A Bigger beginning with Bananaboat!

[Dante311 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dante311]

Good looks and appreciate the support, Gator!

Tonight is a full session post-work out.. going to the gym soon

I will say my flaccid looks twice as big now.. especially after traction wrapping :P

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banana...You are doing great. You're gaining well and your routine is good. If you're not getting any negative reactions to your routine, then you are not doing too much. Some beginner's can get negative P.I.s with only doing 5 minutes of stretching and 5 minutes of jelqing. But some can stretch for an hour and then jelq for two hours. It's all about listening to your penis. And besides, it's my opinion (and to be taken with a grain of salt because I am NOT an expert) that you have to induce fatigue to gain - meaning, you almost have to overtrain slightly (or, at least, nudge the edge of overtraining) in order to gain. Stay the course, use the force.

Sometimes this is needed to break the plateu, your EQ will suck for a while but as long as you don't let it dip below an 8 you can build Eq back up again with a week or two of edging minus any PE.

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1/18/10

update

had a pretty good session tonight!

10 min hot wrap warmup
10 mins of stretching (holding the ventral aspect of the penis (under the base to prevent turkey neck) - U,D,L,R,O w/ 10 second heli's between each set... Out hold stretches held for 1 min each
~15 mins of wet jelqs @ EQ from 3-6 for 300
5 mins of stretches again (resistance stretches)
2 x 10 second uli's + stretch up, down, left right during uli
10 second stretch up, down, left, right
60 second out stretch
15 min hot shower warmdown

I feel good =)

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I got yo read that traction wrapping thread.

[Dante311 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dante311]

I got yo read that traction wrapping thread.

Which? I'm confuzzled :P

Confused.

lol

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Sometimes this is needed to break the plateu, your EQ will suck for a while but as long as you don't let it dip below an 8 you can build Eq back up again with a week or two of edging minus any PE.

I haven't read the whole thread so I'm not sure what split he is on, but a 5 on 2 day split works well for overtraining. The 5 days on are spent overtraining and then you get two full rest days to recover. From my (short) experience, this helps to maintain EQ - which may start to slip towards the end of 5 days of training.

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I'm confuzzled

I want you to use this word with one of your college professors

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1/19/10

update

took tonight off... did traction wrap all day.. ~ 10 hours... began running treadmill... runner's penis (when penis retracts)... sooooo uncomfortable

tonight... do some heli's, light stretches, heli's, light stretches, heli's, light edging... IN the shower. warmed up for 5 mins.. then warmed down for 5 mins

off night overall.

I'm still a beginner.. in my 3rd month... I'll till to 2 on 1 off for another few months

thanks tho guys... eventually i will do 5 on 2 off :P

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Continue to do what is working banana. And what you are doing is certainly working!

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holy crap.. I'm traction wrapping today and every time I sit down "it" tries to turtle... SO uncomfortable...

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Banana, I'm not sold on the following idea, but I thought I'd throw it out there for your consideration: At what point do we become counterproductive when trying to eliminate turtling? I'm becoming more and more convinced that turtling (not excessive, but basic turtling) could be a sign the penis is repairing, thus growing. Your thoughts?

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Banana, I'm not sold on the following idea, but I thought I'd throw it out there for your consideration: At what point do we become counterproductive when trying to eliminate turtling? I'm becoming more and more convinced that turtling (not excessive, but basic turtling) could be a sign the penis is repairing, thus growing. Your thoughts?

could be. would be good for me (and you if you're in the same boat)... I mean... upon tissue repair.. the body's physiology has a common response. splint the SOI w/ swelling, release macrophages and leukocytes... + thrombocytes to SOI... clear debris/microbial invaders... and begin repairing process...

I am under the understanding / impression that jelqing promotes the microscopic tearing of fibrous tendinous/ligemental tissues allowing for progressive repair that would and could take weeks at a time. Tendons and ligaments do not heal as quickly and efficiently as muscles do... especially with severe trauma... That's why it makes sense the growth of these tissues takes years... initial gains could be a result of external stimuli exciting the repair process that occurs physiologically... similar to adaptive muscular resistance training, but with repeated bouts the wear & tear eventually build up a pseudo immunity where you need to begin 'shocking' the system into growth...

..I know it doesn't work QUITE that way, but I'll spare you the science talk :P

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1/20/10

update

(SAME AS 1/17/10)

10 min hot wrap warmup
10 mins of stretching (holding the ventral aspect of the penis (under the base to prevent turkey neck) - U,D,L,R,O w/ 10 second heli's between each set... Out hold stretches held for 1 min each
~15 mins of wet jelqs @ EQ from 3-6 for 300
5 mins of stretches again (resistance stretches)
2 x 10 second uli's + stretch up, down, left right during uli
10 second stretch up, down, left, right
60 second out stretch
15 min hot shower warmdown

I feel good =)

I am actually amazed... I was able POST-PE to stretch my flaccid LONGER than my erect length.. I really hope that's a positive PI!

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I am actually amazed... I was able POST-PE to stretch my flaccid LONGER than my erect length.. I really hope that's a positive PI!

Our minds think alike. I just got done writing about BPFSL in my progress log

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Our minds think alike. I just got done writing about BPFSL in my progress log

You have 2 logs now, right? I'm so confuzzled... oh, and I said that word in front of my advisor... holy crap.. I looked like a fool =/

I can't believe I actually did it. LOL