"From PE to MMO"- Minuteman's Orgasmic log

[Hanma Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hanma]

Hey Minuteman, this may sound weird, but have you noticed that when you stroke different parts of the penis, each part relates to a different organ in the body?

Like I feel a tingling in a part of my penis about 2-4 cm down from the glans, at the same time when a spot near my prostate feels the same tingling sensation.

I have yet to focus deeply towards my own sensations, but this is one of the more noticeable ones.

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Or when I am breathing from my stomach deeply while rubbing a certain spot, I feel a fluttering sensation near my heart. And that is very uncommon as I cannot focus entirely.

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Bumping for interest!

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

Hey Minuteman, this may sound weird, but have you noticed that when you stroke different parts of the penis, each part relates to a different organ in the body?

Like I feel a tingling in a part of my penis about 2-4 cm down from the glans, at the same time when a spot near my prostate feels the same tingling sensation.

I have yet to focus deeply towards my own sensations, but this is one of the more noticeable ones.

It is the same as the theory that massaging your feet will have different effect on your internal organs.

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As for me, nothing is new, i really haven't got the time to do anything new or to explore new possibilities due to the fact that more often than not i really don't have the time to be with myself by myself.

However i am writing this post to (even though it is maybe pointless) bring attention to and excellent topic that although i note the same/similar points of view to some things, while i mostly focus on the 'journal' based learn-as-you-read journey, his topic is much more concise and recommended for those that just want the 'movelist', this is in no way a 'lookdown' to that topic, it is rather maybe a better, more practical way.

So while kegels and exercises may fix your physical part of the problem, more often than not the psychological is the one to blame, ByggD's topic works well in providing good steps in fixing the psychological and sensatory (to some point even habitual problems) of premature ejaculaton while the pshysical side is fixed mostly trough kegel routines but briging back balance to the pelvic floor, in my signature there is a master list of many variations of both kegels and reverse kegels, if you need to amp up your training regime that post might be a very good guide line.

So for all the people that find my topic to be to long, this topic (especially the first post):

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...-response.html

should be your guide. Later on if you want to read about a example of that routine (but not followed trough all points) and if you are interested in details about the feelings and insights then you should read this topic (the one I am posting right now).

I am writing this because i had some number of pm's and I noticed that i'm writing same recommendations all over again , that can all be viewed nicely in the mentioned topic above, of course some questions are specific and i help when I can, but please note that i am still a virgin and even if I have the insight in many things just because of how i view it all i still lack much of the experience, so it is better to ask the advice from those that actually had sex. Even though my recommendations do hit the spot, and are mostly correct you simply can't beat the insights of people that have more experience. I know that i maybe told this a number of times, but I did notice that people treat me like a sex guru and while i am honored, it simply isn't so.

I am not saying that people should stop sending me pm's just be aware that while maybe mastered it solo that isn't true for sex, also if you see that i'm not responding to the post or pm please note that even though i see it i sometimes don't have the time to really answer it and i don't like to give half-hearted answers.

Also please don't bump this topic for the sake of bumping (if you have something to ask that is another thing), since in the sticky topic made by Spunky the link is present.

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Lol.. calling me Spunky... are you flirting with me? hahaha

I didn't know that got a sticky! ooh

Good to hear from you MM - hope you're doing well!

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Lol.. calling me Spunky... are you flirting with me? hahaha

I didn't know that got a sticky! ooh

Good to hear from you MM - hope you're doing well!

Haha, sorry about that, darling

Well I really can't say it's bad i just don't have time for myself, and since i don't like doing things half way then I don't do them at all.

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Good to see you back. I was just tinking about you.

[hoochiNn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hoochiNn]

"with a straight back or with your lower back tucked in. If slightly hunched then I find my abs engaging."

Sorry, I'm spanish and I didn't understood that.
That means that a good position is to do it laying on bed with legs flexion? Like this: o_/\_,
I read some weeks ago some guy who said that laying on bed like that with the hands extended near your head (just straight up) will help to separate better Reverse Kegels from Abdominal work.

I just started to train RK some weeks ago, what you recommend me for start? Medium strenght and feel like I want to piss + I want to push out a fart?

Thanks!

[mvergasioin Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mvergasioin]

I myself had lots of trouble finding and feeling the kegels at first.

The best way was standing at the toilet to piss. Stop the urine with a regular kegel and then let it flow with a reverse kegel. Don't think about doing a kegel. Just stop and start pissing (or defecating or farting) and feel what is happening. Do a few stops and starts each time you piss and soon you'll know what they are and then be able to practice them outside the bathroom.

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Since Spring is slowly crawling up upon us I can feel my libido doing the same.

So since I was a little bit more active I decided to post some stuff that probably everybody knows but it do us all good to sometimes be reminded of those "little" things.


Most of the time premature ejaculation, for those who pay close attention to the process, is a somewhat gradual thing, in other words you start to feel that your pelvic floor muscles are getting more and more tense and that the sexual tension is growing, for the untrained this process is so fast and so unpredictable that more often than not it is not even noticed and they just end up with a lot of sperm and no sense of satisfaction or fulfilment. Now some call this sexual chi, but for the sake of demistifying I will just refer to that simply as tension, since it is a muscle tension combined with the more pleasurable nerve sensation.

Now the main reason for this happening is our inability to spread that tension and to even it out trough all our body or to somehow get rid of it. Now most people will amongst other things tell you to BREATHE and how important BREATHING is, but unfortunately (and that includes me) they don't say just how should one do that, and what exactly do people mean by breathing (since we all already breathe...), since to many it is somewhat logical, but since people tend to overlook breathing lets dissect it.

In this case, breathing means having a steady constant deep breaths and one of the things that will do is make you focus your mind and attention on the middle part of your body (close your eyes and breath deeply, you will notice that you are paying much attention to where and how the air flows even if you don't fully concentrate on that).

But that doesn't answer much of the question and how is that good for the premature ejaculation aside from teaching us how to focus of different sensations during sex. What many people this by breathing but somewhat fail to point out is that it helps in one other very important process and that is tension dispersion.

In order to understand tension dispersion try remembering that big SIGH after you let out your last breath and your breathing returns to normal and your body relaxes after running, or after lifting something heavy, or after finishing some exam, that sigh of relief, notice how it manages to relax your body and disperse all that tension. That is the breath most people are talking about when it comes to breathing during sex or masturbation, but in this case tension is here because of to much pleasure.

Some people (and that is mostly us the premature ejaculationists) don't know how to use that breath, so I will try to describe how I use it.

When you are near the PONR and as you feel the tension in your pelvic floor rising and your muscles starting to contract and being to sensitive close your eyes and try to focus your senses on that area. Now, as you BREATHE IN try to rise that tension to your shoulders, like a sweet chill, it helps if you tense your body and your shoulders and you will notice how whole of your body is feeling that sweet tension (as you practice it in the beginning you might not feel much but give it time), then LET OUT A BIG SIGH (trough your mouth) and let the air out while relaxing your body, with that air the tension will also disperse out of your body, just like it does when you stop running and all those above examples. It might not feel as much as first, but as you get in the rhythm you will feel its benefits, you don't need to moan just sigh (or moan if you find that effective).

For me the optimal way to use breathing is to INHALE when I thrust and to SIGH/EXHALE when I pull, but note that your optimal way might be to exhale withe you thrust so make sure you try both versions. That way you are using that tension that is formed when you thrust and by breathing in you are helping it spread/disperse trough all of your body and while you pull out you sigh/exhale and that causes your body to naturally relax. This is by far the best way I know of to enter the soft wave orgasms.

But then it happens that the damned thing just doesn't work, and there is a good reason to that for some people and the answer is HEAT. Most people in shover/bath when they masturbate will notice that the whole experience is better and that they last longer. The shower has a two effects one is that the drops (water) makes it easier to focus your attention to your whole body, the other is that the heat relaxes your muscles and makes the tension moving much more pronounced and easier. Some people by default have cold bodies even while they are masturbating or have sex, so either use some sort of cover or blanket over you to keep the heat or in sex make use of your partners body (by assuming sexual positions that place both partners in embrace).

Many of you have noticed that no matter how good you are at reverse kegeling even when you do a good revse kegel you still feel that your pelvic floor is tensed at some places, SIGH helps there since in activates a bunch of unconscious responses and some of those is pelvic floor relaxation, sometimes there is no way to gain access to a muscle other then some unconscious or indirect way (which is good, i don't want to master heart stopping), in a similar way that no matter how good you are in kegels you can't activate some muscles (or muscle parts, or in that way) that only activate during ejaculation.

Also, sometimes the BREATHING just won't work, it is just another tool in our arsenal, it is not a miracle cure. And don't force it some days we just don't feel in the mood to SIGH, but when it happens try your best to remember that feeling that you get when you draw in breath and make your whole body feel pleasure and when you release it with a sigh. It is very important to remember the feelings you have during good sessions and forget the bad/pissed of feelings during those sessions that are just bad.

Notice, one more thing. Coping with pleasure and sensations spreading them trough your body sometimes can't occur during some sort of mental blockade or a phyhological problem that you might not even know it exists or you just won't admit it exists. Just because you have a kegel hold that could bend iron, or have a control in breathing and muscles doesn't mean much if your mind is not in there, if there isn't a good mindset.

Also it is one thing to know how to do something and when to apply it. There is not one thing that will make you last longer but multitude of things that combined and used at the right time. And never forget the that psychological effects differ (somebody will find that certain stuff arouses him more then other people, same thing go for using methods to control PE).

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Welcome back ,good post .

[b33mp3 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close b33mp3]

Hey Minuteman, thank you so much for your great advice!!

Was just wondering, when you are receiving a blowjob, how would you go about controlling your orgasms? I mean, in a blowjob, the lady would be in control seems to make it so much harder

during actual intercourse i last.. a little bit.. longer because i can control it, but thats sadly not saying much

[mvergasioin Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mvergasioin]

MM: I really appreciate your welcome perspective. This stuff is magic but must be learned and experimented with and mastered. One must be ready for the unknown but also apply what you have trained yourself to do. Imagination and confidence are critical as is the ability to screw up, get it up and try it again.

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Added this paragraph to my previous post

For me the optimal way to use breathing is to INHALE when I thrust and to SIGH/EXHALE when I pull. That way you are using that tension that is formed when you thrust and by breathing in you are helping it spread/disperse trough all of your body and while you pull out you sigh/exhale and that causes your body to naturally relax. This is by far the best way I know of to enter the soft wave orgasms.

Most people will actually notice that they do that, and for those who don't know now you know how.

Hey Minuteman, thank you so much for your great advice!!

Was just wondering, when you are receiving a blowjob, how would you go about controlling your orgasms? I mean, in a blowjob, the lady would be in control seems to make it so much harder

during actual intercourse i last.. a little bit.. longer because i can control it, but thats sadly not saying much

Answering questions like this is a little bit hard for me since I have no experience when it comes to blowjobs and sex (i.e. virgin) but I will give it a shot. Try telling her to slow down (tell her you like it more sensual), also experiment with her, tell her to switch between masturbation and blowjob, or licking, be honest with her and tell her that she is making you finish too fast (you can add on the account of how hot she is), also try to find a position that makes you most comfortable.

Also try to relax and enjoy it rather than trying to fight it, it only makes you finish faster. And simply see how she guides you when you are licking her. Hope that helps.

MM: I really appreciate your welcome perspective. This stuff is magic but must be learned and experimented with and mastered. One must be ready for the unknown but also apply what you have trained yourself to do. Imagination and confidence are critical as is the ability to screw up, get it up and try it again.

You are welcome.

[mvergasioin Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mvergasioin]

tried to remember the inhale exhale in the moment this morning, and I think I was doing it as you suggested....I used my kegels and breath more effectively this time around, so I think I will eventually grow into MMO with a partner.

good to have you periodically checking in