Incogneeetoe's "Progress" thread

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I am sorry to hear you've been burning out over the past few months. They say that life between the ages of 35 and 55 is particularly hectic in a man's life. So here you are! It is important to recharge, taking some time off for yourself. Don't worry about not posting here... first tend to your overall health. This forum should not be your top priority anyway.

Doing PE was a method meditation and helped me keep the mind centered, but now I am mentally tired with PE.

I was just wondering about that. What aspect of PE is mentally effortful or requires a lot of concentration... is it factors like committing to the routine at the same times, following thru with the schedule... or is it more in the routine itself, putting your mind fully to the practice, meditating about some particular aspect, maintaining the right erection levels throughout the routine? Reason I ask is that I am at a stage where the newness of the routine is enjoyable, but not yet mentally taxing.

One of the contributing factors is my own minor penile dysmorphia. I didn't want to talk about it here because it is so stupid, but maybe by putting it down in writing I'll get it out of my head:

I was on reddit a couple of weeks back, lurking on BDP. This is usually a waste of time, too much exaggeration, so I try not to get too deep into it, but once in a while an interesting discussion will pop up. This one thread brought up a redditor with a verified 10 inch erection.

These types of things pop up here from time to time, too. I will look at them out of curiosity, and 99% of the time it is BS. It's always some guy with a fairly big member using camera tricks, etc, to exaggerate his own masculinity. We all know how really rare a penis that size is.

But this one looked real. A few folks at BDP were in denial, but there was some forensics done. And it shook me for some reason. By any measure I have a fairly big erection. Relatively speaking what I saw is not that much bigger than mine, but it just looked huge. Made me feel jealous. I have not have felt jealous of another man's penis in over 15 years. And jealousy is a terrible thing.

Silly, right?

Well, I think to some extent, everyone on this board has some form or other (no matter how light) of penile dysmorphia. I would be lying if I stated that all I want out of my journey here is pure penile health. Surely, I would welcome an increase in size (heck, I would farking LOVE that! ). Personally, for much that I try to cast away the need for a bigger cock, I think it may be tied to my sense of masculinity: "If I acquire a bigger cock through PE, then I'll feel the better for it." Artistic depictions throughout different cultures through millennia are a testament to that insistent desire. Men are merely human, not perfect, in the misplaced desire for a bigger peen. And I guess women roll their eyes and put up with it!

Like you, I have also erred in consulting reddit boards in order to find out more about that 'special' community. I no longer do though, as I have come to realize that the site is riddled with people that have lost the meaning of living a full life. To live for the sake of impressing others about the prowess of one's member is a sign that they have given up on the life goals that would truly make them happy. This is a 'surrogate' replacement for happiness that could not be found through more fulfilling means. Which I find a little sad. There is nothing about building something within a community, or improving the world... it's all about the ego. One-upmanship. As soon as you discover the underlying suffering that permeates that board, you'll run the other way.

Back to you: you already know that your peen is perfect if not larger than what your wife can take. So I'm not sure that you actually DO want it larger. Explore that question... why the need to be the 'biggest'? Could it be an impelling sense of competition? Did your drive to self-actualize take you too far? Or as you pointed out, is it because of marital issues back home? Did you consider talking to your wife about the recent changes, and the needs you feel are not being met? Perhaps she may open up about how important the job is to her and how she regrets not having the energy (in spite of wanting to). Point is, you may gain a lot by clarifying that with her. If you're brave, you may even open up about your PE journey not just being about health... that increased size meant wanting to be the best for her (or whatever the case may be) depending on how receptive you think she'll be to hear it. But the essence is communication... this in itself will remove several of the roadblocks you've been experiencing of late.

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I am sorry to hear you've been burning out over the past few months. They say that life between the ages of 35 and 55 is particularly hectic in a man's life. So here you are! It is important to recharge, taking some time off for yourself. Don't worry about not posting here... first tend to your overall health. This forum should not be your top priority anyway.

Thanks for taking an interest Mindful. Nice to see someone is reading...

I was just wondering about that. What aspect of PE is mentally effortful or requires a lot of concentration... is it factors like committing to the routine at the same times, following thru with the schedule... or is it more in the routine itself, putting your mind fully to the practice, meditating about some particular aspect, maintaining the right erection levels throughout the routine? Reason I ask is that I am at a stage where the newness of the routine is enjoyable, but not yet mentally taxing.

It is two things, I guess: the daily grind aspect of it, feeling that it has to be done and scheduling it in the daily routine is a little much.
The other part is trying to keep up my contributions here. I took on being a mod at a time I thought I'd be able to contribute more. And I feel that I am not doing my part.

Back to you: you already know that your peen is perfect if not larger than what your wife can take. So I'm not sure that you actually DO want it larger. Explore that question... why the need to be the 'biggest'? Could it be an impelling sense of competition? Did your drive to self-actualize take you too far?

It really is purely selfish. Having a big hard erection feels good. It felt good at 7 inches. It feels better at a bigger size, so I see that guy and I think it must feel great to have that erection.

Or as you pointed out, is it because of marital issues back home? Did you consider talking to your wife about the recent changes, and the needs you feel are not being met? Perhaps she may open up about how important the job is to her and how she regrets not having the energy (in spite of wanting to). Point is, you may gain a lot by clarifying that with her.

No, I do not think so. I am pretty comfortable in how our life is. We have periods of more sex an periods of no sex. It happens. We generally have a month out of the year we live apart due to family/life stuff (bi-cultural marriage), so I can deal. I am here to support her in this job, she'll be the supportive one when I start to write my dissertation. It's gibe and take.

If you're brave, you may even open up about your PE journey not just being about health... that increased size meant wanting to be the best for her (or whatever the case may be) depending on how receptive you think she'll be to hear it. But the essence is communication... this in itself will remove several of the roadblocks you've been experiencing of late.

She knows a great deal about my PE life, how it has helped with PreE, Ed, etc. She just does not know about the size impact. No need. I like the surprise on her face when after 15 years together it still does not all fit.
Thanks for asking, though.

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Wow! Great log man. To be honest, the things i would do to get your size. You are what every man dreams of. You have a monster cock bro! Your soft penis sticks out in front of your pants! Never be ashamed of this man! Who cares what little kids think or whatever but the woman know who walk around and look at it that your hung! Should be great confidence booster! I take it your woman is a one-two orgasm woman? After reading your log, i felt frustrated sometimes because i wanted you to get more pussy after 20minutes! If i was you with that thang, i would be rocking her life out for 1hour+. But i understand when she says it hurts. I am in between 5.5-6inches fully hard. I am a grower and not a shower. My flaccid penis is small like 2-3 inches. Looks like a baby penis sometimes tbh but it gets bigger when i get an erection.

So here are my questions:
1) Your log has given me hope in the area of PE again. I started on JP90 routine but never stayed consistent. All i ever wanted was a bigger penis. I know size matters to an extent because i am that the level that is barely enough to have good sex. If i was anything less than 5.5, i wouldnt satisfy a woman i believe. My end goal is 7 inches in length and idk about girth ive never measured girth. is Jp90 a good routine to get started on my PE goals? You commented on my other post about confidence and i believe i am missing that a lot partly due to being average in size. Small in non erect form as well. I know that getting a bigger healthier penis will give me more confidence and help with my PRE-E.


2) How are you able to edge do your PE stuff and still be ready to have sex? Does it take time to get use to doing your PE daily and having sex the same day and edging? I feel like my penis will be worn out if i try to do all of that. But then sometthing inside me tells me it will make me more in shape just like if i went to the gym every day and worked out. How much did PE help your Pre-e when it came to confidence? I read about your 70% erection that would affect your stamina. Sometimes she will get on top of me riding me and im at 70% but i jump to 9.5 on PONR and dont get to 90% erection or plateau as they say to enjoy it. I have learned how to kegal right before i Cum which lets me have sex for as long as i want, but the IK's are there very often. I have to stop or pull out a whole bunch while having sex with my gf and i dont think it bothers her because she gets off so much and enjoys it but i would like to be able to take it and not pull out. We usually have sex for atleast an hour sometimes two of changing positions but i last the most in doggy style standing up. Cowgirl and reverse have been very difficult.

3) How did you fix your pelvic floor? WHen having sex, i feel little Ik"s even from the beginning or her trying to ride me and i feel like i have to pop already. You know that feeling. Your trying to stop the IK's but your at a 9.9 the whole time from the beginning. The last time we had sex, we were in doggy and i felt good strong erection so i switched to cowgirl , let her ride me until she squirted on my chest. Felt great and the feeling of being at a 9 and being able to take it , relaxed pelvic floor was great. I want to be able to sustain that all the time.


Sorry if i confused you at all but after reading your log, i am going to start my PE journey forreal this time. Size is important for confidence for me and i want to have a longer flaccid penis and harder bigger penis at fully erect. This will help me with Pre-E with confidence as i am lacking that a little right now. I am also going to start edging atleast 4-5 times a week, as i am already doing yoga/ pelvic floor stretches/apt workouts/hindi squats every day. Hopefully PE,Edging/pelvic floor work will cure me. What would you recommend as beginner for PE work?

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Wow! Great log man. To be honest, the things i would do to get your size. You are what every man dreams of. You have a monster cock bro! Your soft penis sticks out in front of your pants! Never be ashamed of this man! Who cares what little kids think or whatever but the woman know who walk around and look at it that your hung! Should be great confidence booster! I take it your woman is a one-two orgasm woman? After reading your log, i felt frustrated sometimes because i wanted you to get more pussy after 20minutes! If i was you with that thang, i would be rocking her life out for 1hour+. But i understand when she says it hurts. I am in between 5.5-6inches fully hard. I am a grower and not a shower. My flaccid penis is small like 2-3 inches. Looks like a baby penis sometimes tbh but it gets bigger when i get an erection.

Size is really a personal thing. For the most part women don't care. For me it is about how it feels to me. I like the feeling of being hard. Bigger the erection the better the feeling.

So here are my questions:
1) Your log has given me hope in the area of PE again. I started on JP90 routine but never stayed consistent. ... is Jp90 a good routine to get started on my PE goals? You commented on my other post about confidence and i believe i am missing that a lot partly due to being average in size. ... getting a bigger healthier penis will give me more confidence and help with my PRE-E.

Consistency is probably the main difference between guys who make gains and guys who don't. I've read a lot of stuff here, and over and over again consistency comes up. The JP90 gets a lot of good mentions. I never did it, but I still recommend it as a good start to everyone. Gotta get into healthy condition, then start doing the more advanced exercises.

2) How are you able to edge do your PE stuff and still be ready to have sex? Does it take time to get use to doing your PE daily and having sex the same day and edging?... How much did PE help your Pre-e when it came to confidence?

I think it has to do with training. The more you do, the more you can do. It took me some time to get used to it, but now it does not have any impact on sex. In fact a couple of times I have gone too far in edging and gone over the edge. Then the wife wants to do it, but no problem, even 45 minutes later.
The PE was the way I controlled the Pre-E. Daily PE got me used to the sensations, etc.

3) How did you fix your pelvic floor? WHen having sex, i feel little Ik"s even from the beginning or her trying to ride me and i feel like i have to pop already. You know that feeling. Your trying to stop the IK's but your at a 9.9 the whole time from the beginning.

I spent a month once just focusing on the IKs. It takes some concentration in edging, but it can be done.
I work on plateau edging, not PONR. So I am used to getting to 90% on the EQ scale and staying there to keep clam. But even at 90% I am pretty hard. My wife often thinks I am at the edge as I feel so hard to her, but I'm still not at 100%.

Sorry if i confused you at all but after reading your log, i am going to start my PE journey forreal this time. Size is important for confidence for me and i want to have a longer flaccid penis and harder bigger penis at fully erect. This will help me with Pre-E with confidence as i am lacking that a little right now. I am also going to start edging atleast 4-5 times a week, as i am already doing yoga/ pelvic floor stretches/apt workouts/hindi squats every day. Hopefully PE,Edging/pelvic floor work will cure me. What would you recommend as beginner for PE work?

Happy to answer any questions.

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Okay after reading your comments, when you jelqed , did you get a big erection? the times ive JP90'ed when i jelq, i couldnt have a good 80% erection. usually it was 50% or lower. can you jelq flaccid and still get good gains and good erection quality? I felt like i hadn't mastered the jelq yet and maybe was doing it ineffective but i was going off the videos here on the forum. I think i want to take a month as well of mainly focusing on IK's. I mean if i cant fix this, i wont be able to solve my physical side. I have anxiety performance issues but that comes from my pelvic floor being so tight from the beginning of sensations that my IK are out of control which makes me have the anxiety. Or maybe the anxiety causes me to be so tense? From my personal expierence, its been mostly the physicAL side with some mental problems. All in all, i think my mindset needs to change. I will have Pre-E for a while but i need to manage and control it. like you said PE helped PRe-E. I need to start there. Bigger penis = more confidence= more stamina. lets see how this goes. Will be reading up on a lot of stuff, i want to measure my size again, know all the terms for PE. BPEL all that stype of stuff where can i find the info for terms for PE. So i can start logging my journey better. and should i measure with a meter stick orwhat?

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Okay after reading your comments, when you jelqed , did you get a big erection? the times ive JP90'ed when i jelq, i couldnt have a good 80% erection. usually it was 50% or lower. can you jelq flaccid and still get good gains and good erection quality?

This is all base don my own experience, so keep in mind we are all different.

I I generally do my main jelq after getting a big erection. I get up to 100%, then let the erection subside to the level I want and jelq. Most of the time the jelq keeps it at the desired level.
I have read some conflicting information on flaccid jelqing. I do it a lot. Not a lot of jelqs, but scattered in my routines I do flaccid jelqing. To help warm up, to stretch out the penis etc. I do not do flaccid jelqs ery intensly, just a light stroke.

I felt like i hadn't mastered the jelq yet and maybe was doing it ineffective but i was going off the videos here on the forum. I think i want to take a month as well of mainly focusing on IK's. I mean if i cant fix this, i wont be able to solve my physical side.

I did not like jelqing and tried many other things (Big Al Jelq Free, for example). But, like you, it was just I had not gotten a hang of it. Now it is a go to exercise.
For the IKs, I did my daily edging with just that focus. In shower, eyes closed, all attention on the IK. It was a daily thing for about 15 mins at a time. But I got them under control.

I have anxiety performance issues but that comes from my pelvic floor being so tight from the beginning of sensations that my IK are out of control which makes me have the anxiety. Or maybe the anxiety causes me to be so tense? From my personal expierence, its been mostly the physicAL side with some mental problems. All in all, i think my mindset needs to change. I will have Pre-E for a while but i need to manage and control it. like you said PE helped PRe-E. I need to start there. Bigger penis = more confidence= more stamina.

For me the PE helped in terms of getting accustomed to the constant attention to my erection, not just the size. By doing daily PE I was accustoming myself to that intense feeling all the time.
That being said, once I started to see big EQ gains and size gains it did add confidence.

lets see how this goes. Will be reading up on a lot of stuff, i want to measure my size again, know all the terms for PE. BPEL all that stype of stuff where can i find the info for terms for PE. So i can start logging my journey better. and should i measure with a meter stick orwhat?

Look at the START HERE! stuff up at the top left. Scroll down to the Great Starter Threads and there is a link to the Abbreviations and Acronyms.

A couple of other things I recommend all the time are:

- To avoid chasing numbers. Measure once every few months.
- Go by feel. Try to not look at your own erection for a long period. A month, if possible. Do the PE and Edging by feel alone. You will be amazed at how big you feel after a while and then when you do see it again it will look big.

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Last week, the 1st to 5th I eased off slightly and did this:

Morning Warm Up -> right when I get up.

• 60 1 handed squeezes (right hand then left)
• 30 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 30 In-Out Pulls (same grip)
• 30 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 30 pelvic thrusts (maintain grip)
• 10 dry jelqs (left hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 10 dry jelqs (right hand)
• Straight out stretch (Count of 30)
• Stretch each direction for 20 seconds.
• 10 dry jelqs (left hand)
• Two handed grip shoulder raises (Count of 30 x 2)
• 10 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, right hand

Afternoon Uli

• 80 1 handed squeezes (left hand then right)
• 40 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 40 In-Out Pulls (same grip)
• 40 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 40 pelvic thrusts (same grip)
• 12 dry jelqs (left hand)
• 40 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 12 dry jelqs (right hand)
• 2 mixed stretches (Count of 70 each)
• 10 dry jelqs (left hand)
• 2 mixed stretches (Count of 70 each)
• 24 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 40 helicopter twirls, right hand
• Jerk 80 against curve
• Jerk 80 with curve
• Jerk 80 against curve
• Jerk 80 with curve
• Get to 100%
• Relax to 85/95% - Jelq > 36 up, 48 palm down (24 down and 24 straight out)
• Relax to 65/75% - Jelq > 36 palm up, 60 palm down (30 down and 30 straight out)

Evening (before and in shower)

• 60 one handed squeezes
• 30 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 30 Pulls (same grip)
• 30 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 30 pelvic thrusts (maintain grip)
• 8 dry jelqs (left hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 8 dry jelqs (right hand)
• 60 bicep curls
• 8 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, right hand
• Get erect to 100% EQ in hot shower
• 50 towel raises (1 second count)
• 2 towel holds (count of 40)
• 12 towel raises (count of 5)

Morning wood was indicative that this a good reduction.
Plus nailed the wife last night, had a skin splitting erection, yet did not get close to PONR even after ten minutes in missionary. She wanted to ride cowgirl, but could not sit up straight on it, was too hard. Orgasmed quickly with just 3~ inches. Rolled her over and took her jockey, again she orgasmed again quickly with just 4~5 inches in her.

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Trying something different in my evening edging sessions:

I'm dropping the towel raises for a few weeks but added in hard kegels.

I get warmed up then as hard as possible, then do a kegel (root lock?) and hold for as long as possible. Then repeat as many times as possible in duration of shower.

I will get in shower, get 100% hard, kegel.
Then get 100% hard again, kegel and wash privates while kegeling.
Get get 100% hard again, kegel and wash hair, etc.

I like the impact it seems to have. By the end of the session my erection is really pumped up.
I also note that the third day of this the erection does not subside as much after the kegel. The first few times at the end of the log kegel it would be at 80 to 85%n but after a few days it stays close to 95% at end of each kegel.

Gonna keep at it it for a few weeks and see how it goes.

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This progress and there is progress, if you know what I mean. Seeing numbers inch up on the ruler is one thing, but more satisfying is improving PIV sex.

Last night this wife and I had a long session, 50 minutes of PIV sex, with about 40 minutes of straight thrusting and 4 orgasms.

Yesterday she wore this hot outfit that showed off her tasty behind and emphasized her breasts. Not too revealing, just hot. So I was ready to nail her behind to the bed by the time the son was asleep. I Started with a back massage, but she was hot and ready only a few minutes into it, pushing her behind up towards my erection. So I took her in jockey position. I thrusted at an easy and steady pace and she orgasmed fairly quickly. I was quite satisfied as I had no PreE difficulty at all.

Usually this is where we stop, with her feeling some pain from the size of my erection. So I pulled out and started to clean off. But she pulled me towards her and started kissing me. We continued to kiss and she lay back and we went at it missionary style for a while. Still no difficulty on my part.

She wanted to change to cowgirl, so we maneuvered to her on top. She took it slow at first, but soon said she wanted to do it "This way...", getting up into a squat position and thrusting up and down. That was hard, but she orgasmed again soon enough, so while I was close to the PONR, my tension was released with her orgasm. She remained on top, continuing to bounce up and down. I was getting close again, but so was she. At one point I had to make her stop (not wearing a condom) so I could relax a little. She said "You're so hard, I can't stop!". I held her in place for a moment, then clamped down on the PC muscle and let her ride to a loud third orgasm. After a moment she recovered and said "Third time was the best".

She was a little worn out on top, but didn't want to stop, so we rolled back to missionary for a while, but I wanted to try out sideways, so rolled her onto her said. I was able to use that angle to get in really deep. Only about and inch out in the air. She felt it too, starting to squirm and buck. After a few minutes she moved herself back into jockey position. She had a long loud lead up to her fourth orgasm, saying in sexy voice "You're so hard! ...Why is it so big and hard?! ...I'm gonna cum...oh, I'm gonna cum..." then finally blurting out "I'm cumming!"

Even with her reaction I did not loose control, no problem with PreE!. After the fourth orgasm, though, she was done. Too big, she said. But after I pulled out and she rolled over she did five me a high five, saying "Fourth was the best ever."

We spoke for a few minutes, talking about how good it was and we should do that more often, etc. The she went to shower off. I glanced at the clock, thinking it had been about 25 minutes, but turned out it was 50. With all but that 5 minute break of necking after her first orgasm PIV sex.

I'm not sure if it was the best sex I've ever had, but I am pretty sure it was my best performance.

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Last week, the 8th to 12th I continued to ease off:

Morning Warm Up -> right when I get up.

• 60 1 handed squeezes (right hand then left)
• 30 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 30 In-Out Pulls (same grip)
• 30 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 30 pelvic thrusts (maintain grip)
• 10 dry jelqs (left hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 10 dry jelqs (right hand)
• Straight out stretch (Count of 30)
• Stretch each direction for 20 seconds.
• 10 dry jelqs (left hand)
• Two handed grip shoulder raises (Count of 30 x 2)
• 10 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, right hand

Afternoon (Note: I only did this Tues, Wed, Thurs)

• 80 1 handed squeezes (left hand then right)
• 40 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 40 In-Out Pulls (same grip)
• 40 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 40 pelvic thrusts (same grip)
• 12 dry jelqs (left hand)
• 40 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 12 dry jelqs (right hand)
• 2 mixed stretches (Count of 70 each)
• 12 dry jelqs (left hand)
• 2 mixed stretches (Count of 70 each)
• 12 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 40 helicopter twirls, right hand
• Jerk 80 against curve
• Jerk 80 with curve
• Jerk 80 against curve
• Jerk 80 with curve
• Get to 100%
• Relax to 85/95% - Jelq > 36 up, 48 palm down (24 down and 24 straight out)
• Relax to 65/75% - Jelq > 36 palm up, 60 palm down (30 down and 30 straight out)

Evening (before and in shower)

• 60 one handed squeezes
• 30 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 30 Pulls (same grip)
• 30 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 30 pelvic thrusts (maintain grip)
• 8 dry jelqs (left hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 8 dry jelqs (right hand)
• 60 bicep curls
• 8 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, right hand
• Get erect to 100% EQ in hot shower
• 5 Kegel Holds (1 second count)

I should note that i have stopped the 5G tea for the month of July. It is recommended to not take Ginseng and Ginkgo continuously, so I generally have a few times a year that I skip a week. But for this July I am going a whole month (garlic is unavoidable).
I notice that erections are starting to be less impressive during edging.
During sex erections are 100% fine. Indeed, after the long session I detailed above my erection would not subside even 15 minutes after we had finished. I wanted to have a bowel movement, but had to sit there on the throne with my erection on the seat, waiting for it to go down.

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Last week, the 15th to 19th I really eased back:

(In fact, it was only 15th to 18th, I took Friday off)

Morning Warm Up -> right when I get up.

• 60 1 handed squeezes (right hand then left)
• 30 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 30 In-Out Pulls (same grip)
• 30 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 30 pelvic thrusts (maintain grip)
• 10 dry jelqs (left hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 10 dry jelqs (right hand)
• Straight out stretch (Count of 30)
• Stretch each direction for 20 seconds.
• 10 dry jelqs (left hand)
• Two handed grip shoulder raises (Count of 30 x 2)
• 10 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, right hand

Evening (before and in shower)

• 60 one handed squeezes
• 30 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 30 Pulls (same grip)
• 30 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 30 pelvic thrusts (maintain grip)
• 8 dry jelqs (left hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 8 dry jelqs (right hand)
• 60 bicep curls
• 8 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, right hand
• Get erect to 100% EQ in hot shower
• 5 Kegel Holds (1 second count)

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After a long period of intense work, I wanted to ease back and rest/cement for a while. I did a week of less intense, then a week of even lesser intensity. Last week was just coasting. This week I am going to do a bit more intense work, the the following two weeks I will be off completely as we are going on vacation. I may make time for edging, and hopefully there will be sex, but the son will be sharing a hotel room with us, so it is going to be tricky.

I mentioned, I had stopped the 5G tea for the month of July. But as I will be off the next few weeks, I decided to experiment a little this week. I will be taking ginkgo and ginger. I doubled my ginkgo intake yesterday, as generally i just take one dose, but the bottle recommends three, so yesterday I took two.

I did some edging in the evening (bout an hour after the second ginkgo) and the erection was good. Much better than the last few weeks without ginkgo (placebo effect?). Then later during sex the erections was working at 110%. Indeed, my wife was quite vocal in her assessment of how big and hard it was. Then even after a fairly long session and ejaculating my erection would not subside even 15 minutes after we had finished. I waited on the john with my erection on the seat, as it would not go down.

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Hey buddy, just thought I would let you know I have read through this entire thread AGAIN recently and it gives me nothing but inspiration and massive amounts of motivation! Out of all the progress threads and the other PEers on the forum no ones progress and logging has inspired me as much as you. I really do enjoy reading what you post. I think my favourite posts have to be when you report back about sexual encounters with your wife and her comments! These are the kind of reactions I hope to get one day. Keep up the good work and keep posting!

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Back from vacation, so want to jot down some notes:

The weeks of the 29th to 1st and 5th to 9th were off weeks. I did almost nothing PE related. Almost nothing as I did get erections. Every second day or so I made sure to get a good erection in the shower. Did a few stretches, got warmed up, got hard, etc.

The first few times the erections were nothing too special, but after a few days off I did note that I was getting better EQ.

We were sharing a hotel room with our son the first week, so no nooky.

The second week we were in a camp ground in a special tent that had separations between bedrooms. So my wife was all over me a couple of times. She noticed the improved EQ. Unfortunately I had not brought any condoms, so I was not able to ejaculate. The first couple of times it was not a problem. But the third time I was struggling, and to make it worse I was insanely hard, so my wife couldn't control herself. She was riding cowgirl, and as I neared the PONR I would try to get her to slow down. She'd stop for a moment, but then would start right away, saying she couldn't control herself, and I was too big and too hard.

This week I am starting to do some PE, a basic routine at wake up then a long edging session.
Going to continue at this pace for August, I think. The I'll see where I am going in November.

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The last couple of weeks I have been doing a maintenance routine. Nothing intense, just keeping in shape and working on EQ:

First week
Morning Warm Up -> right when I get up.

• 60 1 handed squeezes (right hand then left)
• 30 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 30 In-Out Pulls (same grip)
• 30 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 30 pelvic thrusts (maintain grip)
• 30 Rolling* (two hands hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 30 Rolling (two hands)
• 5 direction Stretch (30 seconds. each)
• 10 dry jelqs (left hand)
• Two handed grip shoulder raises (Count of 30 x 2)
• 10 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, right hand

Evening (before and in shower)

• 80 one handed squeezes
• 40 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 40 In and out Pulls (same grip)
• 40 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 40 pelvic thrusts (maintain grip)
• 30 Rolling (two hands)
• 30 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 30 Rolling (two hands)
• 60 bicep curls
• 8 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 40 helicopter twirls, right hand
• Get erect to 100% EQ in hot shower
• 5 Kegel Holds (1 minute count)
• 50 jelqs at 60% EQ (20 up, 30 straight)

* Roll your penis gently back and forth between the palms of your both hands.

Second week
Morning Warm Up -> right when I get up.

• 60 1 handed squeezes (right hand then left)
• 30 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 30 In-Out Pulls (same grip)
• 30 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 30 pelvic thrusts (maintain grip)
• 30 Rolling* (two hands hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 30 Rolling (two hands)
• 5 direction Stretch (30 seconds each)
• 10 dry jelqs (left hand)
• Two handed grip shoulder raises (Count of 30 x 2)
• 10 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 30 helicopter twirls, right hand

Evening (before and in shower)

• 80 one handed squeezes
• 40 two handed squeezes (alternating hands)
• 40 In and out Pulls (same grip)
• 40 two handed squeezes (reverse grip, simultaneous)
• 40 pelvic thrusts (maintain grip)
• 30 Rolling (two hands)
• 30 helicopter twirls, left hand
• 30 Rolling (two hands)
• 5 direction stretch (isolated tunica)
• 60 bicep curls
• 8 dry jelqs (Right hand)
• 40 helicopter twirls, right hand
• Get erect to 100% EQ in hot shower
• 5 Kegel Holds at max EQ (1 minute count)
• 60 jelqs at 60% EQ (24 up, 36 straight)