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I only do SD now. Still zero lig fatigue, and zero BPFSL improvement.
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Do you mean to say stretching down would help you gain bpfsl rather than so or any other angle?
Have you taken a serious decon break all this time? I am asking because it could have something to do with the lig before tunica gain theory.Comment
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Guys dont get hope from manuel stretching, Stan is exception
imagine I have had hanging 14 lbs since a year just got 1 cm, maybe hanging session short doing a hour a day..
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No, but it looks like it's the only angle that doesn't interfere with EQ recovery, probably because it puts no stress on the BC muscle.Originally posted by tspot180 View Post
Yes I did take a long break. At this point I have no idea whether the lig or tunica is the limit.Have you taken a serious decon break all this time? I am asking because it could have something to do with the lig before tunica gain theory.Last edited by Stan; 05-21-2019, 09:19 AM.Comment
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I would say we should put faith in manual stuff, I also hang and prefer long low weight sets after long hard manuals stretches, that's what keeps me gaining now, both tunica and ligs get worked great.
Hey Stan, why don't you try jelqing/pumping and supplements for EQ, from what I understand you are almost 40, right? My guess is it would do you great and save you time with gaining.Comment
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My EQ is good, it's just that I can't get to 100% because my CS doesn't fill up as much as it used to. For me jelqing helps somewhat with the CC but not the CS, and the CC isn't an issue right now. Also jelqing makes me numb which is counter-productive when looking to achieve a 100% erection. Loss of sensitivity was the main reason I had EQ troubles in the first place, and now that I've stopped all bundles and jelqing, the sensitivity is almost fully back.Originally posted by tspot180 View Post
I've found that keeping a constant very light RK under stimulation helps with the CS. I never used to do that because it messed with my control but it doesn't anymore. Clearly the issue is with the BC, so I finally decided to leave it alone and let it heal by only stretching SD for a while.
I'm 42 nowFrom what I understand you are almost 40, right?
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I've finally gained 1/32" of BPFSL, with all the fatigue in the tunica and none in the lig.
EQ is better, I can get very hard but it still doesn't feel like 100%, the underside stays flat especially in the last few inches and the head doesn't expand much. At higher levels the BC always feels tight even though I keep it relaxed (no IKs), like it should "open up" and let the CS fill up but it doesn't. The angle is still very high, which I believe is consistent with a shorter CC/tunica and a stretched out BC/CS.
It might be a coincidence but the improved EQ and stretchability both happened after I started doing vertical power shakes again.Comment
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How would you describe the tunica fatigue feeling? I feel it best when semi erect for instance, especially when doing a light stretch in a semi erec. state.
I also get the best EQ results from power shakes, I always do them after my manual stretches/hanging sets actually, it definately feels the best way to end a set, both for circulation on the spot for further hanging/stretching with no discomfort and for better overall EQ after the session is over. Thanks for that, wouldn't have done them if it weren't for you to describe them.Comment
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For me it's just a numb stretching feeling vs. no feeling at all. These days it takes an awful lot of force to get there. Luckily I found a way to significantly improve my grip, or I definitely wouldn't be able to pull hard enough without resorting to bundled stretches.Originally posted by tspot180 View Post
Exactly! I don't even remember why I stopped doing them.I also get the best EQ results from power shakes, I always do them after my manual stretches/hanging sets actually, it definately feels the best way to end a set, both for circulation on the spot for further hanging/stretching with no discomfort and for better overall EQ after the session is over.Comment
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I've gained another 1/32" of BPFSL. Still no lig fatigue, and no change in EQ or visible EL, but my unit is really starting to feel like itself again. Sensitivity behind the head is almost fully back, and I get IKs from the BC again instead of just the IC, that help pump up the erection level but also make control more difficult. That's a good thing because it lets me use very light stimulation again, fighting off BC IKs, which is the only way I used to be able to get to 100%. I'm realizing the sensitivity loss had made me enter a vicious cycle of death grip/over-stimulation that puffed up the foreskin and further lowered sensitivity...Last edited by Stan; 06-07-2019, 03:45 AM.Comment
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From a lil research and personal experience, CS not filling up usually comes from a tight PF (pelvic floor). And a tight pelvic floor rarely just happens, it's usually a result of poor posture in some sense, most often anterior pelvic tilt, which can have a bunch of causes from leg length discrepancy to weak muscle groups (core, glutes, and/or hamstrings), to tight muscles (hip flexors, lower back). Doing some targeted working out and stretches will likely help your CS inflation improve, through the improved posture allowing for a more balanced pelvic floor, and hence more blood flow. I used to have the same thing, and it now basically doesn't exist any more, my CS always fills up, with some exceptions here and there.Originally posted by Stan View PostComment
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I also think posture plays a big part in eq and also, my guess only though I'll have to google this, erection angle?
Anyway, I totally agree with working out along with doing PE, keeping a good posture at least most of the time and some stretching/light exercises along does a world of good to me, but I workout hard nowadays with calisthenics and I feel it helps a lot with eq.
Hey Stan, what do you think of stretching upwards or maybe even v stretching upwards like in your older picture with that "can" thing ? Don't you get anymore bpfsl increases from that?
I am asking this because it feels like the most productive angle for me right now after roughly 1 year of sd and so, also seems to give me even better eq if not overdone.Comment
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Hi Stan, so have you tried to stretch under constant heat before? Came across someone telling me a couple months ago that he gained nothing and then he added constant heat and he was able to gain. What reminded me of it was that I saw a post just today by someone who said he had gained over an inch in length and wasn't able to gain anymore, then I saw one of the comments telling him to introdue constant heat to see if that works. So I thought I'd just post it here. Either you have or haven't tried it, and I'm interested to hear your take either way. Also, I'm not sure how they add the constant heat, I'm assuming some sort of heating lamp?Comment
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Hey Stan, any more gains?
Is the CS back in shape?Comment
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Stan, this is all very inspiring. Congrats again on the gains.
One question - given that your routine is/was unique in PE circles, do you now of anyone else who has followed the same routine and had success? I saw there was one commenter in your thread who said he gained 2" with your routine but he only made two posts so couldn't follow up with him. The obvious beauty of this routine is the time efficiency, location independence (you could do it in work on the toilet!) and zero requirement for equipment.
Given that Stan has been away from the thread for a while, perhaps someone else could chime in on this if they had info? Cheers.Last edited by Narco11; 12-31-2019, 01:29 AM.Comment
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