Minuteman's Dry Orgasm Guide

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How are root lock and reverse root lock flexes performed? I seem to be missing the description on these.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ster-list.html should answer your questions, also always check the https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...preme-faq.html to see if the question you ask about general stuff has been answered.

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Does the help with PE?

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

Does the help with PE?

I am not sure what the question was but if it was does the pelvic floor routine help with premature ejaculation problems, then the answer is: yes the first 3 levels of the premature ejaculation routine can be used for fixing the in-balanced pelvic floor, for some it might outright heal the premature ejaculation problems depending on the core of the problem and other factors.

[drich24 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close drich24]

hi i'm just newly registered here in PEgym, but i was a guest since last year. I really appreciate your thread here Minuteman. I was so confused on this kegel,DO,MMO,etc etc thing. Now there's a really wide field of information about it. About the risk though, as I was trying this couple of weeks ago, i read from other sites that retrograde ejaculation cause infertility. So I was hysterically make a research if what exactly that means(but can't find). Does it mean that if i fail (which I am) on couple of tries on DO and resulted on retrograde ejaculation, is that a big risk on being infertile?
God knows I don't wanna have that problem.

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hi i'm just newly registered here in PEgym, but i was a guest since last year. I really appreciate your thread here Minuteman. I was so confused on this kegel,DO,MMO,etc etc thing. Now there's a really wide field of information about it. About the risk though, as I was trying this couple of weeks ago, i read from other sites that retrograde ejaculation cause infertility. So I was hysterically make a research if what exactly that means(but can't find). Does it mean that if i fail (which I am) on couple of tries on DO and resulted on retrograde ejaculation, is that a big risk on being infertile?
God knows I don't wanna have that problem.

Retrograde results in infertility because of the simple fact that the sperm never goes out when it is supposed to come out. No sperm, no fertility. The retrograde ejaculation that might happen as a result of a bad DO attempt is a forced retrograde ejaculation because you are blocking the sperm flow causing it to go to the bladder, in retrograde ejaculation (as a medical chronic condition) something (be it a weaken muscle or some physical blockage) stops the flow and it is out of your control.

The reason I warn continuously about proper preparation when attempting DO is that repeated retrograde ejaculation that you achieve as a bad DO can lead to damaging or weakening the internal structure needed for the proper ejaculation process, if it occurs from time to time it is not such problem, but if it occurs frequently it will turn into a bigger problem (in other words if you attempt DO everyday and everytime you get chronic retro ejaculation and you will have problems).

In other words if you properly prepare for a DO attempt following the guide and the warnings you should not have retrograde ejaculation (in other words a bad DO ) in the first place. If however retrograde ejaculation does occur (it happens to all, be it lack of practice, preparation or simply an error) just try not to have another DO attempt for at least a week or better two.

Attempting a DO when you are not properly prepared (you are on level 0 of the routine, your timing is not good, your technique is weak etc) is a sort of a benchmark that you should do from time to time. Most of the time you are not be able to achieve a clean or perfect DO with out training but sometimes if you get it right it will speed up your advancement. If you fail however you will be able to see/sense when you have gone wrong and so on. Doing this from the time to time (every two weeks or so) will not cause lasting problems as long as I know (however I can't guarantee that, the best way is not having any retro ejaculation occurrences at all).

I hope that clarified the details about retrograde ejaculation as an bad DO attempt (repeated use and abuse will cause it to become chronic), and retrograde ejaculation as chronic medical/health problem.

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Retrograde results in infertility because of the simple fact that the sperm never goes out when it is supposed to come out. No sperm, no fertility. The retrograde ejaculation that might happen as a result of a bad DO attempt is a forced retrograde ejaculation because you are blocking the sperm flow causing it to go to the bladder, in retrograde ejaculation (as a medical chronic condition) something (be it a weaken muscle or some physical blockage) stops the flow and it is out of your control.

The reason I warn continuously about proper preparation when attempting DO is that repeated retrograde ejaculation that you achieve as a bad DO can lead to damaging or weakening the internal structure needed for the proper ejaculation process, if it occurs from time to time it is not such problem, but if it occurs frequently it will turn into a bigger problem (in other words if you attempt DO everyday and everytime you get chronic retro ejaculation and you will have problems).

In other words if you properly prepare for a DO attempt following the guide and the warnings you should not have retrograde ejaculation (in other words a bad DO ) in the first place. If however retrograde ejaculation does occur (it happens to all, be it lack of practice, preparation or simply an error) just try not to have another DO attempt for at least a week or better two.

Attempting a DO when you are not properly prepared (you are on level 0 of the routine, your timing is not good, your technique is weak etc) is a sort of a benchmark that you should do from time to time. Most of the time you are not be able to achieve a clean or perfect DO with out training but sometimes if you get it right it will speed up your advancement. If you fail however you will be able to see/sense when you have gone wrong and so on. Doing this from the time to time (every two weeks or so) will not cause lasting problems as long as I know (however I can't guarantee that, the best way is not having any retro ejaculation occurrences at all).

I hope that clarified the details about retrograde ejaculation as an bad DO attempt (repeated use and abuse will cause it to become chronic), and retrograde ejaculation as chronic medical/health problem.

oh so short term and long term. Ok got it! I'll do my best to not go over it again. Thanks Minuteman!

[Insomnia Member Find all posts View Profile Close Insomnia]

Hi! I'm starting the third week of this programme tomorrow. But I do have a couple of questions:
Are there supposed to be any rest days? Or are they just not necessary?
Is it okay to edge/masturbate during the weeks of this programme? And if so, should I ejaculate or try to DO already at week three?

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Hi! I'm starting the third week of this programme tomorrow. But I do have a couple of questions:
Are there supposed to be any rest days? Or are they just not necessary?
Is it okay to edge/masturbate during the weeks of this programme? And if so, should I ejaculate or try to DO already at week three?

Rest days are for you to figure out depending on the feedback from the body, with the routine of this scope it is kinda hard to find just the right ratio of rest days and such. While this routine is good it still needs optimizing concerning the amount of work and rest days so it is a work in progress.

Also the "week three" is not the navigation you should use concerning DO attempts, since the flowchart shows the optimized "ideal" workout routine. Instead you should use levels as navigation. So on level 0 you should not attempt DOs. At level 1 you can but not frequently (for example every week or other week), at level 2 you can attempt it more frequently but only if your retrograde ejaculation does not occur, if it occurs then you should stop DO attempts for around 2 weeks.

[EraStyle Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close EraStyle]

I have not finished reading this thread as it is a long one, but I will.

I have a question though,

Would you recommend the k, rk, rl, rrk routine to someone who does not have PreE? Edit: And for someone who is already doing PE (stretching & heavy girth work)

I don't have PreE problems, but I still wish for better control of the pelvic floor, anything that can help me strengthen and balance it as well as ensure longer and better erections.

I have never had a kegel routine, I have just done kegels, rks while doing girth work after length.

[Slowly Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Slowly]

Hello. I have another question. I read kegeling while intercourse is like a brake and your arousal lvl should drop, but with me it works the reverse way, I actually get closer to the ponr. Is that normal? Are my kegels too weak?
By the way, reverse kegeling is not really working neither as a brake. Need more practice maybe?

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

Hello. I have another question. I read kegeling while intercourse is like a brake and your arousal lvl should drop, but with me it works the reverse way, I actually get closer to the ponr. Is that normal? Are my kegels too weak?
By the way, reverse kegeling is not really working neither as a brake. Need more practice maybe?

While good as a quick solution I don't recommend doing kegels or reverse kegels during sex or edging if it is not a part of the pelvic floor routine because it develops bad habits in the long run. You should aim to have no pelvic floor movements (kegels, reverse kegels, involuntary kegels etc) during edging and sex. Also kegels and reverse kegels simply affect people diferently so it might not help all in the same way when used as a brake for example.

Instead you should really on breathing as one way of regulating arousal you can read more about one of the techniques in this post.

I have not finished reading this thread as it is a long one, but I will.

I have a question though,

Would you recommend the k, rk, rl, rrk routine to someone who does not have PreE? Edit: And for someone who is already doing PE (stretching & heavy girth work)

I don't have PreE problems, but I still wish for better control of the pelvic floor, anything that can help me strengthen and balance it as well as ensure longer and better erections.

I have never had a kegel routine, I have just done kegels, rks while doing girth work after length.

If you are not having PremE and also are not aiming to have dry orgasms then I would rather recommend longer edging sessions ( 20 minutes or more and of course more sex) rather than doing this routine.

[EraStyle Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close EraStyle]

While good as a quick solution I don't recommend doing kegels or reverse kegels during sex or edging if it is not a part of the pelvic floor routine because it develops bad habits in the long run. You should aim to have no pelvic floor movements (kegels, reverse kegels, involuntary kegels etc) during edging and sex. Also kegels and reverse kegels simply affect people diferently so it might not help all in the same way when used as a brake for example.

Instead you should really on breathing as one way of regulating arousal you can read more about one of the techniques in this post.





If you are not having PremE and also are not aiming to have dry orgasms then I would rather recommend longer edging sessions ( 20 minutes or more and of course more sex) rather than doing this routine.

I have always been edging from 10-30 minutes almost after every PE workout.

I did stop that after I started clamping some weeks back.

I see. I just thought maybe if I had an actual routine instead of doing kegels and rks while edging where I don't count them, etc.

[Mr R.Kegel Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mr R.Kegel]

I have a small abdominal hernia, one inch above the navel. Do RK and RRL put much pressure on abs muscles? I do not want to overexert my abs muscles.
By the way this is my first post so I would like to say hello to everyone. Thank you Minuteman for this great guide, I am starting from today.

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I have a small abdominal hernia, one inch above the navel. Do RK and RRL put much pressure on abs muscles? I do not want to overexert my abs muscles.
By the way this is my first post so I would like to say hello to everyone. Thank you Minuteman for this great guide, I am starting from today.

I am not sure, however since you never did RK and RRL before and are not proficient from it (that is my assumption) I would suggest against doing RK and RRLs, before you do something about that hernia, because RK and RRL just might make it worse. I know little about hernias and cannot provide you with a better answer, but to be on the safe side I think you should not do them.

[unknown11112 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close unknown11112]

So i've been doing the routine, I stopped for a bit because I overworked and restared.
Today I was edging and I noticed when I ejaculated I was pushing a back kegal rather than a kegal?

Is this normal? Would finishing of the routine help prevent this, i'm only back on sublevel 0.2 day 1