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[psinstructor Member Find all posts View Profile Close psinstructor]

Still depends on the girl's size to begin with. If is she is 5' and 90 lbs soaking wet with a vagina to match (say can only take 5-6 inches)...there's no way she is likely going to take 9" or more, even with time. Maybe 7-8", given enough time an effort.

Then again, there are also likely girls out there who can take 8" naturally. Pretty sure anything feasible would be in their limits, since essentially no one, PE or otherwise, is going to have more than 9" or 10" in their lifetime.

I'm only 5'2" and 120 lbs and I can take 8-9 inches with comfort. But, I had to expand for my man.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

I'm only 5'2" and 120 lbs and I can take 8-9 inches with comfort. But, I had to expand for my man.

Is your man a member?

[Hater Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hater]

I'm only 5'2" and 120 lbs and I can take 8-9 inches with comfort. But, I had to expand for my man.

Wait didn't you say your man was small, as in under 8"?

[someone_like_u Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close someone_like_u]

Q, glad to see ya back and posting

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

I'm only 5'2" and 120 lbs and I can take 8-9 inches with comfort. But, I had to expand for my man.

Again, depends on the girl...although you are smaller, you clearly aren't down there if you can easily take larger ones. Pretty sure some porn stars (eg. Jenna Haze, Amai Liu, Merica Hase) all fit into that category as well.

[psinstructor Member Find all posts View Profile Close psinstructor]

Is your man a member?

Yes, he has been a member quite a while. He is DDCRLO

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

thanks you may have told us that already, but I missed it. Thanks for being supportive of his efforts. Yes he has especially nice testicles.

[Aang Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Aang]

Yes, he has been a member quite a while. He is DDCRLO

Cool!

[ehlolol Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ehlolol]

Hello, Qandisa
I havent read the entire thread, only your comment so this might have already been mentioned...

I find your argumentation kinda unconvincing. I get that you are trying to say that size doesnt matter.
But you are argumenting like this (abstracted):
2 Characteristics:
A. Dickquality (size/girth/...)
B. Personality (or rather - everything that is not the dick but the human behind it..)
Then you argument like this:
Good A + Bad B < Bad A + Good B
Why would you maximize and minimize in a XOR pattern?

What do you think of this?
Good A + Bad B < Bad A + Good B <<<<(waay)<<<< Good A + Good B

Its not likeevery guy with a big dick is a bad person nor a bad lover. Thats bogus!!!
The tendency might be that because of upcoming - growing up with a bigger dick and social norms surrounding it, might lead to specific personal characteristics which then lead to "Bad B". Like being more lazy and not really educating oneself because one is already contempt with what tool he has or whatever other reason...
A complete opposite of this might a guy with an "avg/bad A" who later joins pegym :P and gets a "good A".. what then??

Edit: This might be how sex gods are created. xD

[Qandisa Senior Member Member of the Month March 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Qandisa]

I find your argumentation kinda unconvincing. I get that you are trying to say that size doesnt matter.
But you are argumenting like this (abstracted):

{bunch of stuff snipped here}

Either you didn't really understand what I'm saying, or you're really overanalyzing things.

The basis of my statement is that just simply having a big dick does not make a man a better or more desirable lover. Period. So many guys seem to focus on the size and forget everything else. I've seen statements from members here who have absolutely average sized dicks that have basically said oh if I had a bigger dick then I wouldn't have any problems and life would be perfect. Oh I can't attract women because I don't have a big dick. That's ridiculous. It's not the size that's the problem, it's the insecurity that's the problem.

And I have never once said that having a big dick automatically equates to being a bad lover or a bad person. What I have said is that having a big dick does not automatically mean you're going to be a good lover, or a desirable lover. I've had several lovers that were on the "big" side. I've had 3 that were roughly 9". 2 of them were amongst the worst lovers I've ever had. 1 was quite good. Until I lost weight and sex with him actually became painful.

To repeat again - I'm saying that you cannot judge how good a lover a man is going to be just based on the size of his penis.

Okay yes there is a caveat to that - I know what size isn't comfortable for me, and I know that I don't ever want to be with a man whose dick is that size or larger ever again. I know that, for me, at a certain size it's not comfortable, it's not enjoyable, and in fact it's often accompanied by a really nauseous feeling. So in that respect it wouldn't matter how skilled he was, it's not going to be able to compensate for that.

Like being more lazy and not really educating oneself because one is already contempt with what tool he has or whatever other reason...

Sorry, I have to do this just because things like this really bother me:
contempt - disdain, despising, the feeling that something is unworthy of consideration or respect
content - peaceful, happy, satisfied

Edit: This might be how sex gods are created.

No, absolutely not. If you're thinking that then you're missing the point entirely. Being a "sex god", or an incredible lover, has very little to do with penis size. Unless you're at either end of the extreme (really small, or really big) then it really has almost nothing to do with it.

[Qandisa Senior Member Member of the Month March 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Qandisa]

I just wanted to mention this in the hope that it might help to counteract the "you need to be X to get a woman" nonsense. The 4 main things I keep seeing posted on here about "what women want" in a man is:
- Tall
- Rich
- Great/muscular body
- Big dick

I just spent 20 straight hours with NewFWB. Just to give you a bit of an idea of what he's like: 29, a little over 6' (I can hear some of you grumbling about "oh yeah of course tall guys get all the women already"). I have no idea how much money he makes, I don't really care. I've never asked him about it, and I never will. He doesn't drive a fancy car, he doesn't wear designer clothing. He's not ripped/buff/muscular. In fact I think every single time we've been together at some point he's asked if I'm sure I don't think he's too thin. I think his waist measurement might be smaller than my thigh. As far as penis size goes I haven't personally gotten out a ruler but from the measurement he gave and my own observation he's pretty much right smack on average.

I think he's fantastic.

20 hours together. He's one of the most incredible, most enjoyable lovers I've ever had.

He's not rich.
He's not buff.
He doesn't have a big dick.

For you guys who are saying those are things that a woman really wants, all I can say is that maybe that's true of some women, but not all of them. I'd say not most of them. And stop using things like that as excuses and crutches.

[ScarletSkull Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ScarletSkull]

^^^ what she said.

[ehlolol Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ehlolol]

I get it all.. i never said the opposite.. but i think my point has been completely missed/misunderstood/ignored...
Oh and about the contemtp-content thing- sry, stuff like that happens when u type fast without fully focusing on the typing but rather the line of thought... and having english as 5th learnt language probably adds to it.. but ty for correcting :P

Edit: Gonna try again:
I accept that having a big dick doesnt equate to good sex.. Never said the opposite.
But you argue that:
"I've had several lovers that were on the "big" side. I've had 3 that were roughly 9". 2 of them were amongst the worst lovers I've ever had"
Now lets say, u can play god - if you mold these 2 "worst lovers" and make them great lovers.. WHAT then.. thats my whole point..
those would be better than those past very great lovers with smallers dicks..
Well THAT was my actual question though.. thats why I asked what u think.. Lets see if my point gets across this time

Edit2: Just to be clear - I am NOT saying having a big dick = great sex.. Im differentiating between being a good lover and having a big dick.. Those are 2 separate things.. And as GOD, i maximize both, because you always maximize in a XOR pattern way like GREAT LOVER + SMALL DICK > BAD LOVER + BIG DICK..
why not GREAT LOVER + BIG DICK.. Where in all of this does the last combination stand.. Thats the question. I think i tried my best.. I cant explain it better, sry.

Edit3: Quandisa, regarding your post #83:
Lets loosely define "Great Lover" like this for the sake of my previously asked question:
Great Lover := Every womanly thought/idea that makes a man good/great/... IGNORING his dick completely.

[Qandisa Senior Member Member of the Month March 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Qandisa]

You really need to stop overanalyzing things. Seriously.

Having a bigger dick is not going to make someone a better lover. If there are 2 guys whose skill level is the same and one has a bigger dick, he's not necessarily going to be the better or preferential lover. If you took those 2 really bad lovers of mine with the big dicks and made them into great lovers then chances are they're still not going to be better than the guy I just spent the weekend with that had the average sized dick.

Really, stop focusing so much on dick size. Women really don't care as much as you guys seem to think we do. Unless it's so small that we can't feel it all, or so large that it hurts, the size makes almost no difference when it comes to how good a lover you are. When thinking about things like what goes into making a great lover you can't just assign equal weights of importance to all factors and then say well if we increase X then it's going to make a difference. Dick size is probably the least important factor.

I really don't know how to put it any other way. PENIS SIZE IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT. If you want me to assign weights and values to the importance of various factors then passion, intensity, skill, attentiveness, creativity etc are all probably at least 20x more important than penis size. So trying to break it down to an equation where "well but what if penis size was X" is meaningless.

[ehlolol Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ehlolol]

"If there are 2 guys whose skill level is the same and one has a bigger dick, he's not necessarily going to be the better or preferential lover."
That statement answers it. Interesting...
A couple of female friends of mine argued differently though.. I guess everyone is different..

There is also this interesting video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpYGdcQe01s
Sure, they are all throwing out numbers there.. And even if they say 7 - 7.5 inches what they actually mean is probably average and a little above (what translates to ~5.5).
But still, to some degree, size matters. These woman or a specific amount of woman in general would prefer lets say a 6'' penis over a 4'' (assuming 2 identical guys otherwise)
Edit: 1:21 - "6'' (avg) if you're not experienced, but if you are good, it can be smaller"
Interesting.. This further enforces that size matters.

I might sound overanalyzing, obsessing and similar but im not.. To be completely honest, I dont really care that much. Its just I am very new to PE and I never really thought about it before thats why Im going to such great lengths and formulating long and complicated sounding answers :P

Gn8