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  • thanks for the quick reply!

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    • Hey Minuteman,

      Could you you take a look at my daily maintenance routine. It's basically a compressed version of all the levels:
      (Please note: ALL means Kegal reverse Kegal, root lock, reverse root lock)

      FLACCID
      lv0.2
      50-100 kegals ALL
      15 x 5 sec tri step Kegal & root lock only (increases in intensity)
      10x30 sec Kegal holds ALL (give up once 1 min holds are easier)
      10x 1 mins Kegal holds ALL
      10x5 sec bunker, flush, sine front, reverse front


      ERECT
      10x30 sec holds Kegal /root lock only
      20x10sec towel raises
      20xtri point 5 sec holds ALL
      10x5 secs bunker, flush, and reverse sine front.



      Any ways I could improve this? Perhaps split them into different days?

      Thanks
      BPEL: Jan 2013 - 7", EG: 4.3", March - 7.5", EG 4.7", July - 7.75", Nov - 8", Jan 2014 - 8.2/16ths, March 2014 - 8.25", Jun 29th - 8.5", Aug 15th - 8.10-11/16th" (nearly 8.75)

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      • Originally posted by Vociferous View Post
        Hey Minuteman,

        Could you you take a look at my daily maintenance routine. It's basically a compressed version of all the levels:
        (Please note: ALL means Kegal reverse Kegal, root lock, reverse root lock)

        FLACCID
        lv0.2
        50-100 kegals ALL
        15 x 5 sec tri step Kegal & root lock only (increases in intensity)
        10x30 sec Kegal holds ALL (give up once 1 min holds are easier)
        10x 1 mins Kegal holds ALL
        10x5 sec bunker, flush, sine front, reverse front


        ERECT
        10x30 sec holds Kegal /root lock only
        20x10sec towel raises
        20xtri point 5 sec holds ALL
        10x5 secs bunker, flush, and reverse sine front.



        Any ways I could improve this? Perhaps split them into different days?

        Thanks
        They seem to have all the needed elements, I would suggest doing either 10x30 Sec Kegel or 10x 1 mins kegel holds since it is to much strain to do them all.

        Also Kegel clenches or flexes (in your case 50-100 kegels All) should not be done since you have a much stronger holds, but it is up to you. Bunker, flush,since front etc are both good for isolation so it is a good idea to keep them as you did.

        Maybe it would be a good idea to do them every second day, and to do errect when you can (but at least once a week).


        When you finish the pelvic floor routine it would be a good contribution to post some feedback outlining pros and cons (doing a review basically ) so that I can take it into consideration when optimizing the routine in the future, feel free to outline any and everything you think is bad (or good) and the things that you have noticed that really helped you in the routine.
        Minuteman
        Member of the Month March 2013.
        Last edited by Minuteman; 06-17-2014, 09:43 AM.
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        • Hi Minuteman,

          Today, I went 45 mins in the fleshlight and then had a dry/retrograde orgasm. Then Waited a minute or so to recover then and started again. Erection was ok pretty hard not quite a semi.

          But my glans were quite sensitive not that bad because I could go for 10 mins. It's like when you cum and you get the girl to stop because its sensitive.

          Is the sensitivity something to get used to? It felt like I could for ages. Even if it is retrograde its better than nothing I don't care! As long as I last longer.

          Do you think its better to DO straight away so the sex last long and harder thrusting? My cock is quite numb after DO hence why I can pump harder.

          I will deffo give feedback btw.
          BPEL: Jan 2013 - 7", EG: 4.3", March - 7.5", EG 4.7", July - 7.75", Nov - 8", Jan 2014 - 8.2/16ths, March 2014 - 8.25", Jun 29th - 8.5", Aug 15th - 8.10-11/16th" (nearly 8.75)

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          • Originally posted by Vociferous View Post
            Hi Minuteman,

            Today, I went 45 mins in the fleshlight and then had a dry/retrograde orgasm. Then Waited a minute or so to recover then and started again. Erection was ok pretty hard not quite a semi.

            But my glans were quite sensitive not that bad because I could go for 10 mins. It's like when you cum and you get the girl to stop because its sensitive.

            Is the sensitivity something to get used to? It felt like I could for ages. Even if it is retrograde its better than nothing I don't care! As long as I last longer.

            Do you think its better to DO straight away so the sex last long and harder thrusting? My cock is quite numb after DO hence why I can pump harder.

            I will deffo give feedback btw.
            If you had sensitive glans chances are you had a retrograde ejaculation, when you have a DO you don't have sensitive glans you have the same kind of erection but will a little less arousal that comes back after a while, but you are able to exert more control.

            At the beginner level I see DO to be more as a clutch that you use in order to give yourself more lasting time. In other words you should not rush to PONR, because reliance on DO only when it comes to premature ejaculation is not a good idea long term you also need to develop arousal control, arousal conditioning and general stamina, both on the pelvic floor level and on the whole body level.
            Minuteman
            Member of the Month March 2013.
            Last edited by Minuteman; 06-24-2014, 05:09 AM.
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            • Minute man,

              Today I have two DOs/retros. The second one was very easy with no subsequent spasms!

              However, could you clarify it's better to kegal hold when you feel the START of the surge, which over rides reverse kegal? As in instead of the split second spasm which over rides. It's better to start kegal hold as soon as you feel the surge, built pressure or whatever you call it.

              Usually I try to catch the 1st spasm and a little bit of Cum will come out. So in order to be completly dry MAYBE SHOULD START KEGAL HOLD SLIGHTLY BEFORE 1st invol spasm?


              Thanks bro love this technique its working really well!
              BPEL: Jan 2013 - 7", EG: 4.3", March - 7.5", EG 4.7", July - 7.75", Nov - 8", Jan 2014 - 8.2/16ths, March 2014 - 8.25", Jun 29th - 8.5", Aug 15th - 8.10-11/16th" (nearly 8.75)

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              • Originally posted by Vociferous View Post
                Minute man,

                Today I have two DOs/retros. The second one was very easy with no subsequent spasms!

                However, could you clarify it's better to kegal hold when you feel the START of the surge, which over rides reverse kegal? As in instead of the split second spasm which over rides. It's better to start kegal hold as soon as you feel the surge, built pressure or whatever you call it.

                Usually I try to catch the 1st spasm and a little bit of Cum will come out. So in order to be completly dry MAYBE SHOULD START KEGAL HOLD SLIGHTLY BEFORE 1st invol spasm?


                Thanks bro love this technique its working really well!
                This part is the fine tuning part which is not the same for everybody. It is somewhat like natural reflexes, some has faster while other have slower reaction time, you should generally go with your hunches because chances are you are on the right road, because you know your body's response best. For me, for example, holding a kegel just as the reverse kegel is overridden is the way to go.
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                • Hi Minuteman. Do I must block my movement at all, till spasms finish, to avoid ejeculation? Or if I am trained enough it si not necessary? Thanks

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                  • Originally posted by Rinoceronte View Post
                    Hi Minuteman. Do I must block my movement at all, till spasms finish, to avoid ejeculation? Or if I am trained enough it si not necessary? Thanks
                    I am not sure to what you refer to by movement, but if it is the pelvic floor movement then if you have more than 2 (eventual 3) spasms it is a good idea to release to hold since it will most certainly be a bad DO since your kegel hold is not strong and/or complete enough. In a good DO you have at most 3 spasms (ideally 2 or 1) the first one is the strongest, the second one much weaker if at all noticeable and the third one (if it even occurs) is nothing more than the slight movement. When the spasms continue it means that most likely the sperm is going to the bladder, and that is not healthy and can lead to injuries.
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                    • You guy are very fortunate to have such very detailed instruction available to you.
                      While a number of guys onsite can DO; Minuteman's understanding and instruction is intricate.

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                      • Hey Minuteman, thank you so much for the guide and your constant commitment to this thread!

                        I wanted to ask you if my edging routine is beneficial to me, so here is how a typical session goes:

                        I use my head honcho and lube and start edging. I have pretty severe PE so I hit my PONR quickly, and then I take a 10 second or so break. After this break, I start at it again and hit the PONR a bit quicker. Usually this time I let myself get extremely close to orgasm then I hold a 15 second kegel. The first time I do this it is pretty easy, and after waiting 10 seconds or so after that I continue to edge. The next time I hit my PONR I get even closer to ejaculating and hold an intense kegel that at the beginning of my training would have made me ejaculate. After holding this one, sometimes a tiny bit of precum will come out if I squeeze my erection with my hand, but it is clear and is definitely not semen. If I take a 15 second or so break from this one I find that I can edge again for a bit longer before I hit my PONR, and I repeat this process as many times as I see fit.

                        I tried this during sex with my girlfriend, and after I held the second kegel I felt an orgasm but no semen came out. However, about 2 or so minutes later my penis went flacid, but I don't think I had a retro-ejac, I just think I'm not used to feeling an orgasm and then continuing to have sex.

                        Please give me some advice on my routine, and also some insight as to what may have happened to me during sex and what I can do to improve that.

                        Thanks again for maintaining such a great thread!

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                        • Originally posted by buzzaldrin` View Post
                          Hey Minuteman, thank you so much for the guide and your constant commitment to this thread!

                          I wanted to ask you if my edging routine is beneficial to me, so here is how a typical session goes:

                          I use my head honcho and lube and start edging. I have pretty severe PE so I hit my PONR quickly, and then I take a 10 second or so break. After this break, I start at it again and hit the PONR a bit quicker. Usually this time I let myself get extremely close to orgasm then I hold a 15 second kegel. The first time I do this it is pretty easy, and after waiting 10 seconds or so after that I continue to edge. The next time I hit my PONR I get even closer to ejaculating and hold an intense kegel that at the beginning of my training would have made me ejaculate. After holding this one, sometimes a tiny bit of precum will come out if I squeeze my erection with my hand, but it is clear and is definitely not semen. If I take a 15 second or so break from this one I find that I can edge again for a bit longer before I hit my PONR, and I repeat this process as many times as I see fit.

                          I tried this during sex with my girlfriend, and after I held the second kegel I felt an orgasm but no semen came out. However, about 2 or so minutes later my penis went flacid, but I don't think I had a retro-ejac, I just think I'm not used to feeling an orgasm and then continuing to have sex.

                          Please give me some advice on my routine, and also some insight as to what may have happened to me during sex and what I can do to improve that.

                          Thanks again for maintaining such a great thread!
                          The best way to know if you had retro ejaculation or not is to urinate in a cup and take note of how clear the content is, usually by then you will know. Also during that kegel hold you have to notice if you have kegel spasms or note. So while there is a good probability that you are right about your penis going flaccid because it is not used to orgasm and no ejaculation it might be that you have retro ejaculated.

                          On a side note, holding a strong kegel might be to taxing for your pelvic floor so it might be a good idea to at least finish level 0 before you continue to do that to have at least a little bit conditioned pelvic floor in order to prevent any injuries, or if nothing else then focus more on reverse kegels via deep squat stretching and reverse kegel breathing.

                          As for your edging routine, if you feel you are progressing then chances are you are getting benefits from it. Sometimes just trying to stay erect for more than 20 minutes for example can give you allot of benefits. But in time you should also add variations, in other words try to thrust with your body instead of using just the hand, try noticing which positions suit your better and which make you go to PONR faster so that you can get used to them. Also getting used to the arousal itself is a good idea, so you might look into 3day routine in order to see how you react with prolonged exposure to high arousal.
                          Minuteman
                          Member of the Month March 2013.
                          Last edited by Minuteman; 07-22-2014, 05:53 AM.
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                          • Minuteman,

                            I had 5 consecutive DOs today! First two only had a dribble and no secondary involuntary spasms. No cum came out on the last two and erection lasted throughout! I'm so happy!

                            How long after a DO would you wait before stroking again? As I noticed after fourth DO my recovery was quicker, I didn't have to wait long before stroking without worrying of triggering involuntary spasms.

                            THANKS FOR EVERYTHING MAN.
                            BPEL: Jan 2013 - 7", EG: 4.3", March - 7.5", EG 4.7", July - 7.75", Nov - 8", Jan 2014 - 8.2/16ths, March 2014 - 8.25", Jun 29th - 8.5", Aug 15th - 8.10-11/16th" (nearly 8.75)

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                            • Originally posted by Vociferous View Post
                              Minuteman,

                              I had 5 consecutive DOs today! First two only had a dribble and no secondary involuntary spasms. No cum came out on the last two and erection lasted throughout! I'm so happy!

                              How long after a DO would you wait before stroking again? As I noticed after fourth DO my recovery was quicker, I didn't have to wait long before stroking without worrying of triggering involuntary spasms.

                              THANKS FOR EVERYTHING MAN.
                              Congratulations, for some the road is easier, in your case it was more complicated but you succeeded, it tells more good about you then the guide, well done.

                              As for the pause, in ideal situations you don't really need to wait (when you get used to DOs enough you will be able to continue the stroking/thrusting right away), but generally you should wait at least to when you release the kegel hold for now. As you progress you will notice that you need less and less time to wait.
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                              • Thanks for the advice, I've started on level 0 and hopefully I start to notice better control.

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