Minuteman's Dry Orgasm Guide

[Hogama Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hogama]

the pain wasn't actually caused by trying to DO but it was rather caused by the holds I did with the pelvic floor muscles. in other words you know when you work out untill you feel your muscles being strained? that's the feeling right there. anyhow given my situation you reckon it's better to concentrate on reverse kegels and balance my pelvic area or to keep just working out alterning both reverse and normal exercises as with time balance will build up normally?

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

the pain wasn't actually caused by trying to DO but it was rather caused by the holds I did with the pelvic floor muscles. in other words you know when you work out untill you feel your muscles being strained? that's the feeling right there. anyhow given my situation you reckon it's better to concentrate on reverse kegels and balance my pelvic area or to keep just working out alterning both reverse and normal exercises as with time balance will build up normally?

Depends of what your goal is. If you want to perform DOs follow the pelvic floor routine outlined in this guide. If you just want balanced pelvic floor do only level 0 of the pelvic floor routine, and after finishing it observe if you have made some progress.

[Vociferous Member Find all posts View Profile Close Vociferous]

To Minuteman,

Could you please take a look again at my maintenance routine. I am doing it everyday, but it is starting to become a chore. I don't mind doing it in the morning, but doing it twice a day is sometimes hard. After all the minute kegals for three types takes around 30 minutes. At the moment I am not even having sex, so I am not sure why I am doing these anymore. lol. Thanks for all your help. Having DOs is amazing, but the maintenance is killing me.

FLACCID
lv0.2
50-100 kegals ALL
15 x 5 sec tri step Kegal & root lock only (increases in intensity)
10x30 sec Kegal holds ALL (give up once 1 min holds are easier)
10x 1 mins Kegal holds ALL
10x5 sec bunker, flush, sine front, reverse front


ERECT
10x30 sec holds Kegal /root lock only
20x10sec towel raises
20xtri point 5 sec holds ALL
10x5 secs bunker, flush, and reverse sine front.

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

To Minuteman,

Could you please take a look again at my maintenance routine. I am doing it everyday, but it is starting to become a chore. I don't mind doing it in the morning, but doing it twice a day is sometimes hard. After all the minute kegals for three types takes around 30 minutes. At the moment I am not even having sex, so I am not sure why I am doing these anymore. lol. Thanks for all your help. Having DOs is amazing, but the maintenance is killing me.

FLACCID
lv0.2
50-100 kegals ALL
15 x 5 sec tri step Kegal & root lock only (increases in intensity)
10x30 sec Kegal holds ALL (give up once 1 min holds are easier)
10x 1 mins Kegal holds ALL
10x5 sec bunker, flush, sine front, reverse front


ERECT
10x30 sec holds Kegal /root lock only
20x10sec towel raises
20xtri point 5 sec holds ALL
10x5 secs bunker, flush, and reverse sine front.

There is no need for kegel clenches as long as yo do the holds and you feel that those holds are sufficient in strength and especially if you don't notice any drop in your DOs.

Instead of doing 10 of 30 sec and 10 of minute holds, start with minute holds and finish whatever you have left with 30 sec holds in time the latter part will be less.

As for the other I think in time you will notice the ones that you find pointless so you should go with your instinct.

Also start doing them every second day. and later on do them only 3 times a week, then one time a week and keep at it until you notice a performance drop.

Since I haven't been much diligent in my maintenance routine either (since later on I got more interested in other techniques, had no partner etc.) so it is up t you to see how long you will keep at it. The best solution would be to find a partner (if you don't already have one) and start having DOs while having sex. This should both motivate you and enable to learn more about DO and in time you will end up just doing towel raises and reverse kegels for relaxing. This will especially be true once you have the technique and precision (timing) down so that you can rely on those aspects more.

[Vociferous Member Find all posts View Profile Close Vociferous]

There is no need for kegel clenches as long as yo do the holds and you feel that those holds are sufficient in strength and especially if you don't notice any drop in your DOs.

Instead of doing 10 of 30 sec and 10 of minute holds, start with minute holds and finish whatever you have left with 30 sec holds in time the latter part will be less.

As for the other I think in time you will notice the ones that you find pointless so you should go with your instinct.

Also start doing them every second day. and later on do them only 3 times a week, then one time a week and keep at it until you notice a performance drop.

Since I haven't been much diligent in my maintenance routine either (since later on I got more interested in other techniques, had no partner etc.) so it is up t you to see how long you will keep at it. The best solution would be to find a partner (if you don't already have one) and start having DOs while having sex. This should both motivate you and enable to learn more about DO and in time you will end up just doing towel raises and reverse kegels for relaxing. This will especially be true once you have the technique and precision (timing) down so that you can rely on those aspects more.

By 'Kegal clenches' do you mean/include: Tri-step, bunker/flush/sine? Minute holds negates all of them?

In other words, minute kegal holds and towel raises? Eventually do that three times a week until I see a drop?
Sorry for the confusion!

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

By 'Kegal clenches' do you mean/include: Tri-step, bunker/flush/sine? Minute holds negates all of them?

In other words, minute kegal holds and towel raises? Eventually do that three times a week until I see a drop?
Sorry for the confusion!

By clenches I mean flexes and any sort of very short movements that are not complex. So in other words kegels, reverse kegels, root locks and reverse root locks, since you are using the extended version of those (the holds). Or at least decrease the reps to 50 or even less and use them just as isolation exercises.

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So something like this (more refined):

10x 1 mins Kegal holds ALL
10x5 sec bunker, flush, sine front, reverse front

ERECT
10x30 sec holds Kegal /root lock only
20x10sec towel raises

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

So something like this (more refined):

10x 1 mins Kegal holds ALL
10x5 sec bunker, flush, sine front, reverse front

ERECT
10x30 sec holds Kegal /root lock only
20x10sec towel raises

Something like that will do. You can also sort of add the tri-point effect part by making your 1 minute kegel holds while flaccid vary in strength. For example:

1 minute hold should be of little intensity
2,3,4 should be each be a little stronger
5, 6 should be the strongest
7,8,9 should be each be a little less strong
10 minute hold should be of little intensity

The only thing that you should make sure of it that you hold is constant, in other words it doesn't waver in intensity while you are holding it.

This is of course only if you want to further refine it, just 10 minute holds are totally fine. View this just as an idea.

Also when doing erect holds make sure they are not to strong so that you don't fatigue yourself for the towel raises (which in some way are more important). Perhaps even long term you should drop the erect holds as well, but that is up to you to test and see if you are able to maintain without the erect holds.

[eworthi Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close eworthi]

I'm working toward DO and MMO because I have not found a direct corelation between edging and increased time during sex. So I figure that if I can achieve MMO then I'll last longer during that way. I am physically capable of lasting over 16 minutes in a fleshlight in the missionary position for 5 days in a row, but it is not translating to sex. If I work towards and achieve MMO won't I last as long as she needs? That's my real goal, to last as long as she wants.
Does that make sense? Will MMO give me control of how long I last?

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

I'm working toward DO and MMO because I have not found a direct corelation between edging and increased time during sex. So I figure that if I can achieve MMO then I'll last longer during that way. I am physically capable of lasting over 16 minutes in a fleshlight in the missionary position for 5 days in a row, but it is not translating to sex. If I work towards and achieve MMO won't I last as long as she needs? That's my real goal, to last as long as she wants.
Does that make sense? Will MMO give me control of how long I last?

it will better your mindset at the least, and trough more pleasure it will open up for more experience. From the purely practical standpoint having dry orgasms will allow you to last longer, however to fully utilize this you will have to spend a good amount of time on it. Eventually you will desire not to use DO as a clutch but rather last long without it and use it as a tool for pleasure etc, so you will eventually return to traditional methods. At least that is what happened to me, so cases may differ.

Another point is that when training for DO in the way described in this guide you will have a consequence of having a strong and balanced pelvic floor, more stamina, stronger erections so it will passively help you to overcome premature ejaculation. But premature ejaculation itself also depends on other factors so to say that it will make you be able to control how long you can last would be giving you false information since it depends on person.

Also i would not recommend that mindset of "lasting as long as she wants" I would you rather have it as "lasting as long as I want". This might be a little thing but you should be doing this for yourself and not for others since others come and go and you stay, also this allows you to use other as a excuse. While I might be reading to much into this I still think 'lasting as long as I want' is a better mindset to have.

I also urge you to explore your problem with your partner as much as you can since that is simply the fastest way in your situation.

The things you should also do is carefully observe the things that your edging session and sex session have in common, try and find something that is similar in them and make that your base of progress. Similarly try and see what is different for you between sex and edging try and see what is really the thing that drives you over the edge with her.

Lastly spend time with her in a same way you should spend time getting to know your own body. Learn to relax when she is near you and naked etc. That doesn't mean that you should take her for granted in the negative way but in some way you should see her as you see your own naked body. Try to understand yourself better trough her.

[Dr.PE Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dr.PE]

Wow... this is amazing. I'm new here and I have finally decided to end this problem once and for all. I will following this guide to the T and and very hopefully this will my issue. Thanks so much Minuteman!

[alwayslearning Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close alwayslearning]

When doing sublevel 0.5 do you do all the sub routines at their final amount or beginning amount. For example when doing 0.1 within 0.5 do you do 10 kegel flexes or 20?

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When doing sublevel 0.5 do you do all the sub routines at their final amount or beginning amount. For example when doing 0.1 within 0.5 do you do 10 kegel flexes or 20?

As you want. But you can for example start and the beginning amount and then progress to the final amount.

Also

END OF LEVEL 0:

At this point your flexibility and endurance are much higher, and your control is more defined when it considers the four types. If you find that 0.5 is too much reduce the number of reps, but even if you do 10 of each you should go trough all of them. But you will notice that this isn't that hard, when you reach this.

[tjik Member Find all posts View Profile Close tjik]

I was wondering the above as well because it seems to take a long time for me to run through all of the routines?

Is it normal to take like 10-30 minutes to go through 0.1-0.4 when doing 0.5?

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

I was wondering the above as well because it seems to take a long time for me to run through all of the routines?

Is it normal to take like 10-30 minutes to go through 0.1-0.4 when doing 0.5?

Yes 0.5 and any .5 can take a while so it is up to you to update and adapt the routine to your own time and needs since (as I have written it several times in this topic) this routine is yet to be optimized mostly because I lack both the time and the experience (in general exercising/bodybuilding sense I am slowly getting the feeling as to how much reps an exercise should take, and how long should the rest periods be etc) needed to optimize it. While all other sublevels bar .5s seem to be reasonable all that is left is to find a sort of a representative and the most useful of exercises of the level and do only them. Read trough the topic for an discussion on this with other members and try to follow their ideas and suggestions.