Gotcha, for a little over 4 weeks I've been following a very similar routine to yours since I've found this thread. Definitely some great information! I've gained right at about .2" since then, I now believe the intensity is where it's at. Before then, I followed JP90 for about 9 weeks with good results but this new routine seems to do good.
When doing your routine do you experience turtling ?
No, my flaccid only acts up when I also jelq, it gets thicker and loses some of its nice liquidy softness, but it never goes outside of its natural length range.
Are you still plateau edging everyday for 30 minutes ?
... which I confirmed today, and EQ seems to have taken a massive hit this time. It was to be expected, as I hadn't yet recovered from the previous FSL gain. This looks promising, and since it will probably take a long time to come back no matter what, I will take the opportunity to once and for all put jelqing to the test: I will alternate 3 days with jelqing / 3 days without, and see the effects on EQ.
... which I confirmed today, and EQ seems to have taken a massive hit this time. It was to be expected, as I hadn't yet recovered from the previous FSL gain. This looks promising, and since it will probably take a long time to come back no matter what, I will take the opportunity to once and for all put jelqing to the test: I will alternate 3 days with jelqing / 3 days without, and see the effects on EQ.
Since I stretch for length exclusively as well, I occasionally throw in a jelq session if my EQ has been suffering for a couple of days. It always seems to help.
So, it's not a critical part of my routine, I mainly just use it as a tool to combat poor EQ.
"I simply am not there..."
"Sharp like an edge of a Samurai sword, the mental blade cuts through flesh and bone."
Start BPEL: (7/30/16) : 17.5 cm
Current BPEL: ? (pending)
Current NBP: 19cm
BPFSL : 23.3 cm
Hi guys, actually been doing stretches since 3 months no gain at all, stans strech diference are shock strech and both hand stretch, it looks intensity lying under her success, I am unable to do 5 times PE a day? So should I forget to get gains from this workout? I can have one session evening so what can I do best about stan's routine, how many reps?
Surprisingly EQ has been quickly improving, and it happened with basically no jelqing, not even 10 strokes a day, so I'm going to keep it that way as I really don't like what more jelqing does to my flaccid.
Yesterday it was pretty good and my BPEL was a consistent 9"29/32, it even went dangerously close to the 15/16" mark once
This is all very exciting, but despite the measurements I can't bring myself to actually believe I've made gains because it doesn't really look any bigger to me.
I don't know, maybe the current darker look makes it look beefier hence shorter (I know it usually does in photos), or maybe I've made a tiny girth gain (it does feel thicker near the head), or maybe my fatpad/fascia has been creeping up the shaft yet a little more (it does look that way). It doesn't look that big to me anymore in older photos either though, so there's that.
Actually been doing stretches since 3 months no gain at all, stans strech diference are shock strech and both hand stretch, it looks intensity lying under her success, I am unable to do 5 times PE a day? So should I forget to get gains from this workout? I can have one session evening so what can I do best about stan's routine, how many reps?
It's not really a problem if you can't split your workout, just make sure you get 15-20 minutes of hard stretching daily, with a few casual stretches here and there, and you should be good.
Actually I don't spread my workout through the whole day anymore either, now I do it as late as I can because it's more stretchable then.
Still I don't like the idea of one big session but that's just me, it would be boring and I'd have to go wash my hands and glans every two minutes to refresh the grip anyway.
Also you shouldn't think in terms of reps but of how it feels, and you should learn how to measure your BPFSL accurately and consistently so you know where you stand and don't waste your time doing things that aren't working.
Surprisingly EQ has been quickly improving, and it happened with basically no jelqing, not even 10 strokes a day, so I'm going to keep it that way as I really don't like what more jelqing does to my flaccid.
Yesterday it was pretty good and my BPEL was a consistent 9"29/32, it even went dangerously close to the 15/16" mark once
This is all very exciting, but despite the measurements I can't bring myself to actually believe I've made gains because it doesn't really look any bigger to me.
I don't know, maybe the current darker look makes it look beefier hence shorter (I know it usually does in photos), or maybe I've made a tiny girth gain (it does feel thicker near the head), or maybe my fat pad has been creeping up the shaft yet a little more (it does look that way). It doesn't look that big to me anymore in older photos either though, so there's that.
It's not really a problem if you can't split your workout, just make sure you get 15-20 minutes of hard stretching daily, with a few casual stretches here and there, and you should be good.
Actually I don't spread my workout through the whole day anymore either, now I do it as late as I can because it's more stretchable then.
Still I don't like the idea of one big session but that's just me, it would be boring and I'd have to go wash my hands and glans every two minutes to refresh the grip anyway.
Also you shouldn't think in terms of reps but of how it feels, and you should learn how to measure your BPFSL accurately and consistently so you know where you stand and don't waste your time doing things that aren't working.
Always standing, the arms alone can't pull hard enough so I use my body as a counterweight and I can only do that while standing.
What do you think is the reason for the improve in EQ ?
If I did 10 mins stretching for a week and didnt seen any BPFSL gains. Do I :
A. Increase it to 12.5 mins or 15 mins and measure again after 1 week ?
B. Continue for 1 month to make sure that I am truly not gaining before increase ?
C. What would you do ?
Also since you are stretching daily when do you take breaks or rest weeks ? Is it necessary at all to take breaks ?
Current
Length
15/11/14
BPFSL - 8 3/16 inch
15/11/14
BPEL - 7 10/ 16 inch
Girth
28/11/14
MEG 5.5 inch
Goals
NPEL 8.50 girth 6.00
EQ 10/10
Edging - 30 mins
Only doing Manual PE for devices are not an option at the moment.
Dear Stan, thanks for your precious info, time is gold, dont get me wrong pls can you share us your gains with time loop? On your page info says since 2012 your got 2.5 cam right? Me doing PE max 2 years no unsteady jut got thickness by doing wet jelq, so no length in spiti of stretching but not strong ones, how can I observe my pe session? measurements flacid bone pressed just before and after session or? How long time should I give it to and what s next can be for length? now length just 14 cm erect and you cant have variety sex position it pops out easily, seeing you do it for hobby something , measurements flaccid unsteady due to sensitive stimulation, how can I make sure taking right measurements? When stretching you grab skin or just glans and head? Grabbing just glans without skin hurts much
Thanks
After two weeks of my unit stubbornly resisting stretching for some reason, I finally made another small BPFSL gain: I can now reach a tad past the 3/4" mark. As a result EQ has taken a hit, but even though I can't get to 100% my "baseline" EQ has stayed pretty good this time.
Just before it happened I was able to measure my BPEL consistently at 15/16"
It's like I'm back to the gains pattern of the old days, just slower. BTW I think another reason why it doesn't really look much bigger is I've been gaining back some of the erection angle I had lost with the downward stretching.
What do you think is the reason for the improve in EQ ?
I think keeping a balanced pelvic floor is especially important here, so as much blood as possible can be pumped in "naturally" before involuntary kegels begin.
If I did 10 mins stretching for a week and didnt seen any BPFSL gains. Do I :
A. Increase it to 12.5 mins or 15 mins and measure again after 1 week ?
B. Continue for 1 month to make sure that I am truly not gaining before increase ?
C. What would you do ?
I'd wait at least two weeks, then I'd find a way to increase intensity rather than volume.
Also since you are stretching daily when do you take breaks or rest weeks ? Is it necessary at all to take breaks ?
I don't take scheduled rest days but I sometimes have to take short breaks because of small injuries to the glans. I still don't think rest days are necessary with stretching but they don't seem to hurt gains either.
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