamant on deforming the tunica. Would you recommend doing something like this for a beginner like me? I haven't seen much discussion regarding warm-ups before you stretch. When you first began did you focus on warming up your dingus before stretching it? I'm curious here as many of the other routines - and beginner routines emphasize warm-up and warm-down

Nevermind the routine, what's important is you have to find a way to have a very good grip so you can stretch hard enough to deform the tunica. Forget about directional stretches, just stretch at the angle where you feel the most resistance until you feel something moving in there.

having a good grip for a good stretch was something I began to think about - and have been using real soap these past two days - again the whole tunica thing seems scary to me - could you elaborate or link somewhere that explains the effectiveness you've found in doing this?

I'm looking to gain girth, I've seen a few exercises I'd like to try after I get practiced up.


Has anyone else done this, or made their own workout adapted from things here that have seen gains in girth?

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this sounds sort of risky to me. Today is my 3rd day starting with PE/kegels. I'm getting the hang of isolating the targeted muscles for kegels/reverse kegels - and am quite careful about over-training - yet I still want to exhaust my muscles. You are pretty adamant on deforming the tunica. Would you recommend doing something like this for a beginner like me? I haven't seen much discussion regarding warm-ups before you stretch. When you first began did you focus on warming up your dingus before stretching it? I'm curious here as many of the other routines - and beginner routines emphasize warm-up and warm-down

I know it's a scary word, but he doesn't mean "deform" in the way you think. He just means stretch hard enough to elicit a change. But yeah, to do this, you have to stretch HARD. Most stretchers who have gained considerably have stretched HARD. Imo, with the injuries I've had hanging/high pressure jelqing, stretching hard enough to feel the ligs scream is a cakewalk.

having a good grip for a good stretch was something I began to think about - and have been using real soap these past two days - again the whole tunica thing seems scary to me - could you elaborate or link somewhere that explains the effectiveness you've found in doing this?

GOOD, that's really smart of you. It honestly took me months to learn this, but you need weight lifting chalk or baby powder. The resulting grip will change your whole workout to be 100x better.

As for the tunica -- search tunica tugs, A stretches, and bundled stretches. That's pretty much it.

Has anyone else done this, or made their own workout adapted from things here that have seen gains in girth?

My lowest girth was 5" at 16-17yo. Highest was 7". Currently 6.25" after a long time away from PE. Jelqing and squeeze workouts could get you to 6+, but the best girth workout for me was pumping, by far.

[Trapezius Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Trapezius]

I know it's a scary word, but he doesn't mean "deform" in the way you think. He just means stretch hard enough to elicit a change. But yeah, to do this, you have to stretch HARD. Most stretchers who have gained considerably have stretched HARD. Imo, with the injuries I've had hanging/high pressure jelqing, stretching hard enough to feel the ligs scream is a cakewalk.

Yes. After newbie gains you have to stretch hard to make deformation. Newbie gains can come with lighter force and they can be up to inch. But nobody has gained +2" by going easy and light.

[Dr. Dingus Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dr. Dingus]

sweet!!! thanks for the tips!

[kingdom4 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close kingdom4]

Love this thread, followed everything Stan does to a T with additional heating-warm up/warm down. I’m now bpel 9.25inch from 7.2nch. Stan the man, your contribution to this thread motivates me! Much appreciated!!!

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Btw I haven’t put any stats in bio, I hav no pics to prove my gains so I understand if my gains are not believable. At the end of the day Im smiling because I’m now looking big and I owe it all to Stans commitment and dedication to his “experiments”.

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Any updates for this thread or is it finished?