THE Solution to Premature Ejaculation!

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

If you are trying dry orgasm Hanma this is a different method read the first few posts again.

[Giorgos Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Giorgos]

It just occurred to me!! How to re-train the Kegel reflex which results in premature ejaculation!

It is so simple, so utterly simple and perfect (see Occam's Razor). A mix of Pavlovian reflex training - with THE SECRET INGREDIENT!!!!! What is the secret ingredient??? ready???

The Reverse Kegel

-=-How to apply it to control arousal-=-

1) learn how to Reverse Kegel see: https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...aving-sex.html (feels like pushing out a fart)

2) Learn your PONR, being aware of the point exactly when your kegel flexes prior to ejaculation (see https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theo...ing-101-a.html)

3) At the exact moment before you know your kegel will flex: REVERSE KEGEL! PUSH OUT! This is a COMPETING RESPONSE!


-=-Why this will work: You are re-training your Reflexive conditioning, from being one where (1) your kegel flexes at the first sign of pleasure to (2) now your kegel muscles are trained to stay relaxed via the reverse kegel, offsetting ejaculation. BRILLIANT! (this must be repeated many times to effectively re-condition your nervous system)

I'm 100% positive that this will work, (With practice) and I am implimenting it with success in my own PE efforts. The COMPETING RESPONSE mechanism is very common in training new behaviors and association with new stimuli to replace old ones. It is a widely used tactic in my field (psychology).

Everybody out there! How exciting to actually have Hope of a REAL CURE!

Hello guys.
I've been reading the forum for a wile now as i'm suffering from PE for my hole life.
I'll tell about my daily routine and the progress i have made so far using kegels and reverse kegels only !
I practice kegels during my way to work and on the afternoon during my way back from work i practice reverse kegels.
before i learn about reverse kegels i used to practice kegels only and i noticed that i reached PORN even faster than before.
Then i started doing a combination of both kegels and reverse.
i also noticed that if i kegel tight when reaching PORN it dosent help me at all. on the contrary some times i lose my erection. and even i if dont
as soon as i penetrate again i reach PORN within seconds.
What works for me is to reverse kegel as soon as reach PORN for 5 or ten seconds.
I only kegel tight when I'm ready to cum in order to shoot further
i've been following this routine for a couple of moths now and saw some good results.i went from 1 minute or less to 6-7 minutes.Of course during this 6-7 minutes i stop when i reach PORN and reverse kegel while trying to change position. I'm still having some accidents from time to time as i still can't recognise PORN on time.

There is something though that i noticed during this time. when i reverse kegel my cum just flows out and does not explode. Does anybody have an oppinion an this ?

[naturesucks Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close naturesucks]

It just occurred to me!! How to re-train the Kegel reflex which results in premature ejaculation!

It is so simple, so utterly simple and perfect (see Occam's Razor). A mix of Pavlovian reflex training - with THE SECRET INGREDIENT!!!!! What is the secret ingredient??? ready???

The Reverse Kegel

-=-How to apply it to control arousal-=-

1) learn how to Reverse Kegel see: https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...aving-sex.html (feels like pushing out a fart)

2) Learn your PONR, being aware of the point exactly when your kegel flexes prior to ejaculation (see https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theo...ing-101-a.html)

3) At the exact moment before you know your kegel will flex: REVERSE KEGEL! PUSH OUT! This is a COMPETING RESPONSE!


-=-Why this will work: You are re-training your Reflexive conditioning, from being one where (1) your kegel flexes at the first sign of pleasure to (2) now your kegel muscles are trained to stay relaxed via the reverse kegel, offsetting ejaculation. BRILLIANT! (this must be repeated many times to effectively re-condition your nervous system)

I'm 100% positive that this will work, (With practice) and I am implimenting it with success in my own PE efforts. The COMPETING RESPONSE mechanism is very common in training new behaviors and association with new stimuli to replace old ones. It is a widely used tactic in my field (psychology).

Everybody out there! How exciting to actually have Hope of a REAL CURE!

I've tried this countless times. Sometimes pressed so hard that I almost took a shit, to no avail. Ejaculation occurs regardless what I do with my PC muscle. I make sure I wasn't pushing too early-toolate when feeling the PONR. Didn't work eitherway.

[jimmy05 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jimmy05]

I've tried this countless times. Sometimes pressed so hard that I almost took a shit, to no avail. Ejaculation occurs regardless what I do with my PC muscle. I make sure I wasn't pushing too early-toolate when feeling the PONR. Didn't work eitherway.

The idea, well what spanky has told me and it's been working for me, is to RK before you're reaching your PONR. Knowing your EQ helps with this.. i like to keep myself around 50% and if you feel your arousal beginning to increase you RK until it goes back down.
I'm copying what Spanky has said to me but it's easier to go down from 60% to 50% than from 90% to 80%.
Only when i reach PONR is when i'll stop all stimulation and RK for about 15 seconds. and then my arousal level drops a lot and i'm ready to go again.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

I've tried this countless times. Sometimes pressed so hard that I almost took a shit, to no avail. Ejaculation occurs regardless what I do with my PC muscle. I make sure I wasn't pushing too early-toolate when feeling the PONR. Didn't work eitherway.

Yes what jimmy said ,it may also help to read the first few posts of this thread.
Also many guys hear about DO one day, attempt it the next with no training and wonder why it does not work. If you are attempting DO you have to train for it.

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

Glad to have helped you out jimmy. I can't DO by the way, I think that's a different task much closer to PONR. I'm just working on stamina for now.

[NakedMan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NakedMan]

I noticed that I can really relax my pelvic floor only in 1 position (lying flat down),

I tried to RK at my PONR yesterday and I ejaculated really hard.
What am I missing? Is the RK supposed to stop the orgasm?
Also I can't get my arousal down once I am close to the PONR. Are my RK maybe just too weak ?

[jimmy05 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jimmy05]

I noticed that I can really relax my pelvic floor only in 1 position (lying flat down),

I tried to RK at my PONR yesterday and I ejaculated really hard.
What am I missing? Is the RK supposed to stop the orgasm?
Also I can't get my arousal down once I am close to the PONR. Are my RK maybe just too weak ?

The idea, well what spanky has told me and it's been working for me, is to RK before you're reaching your PONR. Knowing your EQ helps with this.. i like to keep myself around 50% and if you feel your arousal beginning to increase you RK until it goes back down.
I'm copying what Spanky has said to me but it's easier to go down from 60% to 50% than from 90% to 80%.
Only when i reach PONR is when i'll stop all stimulation and RK for about 15 seconds. and then my arousal level drops a lot and i'm ready to go again.

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[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

To reverse kegel a DO requires more technique than to standard kegel one. it has advantages for some types of mmo though.

[naturesucks Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close naturesucks]

Yes what jimmy said ,it may also help to read the first few posts of this thread.
Also many guys hear about DO one day, attempt it the next with no training and wonder why it does not work. If you are attempting DO you have to train for it.

Whats DO?

And whats a good RK routine

[NakedMan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NakedMan]

To reverse kegel a DO requires more technique than to standard kegel one. it has advantages for some types of mmo though.

What do you mean with different types of MMO ?

[No Hands Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close No Hands]

DO = dry orgasm, which is an orgasm without ejaculation, which means no cum shooting out.

MMO = male multiple orgasm... meaning you can orgasm more than once during a sex session... meaning you can orgasm multiple times before ejaculation.

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

@NM I'm aware of two types of MMO, soft wave, which is without the ejaculation sensation and Minuteman has suggested is more like a girl's orgasm with waves of pleasure rolling constantly over you, and hard wave which is DO after DO, with all the physical contractions and pumping you'd associate with a traditional male orgasm. If there are more (as it sounds) unless we're differentiating between repeated orgasm and escalating/plateau I'm not aware of them.

I have to be brutally frank and say the idea of having an orgasm the same as a woman's is phenomenally sexy to me.

[Hanma Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hanma]

Could somebody point out the post(s) where it mentions how to achieve a DO by RK?

Tried the first post, it doesn't work.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

I suggest you become very good at standard kegel DO first.