Stan's stretching journal

[Stan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stan]

I know I said I wasn't going to add any more BPFSL for now, but lately I had been reaching my max faster and faster, and the other day I just couldn't resist and did one more session.

So, max BPFSL is now 10"11/16. This seems to put a dent in my theory about BPFSL gains only coming from the repeated stretching performed after having hit max.

EQ was getting a little better but now it's worse than ever. Interestingly, just like with the previous BPFSL gain that started the bad EQ, it didn't happen on the same day as the gain but on the next.

The last 1/3 or so just won't fill up on its own, it basically wants to stay at a semi. I need to stay close to the PONR while adding some light kegel "pumping" just to eventually get it somewhat hard.

At that point it's definitely longer than it used to be at the same angle, but then I engage in my little push-down trick, which finally makes EQ much better but also gets the length down to the exact same old.

I'm pretty sure there will be EL gains as soon as I can get it to fill up naturally. Until then I just have to hope that the crazy pressure induced by the push-downs eventually does something. Now I keep some stimulation going while it's pushed down and it makes the pressure even greater.

[Realman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Realman]

Hey Stan, what is the logic for splitting your rotuine into 5-6 sessions vs doing it all in 1 go ?

What adjusts you have made to your routine to see this gain ?

[Stan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stan]

What is the logic for splitting your rotuine into 5-6 sessions vs doing it all in 1 go ?

The idea is to allow it to spend as much time as possible in an elongated state, i.e. where BPFSL is more than the default rest BPFSL. Even when not under tension, the tiny gain I make with each session stays there until the next, whereas with one big session it would have a lot of time to not only shrink back to default, but to settle there and get stronger, which it invariably tries to do when I can't stretch for a while.

What adjusts you have made to your routine to see this gain ?

I usually do some fine tuning as I go, depending on whether I gain some BPFSL with each session or not.
Current routine seems to be pretty optimized though, I haven't had to change anything in a while:

- hands and glans wash
- straight out lock stretch, 5s
- 45° up stretch, 20s
- downward stretch, 40s or longer if the grip allows
- left and right stretches, 5s each
- upward stretch, 20s or longer if the grip allows, ending at 45°
- downward stretch, duration depending on what's left of the grip
- straight out lock stretch, duration depending on what's left of the grip
- BPFSL measurement

All stretches performed with two hands, the left covering the right, for a better grip and more intensity.
Measurement performed with the left hand doing the stretch and the right hand holding the ruler.

[Realman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Realman]

Cool so that routine is done per session until you reach 5-6 sessions ?

Also you measure at the end of each session ?

What is the time spacing between each session ( is it done every hour) ?

[Stan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stan]

Cool so that routine is done per session until you reach 5-6 sessions ?

At least until I reach my max BPFSL. It usually takes 5-6 sessions, sometimes more when it's less stretchable for some reason. Stretchability is mostly affected by rest, edging and night wood apparently.

Also you measure at the end of each session ?

Yes, definitely the single most important part of my routine.

What is the time spacing between each session ( is it done every hour) ?

Every hour or a little more.

[Beefster Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Beefster]

Stan, hi, my name is Beefster. I just stumbled upon your progress log. I will start reading from the start. Thank you.

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UPDATE: There's little doubt anymore that I've made some BPFSL gains.
I get halfway between 3/8 and 7/16 without even pulling that hard, if I really go for it I can get very close to the 7/16 mark, and I can easily hit it in full right after a stretching session.

So I will keep this routine from now on:

-hands and glans wash for optimal grip
-optional BPFSL measure
-box stretch until glans starts to hurt, usually no more than 1 minute
-optional very short lock stretches straight forward at max power with both hands, one covering the other
-fully downward stretch with both hands until grip starts to fail, usually 40 seconds
-fully downward stretch again, stronger and obviously shorter
-optional gentle upward stretch with optional kegel
-50-60 shock stretches, straight forward plus a few lighter ones to the sides
-short fully downward stretch at max power
-horizontal then vertical power shakes
-optional few slow jelqs in case of semi at this point

This 4-5 times a day, more on weekends, plus lots of casual stretching, mostly downwards, and random kegels throughout the morning.

Is this the routine you are still doing? Im slowly moving towards the same sort of training where instead of 30-40min once a day, there would be multiple workouts of like 5min. Looking for pointers to create my own version of what u are doing in hopes of replicating ur results (at least to an extent).

[Realman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Realman]

What do you do if you reach you max BPFSL in lets say 2 sessions? Would you stop for the day or would you continue doing 3-4 more sessions trying to increase that max by lets say 1/16 inch gain thus creating a new max bpfsl?

[Stan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stan]

Is this the routine you are still doing?

Here's my current routine. It's still small sessions spread throughout the day.

Im slowly moving towards the same sort of training where instead of 30-40min once a day, there would be multiple workouts of like 5min. Looking for pointers to create my own version of what u are doing in hopes of replicating ur results (at least to an extent).

Maybe start by measuring your BPFSL a dozen times a day for like a week, to see if there are small variations that will help us organize your routine.
During that week do your workout at different times of the day if you can, and see how it affects your BPFSL.
Be sure to keep a log of the measurements and details.

What do you do if you reach you max BPFSL in lets say 2 sessions?

It always takes at least 5 sessions to get there.

Would you stop for the day or would you continue doing 3-4 more sessions trying to increase that max by lets say 1/16 inch gain thus creating a new max bpfsl?

Yes I would continue just like you say except the gain would be nowhere near 1/16", my measurements are so accurate and consistent that I notice differences down to the 1/64".

[Ilovemylife Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ilovemylife]

Hey Stan,
I was checking out your progress logs and I remember seeing a time-lapse gif. I visited the site where you uploaded the gif and it says that it has been deleted. Is there another link for the gif that you could post here or something?

[Stan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stan]

EQ is a lot better now but no 100% yet.

Is there another link for the gif that you could post here or something?

Here you go: Stan's timelapse gif of gains - Album on Imgur

[Lengthy77 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lengthy77]

I've read through a lot of your posts, I was wondering if the shock stretches were still apart of your routine? Personally, after reading most of your posts, I'll probably cut the jelqs out and focus on your guideline. Only those 4-6 sessions?

[Stan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stan]

Time for an update.

I've been gaining more BPFSL without even really trying, and more importantly without any downward stretching.

For some reason I can now exert a lot more force stretching straight out than I used to when I was plateaued, probably thanks to a better grip and/or the different position: now I only do a short lock stretch at the beginning of sessions to "initialize" the grip, then the main stretching is performed without the hip lock, bent over and with the arms and shoulders doing the work.

This is good news since I've always felt that straight out was the way to go, and indeed EQ took a hit with each little BPFSL gain, and for the first time in ages I think I'm seeing an increase in BPEL:

I'll know for sure I've made some gains when I reach past the 9"13/16 mark

Even though I still can't get to max erection I can now routinely reach 27/32", and I think I even hit a solid 7/8" a good number of times when EQ was better, although it could very well be due to measurement error, where I'd put the ruler slightly off center.

Unfortunately I can't confirm this right now because I'm in another phase of low EQ after my last bit of BPFSL gains (now a good 10"23/32).

I've read through a lot of your posts, I was wondering if the shock stretches were still apart of your routine? Personally, after reading most of your posts, I'll probably cut the jelqs out and focus on your guideline. Only those 4-6 sessions?

Now that I stretch very very hard, on most days the amount of stretching I can perform is limited by glans soreness, and the shock stretches are kind of hard on the glans so I had to dump them. I still think they're nice for loosening things up at the beginning of a streching session though.

About jelqing, I know I said I wouldn't ever jelq again but I went back at it in small doses hoping it would help with the low EQ, and it might have been playing a role in quickly getting it back to a decent state after each of my recent little BPFSL gains.

It would all be consistent with the tunica vs. smooth muscle theory: stretch first to deform the ligs and tunica (BPFSL gains) then jelq to expand the smooth muscle so it completely fills up the tunica again (BPEL gains after a phase of poor EQ).

[Realman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Realman]

So Stan you still getting gains with your ten minutes of intense stretching spaced through the day ?

I guess you really have found a way to always increase intensity despite the relatively short time spent stretching.

How long did this gain took to occur compared to the last bpfsl gain ?

[Stan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stan]

So Stan you still getting gains with your ten minutes of intense stretching spaced through the day ?

I guess you really have found a way to always increase intensity despite the relatively short time spent stretching.

Yes. I don't space them through the whole day anymore though, I usually just do 5 sessions 30-60 minutes apart in the afternoon, or 3 in the morning and 3 in the evening, depending on my work hours. Total daily stretching time is even way less than 10 minutes now that I basically only do one stretch per session, and I'm stilll seeing gains thanks to the very high intensity.

How long did this gain took to occur compared to the last bpfsl gain ?

It took longer because I wasn't actively pursuing it. The idea behind that new stripped down routine was just to have my unit in a moderately stretched state for my erect work so I'd have a chance to see EL gains.