Stan's stretching journal

[tspot180 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tspot180]

Stan, do you remember how long it took you to reach 10 inch BPFSL? i can t seem to find out from this journal...

[july Banned Find all posts View Profile Close july]

Stan, do you remember how long it took you to reach 10 inch BPFSL? i can t seem to find out from this journal...

I just went back to the first pages and watched how he make the bpfsl measure. Idk which way is best though his or how I do. I was 22cm doing his way pulling it slightly downward and putting the ruler directly above the penis on the pubic bone. My way im only 20.2 cm pulling it straight out at 90 degree angle from pubic bone and putting ruler 4cm above the penis.

[7to9 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 7to9]

I was just watching your videos Stan and noticed when i do the same exercise I have a lot of skin pulling from my pubic bone area while on your clip there is like no skin movement at the Pubic bone. I am not circumcised and feel when i shock stroke or pull i am pulling firstly the skin and not so much of the actual dick not sure how else to call it not familiar with all the terms you pro's use here ...do you get what i mean ? Pulling the foreskin back and grabbing it without skin is hardly doable so sensitive and painful -

[july Banned Find all posts View Profile Close july]

I was just watching your videos Stan and noticed when i do the same exercise I have a lot of skin pulling from my pubic bone area while on your clip there is like no skin movement at the Pubic bone. I am not circumcised and feel when i shock stroke or pull i am pulling firstly the skin and not so much of the actual dick not sure how else to call it not familiar with all the terms you pro's use here ...do you get what i mean ? Pulling the foreskin back and grabbing it without skin is hardly doable so sensitive and painful -

Then you need to get used to the pain and condition your glands and inner foreskin, pulling skin is not productive.

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I have the same problem and started using a towel to grab the front of my tool, its slightly better but still cant hold for longer than 20 seconds at a time. I dont know how he stretches hard 15-20 min damn

[tspot180 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tspot180]

I don t have a problem with holding a stretch longer than 30 secs, but i grab the glans, not the penis. I sort of grab under the glans right on the skin but with my thumb on the glans also, grabing both skin and glans..it doesn hurt or anything, neither any problems like loss of sensation have occured. Only when i stretch hard with both hands i use a small piece of medical cloth and that helps a lot as i can hold a two hand grip 30secs +

[hardcor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hardcor]

Stan what is your routine?
Is it just stretching for 15 minutes a few days a week and monitoring Pis?

[7to9 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 7to9]

Ok i think i found a way for me to do this while pulling the skin back, first i need to warm him up really good with a rice sock once hes warm i apply some dusting powder, then i can grab him by the "throat"and choke him for a while, but at this moment i can't do it longer than 5 min all day long. He gets very sensite after 2 - 3 30 second sessions then i finish off with some shock strokes and shake him up a bit - not sure where 5 minutes a day take me though

I don t have a problem with holding a stretch longer than 30 secs, but i grab the glans, not the penis. I sort of grab under the glans right on the skin but with my thumb on the glans also, grabing both skin and glans..it doesn hurt or anything, neither any problems like loss of sensation have occured. Only when i stretch hard with both hands i use a small piece of medical cloth and that helps a lot as i can hold a two hand grip 30secs +

[tspot180 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tspot180]

7to9
That s very good. Actually, i believe everyone has the same problem in the begining..i know i had! I rember starting to stretch it a few years ago but not "routinely" or anything near it. I heard about this in jail, as other guys were hanging water bottles, and was starting to pull it after pissing or jacking off or whatever, excuse my language...probably no more than 1-2 minutes a hole day and not every day..back then i could only stretch it about 18.5 cm max(don t know for sure, didn t measure), was younger though..anyway it was probably the best i could, would have never of managed a 30 sec pull, probably would have hurt myself doing so. This sounds kind of logical right? Hard in the begining, stretchier afterwards..the tunica

[tspot180 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tspot180]

Also, just for a "scientific" view, my BPEL was roughly the same, at max EQ probably still 20 cm +, and yet i had a 2cm + smaller BPFSL, i m guesing you have to improve your BPFSL 1.5-2cm for 1cm in erect state gains, i m only guessing based onf TGC theory info and other tunica facts...also, i don t get why it was supposably said that if you stretch it, it will go thiner, i wouldn t be surprised of girth gains reporting from people stretching!crazy EQ since stretching

[Praetorian Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Praetorian]

I'm still here, I've been waiting for something worthy of an update to happen but it doesn't come.

Basically I'm on a break, waiting for my best EQ to come back. It's been several months with no max erection whatsoever.

My current theory on my whole PE experience is that successful tunica stretching somehow disrupts the balance/synergy between the BC and IC muscles, maybe making them slightly shift from one another, or just preventing them to press against one another the way they should, in any case making the BC feel weak and like it doesn't occupy as much space as it should, in turn allowing abnormally "ample" IC IKs to happen, resulting in inadequate blood pumping/retention.

Things improve as soon as the BC muscle gets in better shape thanks to correctly focused strong kegels, i.e. targeting the BC only and as much "to the front" as possible.

So it's as though the BC needs to be rebuilt bigger/stronger/farther out with each gains cycle, until some point where it's just not possible anymore and the only way out is to stop all pull on the IC/tunica so things eventually "heal" back to what they were at the last successful EQ recovery/EL gain.

At that point resuming stretching will result in the same issue, so a long break is needed in order to regain some fresh "BC strength capital" thanks to lots of healthy, strong erections.

So I'm in the exact same plateau situation as in 2014 after my first gains streak. Right now I'm at the point where my general EQ has become pretty good again but I still can't get to 100% no matter what, the last inch or so before the head just won't get rock hard the way it should. Back then it came back after 5 months so I'm not worried even though it's been a bit longer than that already.

Very interesting Stan. I largely concur with your theory. I've done a lot of study into tissue (and body structures/systems in general). The tunica is incredibly tough. It can withstand enormous pressure. So, if we are applying sufficient pressure over time to alter it, that very tough layer is going to take some time to repair. I also agree with you that deformation of the tunica and resultant increase in the CCs alters function relating to EQ. I think that your approach is very sound. Your EQ will come back as you say...perhaps some months. PE definitely seems to be effective in cycles as you say. Best of luck from a fellow old schooler!

[Jason342 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jason342]

Stan i need advice! what technique did you use to gain an inch? was it just purely stretching or did you use an extender?

[tspot180 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tspot180]

Stan i need advice! what technique did you use to gain an inch? was it just purely stretching or did you use an extender?

He never used any devices. His routine has been manual stretching as he explained in the other pages here and also keeping a 100% erection for a while, doing kegels/reverse kegels while being erect(from what i understand). He said in his last posts what is the science behind his gains.

[Stan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stan]

Still here! Although my baseline EQ is now as good as ever, I still can't get to a true 100%, and I've clearly lost quite a bit of length, both BPFSL and EL. It looks like it has shrunk back to the way it was before my second gains streak.

The main issue has been a loss of sensitivity, and now that that's mostly back to normal I've started stretching again to recover some BPFSL (I've lost at least 1/8"). Nothing but bundled stretches seems to be working anymore. For now the stretching doesn't mess up my EQ, I'll try not to overdo it this time though.

[Stan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Stan]

I hadn't stretched straight down for a long time, and when I tried it the other day I was shocked how I wouldn't feel a thing even when pulling crazy hard.

It's likely that during all this time left alone, the lig has healed shorter and stronger, and is now a limiting factor again.

After just a few days of mostly SD stretches (still zero fatigue), pre-edging EL already looks a lot better.

It also made me discover that my EQ isn't as good as I thought: I think the tight lig has made the angle higher and so I've been confusing high angle for high level.
Now that the angle is more in tune with the actual level my unit feels a lot more like it used to, so that's still good news.

No BPFSL improvement so far, it's exactly 1/8" from my best.